Thailand grants citizenship to half a million people – but not farangs

[WaveHunter]

Look what's BACK in stock!  I got it at Ocean Drugs in Jomtien.

[dj230]

5 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

Look what's BACK in stock!  I got it at Ocean Drugs in Jomtien.

how does this compare to the bayer testosterone enanthate? thats what i typically use

[WaveHunter]

10 minutes ago, dj230 said:

how does this compare to the bayer testosterone enanthate? thats what i typically use

Both are pharma-grade and pretty much the same except the oil in Rotex is a little heavier so can't inject SubQ with an insulin syringe; must use a 27ga needle and inject it IM.

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by WaveHunter

[dayo202]

1 hour ago, WaveHunter said:

Look what's BACK in stock!  I got it at Ocean Drugs in Jomtien.

How often to you take these pls ?

[WaveHunter]

20 hours ago, dayo202 said:

How often to you take these pls ?

Everybody's dosage is different.  Only a competent MD can really tell you that after they have done initial blood tests and titered the amount that it takes to raise your total testosterone levels to an acceptable level.  It takes about 3 months to be able to answer that question.

Edited March 22, 2023 by WaveHunter

[georgegeorgia]

On 3/19/2023 at 8:42 PM, WaveHunter said:

I know some are squeamish to self-inject but it's not a big deal.  You can use a tiny insulin syringe to inject into belly fat layer (called sub-Q injection) and you won't even feel it go in.

 

Absolutely no need to go into a clinic each time you need an injection.  That's just wasting money.

 

Pills and patches are highly problematic, not to mention far more expensive.

Can you inject into the glute ( bum cheek?

[WaveHunter]

16 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Can you inject into the glute ( bum cheek?

yes, preferred actually.

 

[amexpat]

Outer thigh even better. No nerve or vessels to hit. Be careful if you do glute. Google a little. 

 

[WaveHunter]

4 hours ago, amexpat said:

Outer thigh even better. No nerve or vessels to hit. Be careful if you do glute. Google a little. 

 

Outer upper quadrant is all you need to do for safe glute injection.  I've been doing this for 6 years without a hitch.  Just pre-swab with alcohol pad and let it dry first, then inject and swab again.  Alternate Left side on one day, the right, the next.

 

Outer thigh is how I started to do IM but sometimes got "bumps" from the oil which were sort of unsightly and a little uncomfortable, and once I got a black & blue mark from god-knows-what, so I switched to glutes.

 

Edited March 22, 2023 by WaveHunter

[amexpat]

14 hours ago, WaveHunter said:

Alternate Left side on one day, the right, the next.

 

Outer thigh is how I started to do IM but sometimes got "bumps" from the oil which were sort of unsightly and a little uncomfortable, and once I got a black & blue mark from god-knows-what, so I switched to glutes.

Interesting. I inject once every 3 weeks. I started with glutes but got spooked by the risk of permanent nerve damage if you do it wrong.

You seem to know what you are doing. I've done outer thigh for 4-5 years without a hitch. 

[TimeMachine]

Alternate shoulder every week for me and seem to get result. But I'd like to do in legs. It's just my feet and legs are sensitive to being touched. Difficult to explain but I just hate it when someone grabs my feet or legs. Is that a medical condition other than being a bit nutty?

[WaveHunter]

4 hours ago, amexpat said:

Interesting. I inject once every 3 weeks. I started with glutes but got spooked by the risk of permanent nerve damage if you do it wrong.

You seem to know what you are doing. I've done outer thigh for 4-5 years without a hitch. 

Everybody is different.  If it works for you, go for it, but IMO the danger of nerve damage is overblown.  As you can see in the attached diagram, the sciatic nerve is in the lower left quadrant so there's no danger if you stick to the upper right quadrant for injection (same for left side...upper left quadrant on alternate shot days). 

 

Anatomically I always aim for the Gluteus Minimus muscle.

 

 

And it goes without saying sterile technique is important since the only real danger of an IM injection is in creating an abscess  deep in the muscle tissue that could involve surgery to correct.  I had an abscess develop once that wasn't that serious and cleared on its own but for a week I couldn't sit without some minor pain.

 

The super safe and painless way to inject Test is simply in the belly (fat) with a tiny insulin syringe (29 or 31 gauge) which works fine except it takes to around 30 seconds to inject since Testosterone oil is pretty thick.  You literally feel nothing and it is just as effective as a deep IM injection (regardless of what a lot of people say)!

 

Still though it's good you point out the danger of sciatic nerve involvement because THAT can be real serious resulting in PERMANENT damage which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy!  I had a really bad fall on my mountain bike a few years ago that resulted in temporary inflammation of tissues surrounding the sciatic nerve and it was one of the worst pains I've ever felt until the inflammation subsided.  To imagine that pain being permanent...I think I'd shoot myself LOL!!

 

 

Edited March 23, 2023 by WaveHunter

[WaveHunter]

2 hours ago, TimeMachine said:

Alternate shoulder every week for me and seem to get result. But I'd like to do in legs. It's just my feet and legs are sensitive to being touched. Difficult to explain but I just hate it when someone grabs my feet or legs. Is that a medical condition other than being a bit nutty?

