Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[vinny41]

20 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

You deliberately post half a factoid / half the story in an attempt to distort the reality of what is happening....   Its not lying or telling a miss-truth....   Its just not telling the whole truth. 

 

EV Sales are Down

ICE Sales Are Down.

EV Sales are down less so than EV sales - the EV's side of the car industry is weathering this 'market downturn' better than the ICE side of the car industry.

 

Its not really that hard to understand is it ?

And yet

Year on Year sales figures for 2024 was a decrease of EV car sales by 23.46% compared to 2023

 

Total number of EV car sales 2023 89,967

Total number of EV car sales 2024 68,860

If EV sales were increasing why would the Chinese EV brands request to renegotiate EV 3.0 local production schedules it wouldn't make sense 

and the title of this thread is

Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

And yet

Year on Year sales figures for 2024 was a decrease of EV car sales by 23.46% compared to 2023

 

Total number of EV car sales 2023 89,967

Total number of EV car sales 2024 68,860

If EV sales were increasing why would the Chinese EV brands request to renegotiate EV 3.0 local production schedules it wouldn't make sense 

and the title of this thread is

Electric Vehicles in Thailand

 

I don't think you are very sharp vinny....   No one is denying that ALL car sales are down.

 

 

I'll keep it simple for you.

 

In 2023 you sold 80 Apples and 20 oranges (total fruit sales: 100)

In 2024 you sold 42 Apples and 18 oranges (total fruit sales: 60)

 

Proportions: 

In 2023 Apples sold 80% of the Market and Oranges 20% of the Market. 

In 2024 Apples sold 70% of the Market and Oranges 30% of the Market. 

 

Even though total fruit sales dropped - the market share of oranges increased from 20% to 30%

 

 

I took this example from my primary schools son's maths text book - I hope you can manage to keep up...    After all, it can be explained to you, but it can't be understood for you.

 

 

 

[KhunLA]

Not sure what there is to know, or care about.   The facts and future are ...

... worldwide sales are down, now, across the board

... ICEV are losing market share, and will continue to do so, year after year

... BEV, and all EV overall, will gain market share, and will continue year after year in the future.

... BEV and or next new energy version of non fossil fuel vehicles will make ICEV a thing of the past.  Only to be seen in collector's garages & museums.

 

If you have any legacy auto maker stock, sell now before you take a total loss 

[ExpatOilWorker]

35 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I don't think you are very sharp vinny....   No one is denying that ALL car sales are down.

 

 

I'll keep it simple for you.

 

In 2023 you sold 80 Apples and 20 oranges (total fruit sales: 100)

In 2024 you sold 42 Apples and 18 oranges (total fruit sales: 60)

 

Proportions: 

In 2023 Apples sold 80% of the Market and Oranges 20% of the Market. 

In 2024 Apples sold 70% of the Market and Oranges 30% of the Market. 

 

Even though total fruit sales dropped - the market share of oranges increased from 20% to 30%

 

 

I took this example from my primary schools son's maths text book - I hope you can manage to keep up...    After all, it can be explained to you, but it can't be understood for you.

 

 

 

Good lesson, but a lot of the oranges 🍊 sold since 2023 have turned out to be lemons 🍋. 

[vinny41]

23 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I don't think you are very sharp vinny....   No one is denying that ALL car sales are down.

 

 

I'll keep it simple for you.

 

In 2023 you sold 80 Apples and 20 oranges (total fruit sales: 100)

In 2024 you sold 42 Apples and 18 oranges (total fruit sales: 60)

 

Proportions: 

In 2023 Apples sold 80% of the Market and Oranges 20% of the Market. 

In 2024 Apples sold 70% of the Market and Oranges 30% of the Market. 

 

Even though total fruit sales dropped - the market share of oranges increased from 20% to 30%

 

 

I took this example from my primary schools son's maths text book - I hope you can manage to keep up...    After all, it can be explained to you, but it can't be understood for you.

 

 

 

All manufacturers their primary focus is numbers when a company builds a new factory the factory is assigned a target number of builds 

It would appear that the Board of Investment listened to the EV manufacturers concern  regarding weak local sales and that there would be an oversupply of vehicles if they were required to build 1.5 vehicles for every imported car sold between 2022 until 2023 that would be126,000 local builds + new imports for 2025 + imports for 2025 that aren't part of EV 3.0 or EV 3.5 subsidy such as geely as one brand example
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/motoring/2914031/thailand-extends-ev-production-deadlines

Bottom line  manufacturers focus on car sales numbers not market share

[Pib]

Just like in the "horse & buggy to motorized vehicles days" the transition from ICEV to EV will take decades---but it is happening with the typical ups-and-downs for most any technology trend.   The ups-and-downs will be affected by the economy, trade and real wars, people becoming use to the new technology, etc.   

 

EOW, Is that your great, great grandmother petting the horse in her new petrol vehicle?   😜😉

 

 

[vinny41]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I don't think you are very sharp vinny....   No one is denying that ALL car sales are down.

 

 

I'll keep it simple for you.

 

In 2023 you sold 80 Apples and 20 oranges (total fruit sales: 100)

In 2024 you sold 42 Apples and 18 oranges (total fruit sales: 60)

 

Proportions: 

In 2023 Apples sold 80% of the Market and Oranges 20% of the Market. 

In 2024 Apples sold 70% of the Market and Oranges 30% of the Market. 

 

Even though total fruit sales dropped - the market share of oranges increased from 20% to 30%

 

 

I took this example from my primary schools son's maths text book - I hope you can manage to keep up...    After all, it can be explained to you, but it can't be understood for you.

 

 

 

I did find your post amusing you state that you think i am not that sharp yet it you that have chosen to attack the poster rather than the post

Clearly that indicates you have lost the plot

[ExpatOilWorker]

1 hour ago, Pib said:

Just like in the "horse & buggy to motorized vehicles days" the transition from ICEV to EV will take decades---but it is happening with the typical ups-and-downs for most any technology trend.   The ups-and-downs will be affected by the economy, trade and real wars, people becoming use to the new technology, etc.   

 

EOW, Is that your great, great grandmother petting the horse in her new petrol vehicle?   😜😉

 

 

Nope, it is one of my seven sisters 😉. 

We are facing daunting future.

 

[JBChiangRai]

4 hours ago, carlyai said:

@JBChiangRai Re Charging Pod. Sealion 7 has 2; one is ventalated the other not.

We use Android Auto to stream the phone audio and I don't think the phone overheats. 🙂

Thanks anyway.

Sealion 1 Seal 0

 

1 hour ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Good lesson, but a lot of the oranges 🍊 sold since 2023 have turned out to be lemons 🍋. 

 

Sounds like sour grapes Oily

 

You’re a bit tart with your acidic comments. Run out of juice? Can’t we squeeze some more comment out of you or have we reached the pips, maybe you can comment something more pithy.