A bit nutty, I'd say.  Just kidding!  Everybody is different.  Whatever is most comfortable for YOU is best.

[WaveHunter]

On 5/7/2022 at 10:52 AM, WaveHunter said:

“Tim’s” Pharma (across from  LEK) does not stock it anymore unfortunately. I was in there the other week and they said they are only selling they are in single amps. 

"Tim's" Pharma is located where it always was but Tim's Bar is no more.  It is now called WIZARD BREWERY.  They also are now fully stocked with RotexMedica 20 amp vials of Testosterone Enanthate.  Price is 3,500 THB.  FYI, this is hands-down the BEST pharmacy in Pattaya without question!

 

 

Address on Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/o7qCzk5Jd7N7yJDJ8

 

Edited March 23, 2023 by WaveHunter

[TheTimeIsNow]

On 3/21/2023 at 2:49 PM, WaveHunter said:

Both are pharma-grade and pretty much the same except the oil in Rotex is a little heavier so can't inject SubQ with an insulin syringe; must use a 27ga needle and inject it IM.

 

Hi WaveHunter, thanks for share all that good info

 

Have you tried injecting the Rotex testosterone with the 29G needle? If so, where?

 

I say this because it is possible that if you get the injection in the thigh with 29G needle, you can inject IM

[georgegeorgia]

What is the needle size I need to inject 250 test, I have been paying a clinic  to do it but wish to do myself 

 

Someone ( another farang)  told me before size 16 but I can't find that size ,seems to be all 20's sizes at fascino 

Edited July 29, 2023 by georgegeorgia

[TheTimeIsNow]

I spent a whole morning asking around at various pharmacies in Pattaya for Testosterone Enentate or Testosterone Cypionate.
 

The result was that in most of them had Testoviron Depot (Bayer) 1 ampoule (prices from 250b to 290b) and some also had Rotexmedica Testosterone 20 ampoules (prices from 3500b to 4200b)
 

In a pharmacy on Soi Buakhao they had a catalog of Alpha-Pharma products, including Testobolin.

 

In another one on Second Road, they had a BD-PHARMA catalog, in which they showed me a 10ml vial (250mg/1ml) of enanthate.

 

I ended up buying the testosterone from Rotex at Tim's pharmacy for 3500b eventually because it was the most reliable but maybe try Alpha next time.

 

 

[TimeMachine]

I have been using pharma.  Comes with the scrtch code.  It has an affect on me.  I tried recently to switch to the cheaper cypionax, but felt it had no affect. Ill stick with alpha.  I prefer ampoules but got the small bottle at pharmacy near lek hotel on 2nd.

[TheTimeIsNow]

On 7/29/2023 at 9:38 PM, TheTimeIsNow said:

Hi WaveHunter, thanks for share all that good info

 

Have you tried injecting the Rotex testosterone with the 29G needle? If so, where?

 

I say this because it is possible that if you get the injection in the thigh with 29G needle, you can inject IM

I will answer myself.

 

I have just used my first ampule of Rotex and have been able to inject into the thigh IM with no problem, using an insulin syringe with an integrated 29G needle.

[TheTimeIsNow]

On 7/29/2023 at 9:49 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Someone ( another farang)  told me before size 16 but I can't find that size ,seems to be all 20's sizes at fascino 

I buy the insulin syringes with the integrated 29G needle in Dpharmacy Pattaya:

 

https://maps.app.goo.gl/rbeaE7Bed1wMBjJ78?g_st=ic

 

They also have other sizes.

[Dewdew]

Tim pharmacy telephone number is 0968783423 id line is @390xhhvu Thank you

[Dewdew]

Tim pharmacy telephone number is 0968783423 id line is @390xhhvu Thank you

[DaveTheRave]

Hello gentleman,

 

I may have joined this conversation a little late. I would love to know whether this is an active conversation?

 

Have been living between Pattaya and Bangkok for the last four years. Currently spending time in Bangkok.

 

I'd like to request some help if I may.

 

1. Do we know a pharmacy that currently has stock of Panpharma in or around Silom or Sukhumvit?

2. I have been perusing for sealed sterile vials. What I find on the local e-commerce sites (Laz, shopee) I cannot place much faith. Any of the memebes here have a good source for this?

3. Thai pharmacy Cypionax. This seems available at extremely competitive price of 800 baht per 10 ampule. Seems pharma grade product. Have any group members experienced?

 

As always, appreciate any future replies.

 

 

[bobbin]

2 hours ago, DaveTheRave said:

Hello gentleman,

 

I may have joined this conversation a little late. I would love to know whether this is an active conversation?

 

Have been living between Pattaya and Bangkok for the last four years. Currently spending time in Bangkok.

 

I'd like to request some help if I may.

 

 

3. Thai pharmacy Cypionax. This seems available at extremely competitive price of 800 baht per 10 ampule. Seems pharma grade product. Have any group members experienced?

 

As always, appreciate any future replies.

 

 

As above. Buy the Cypionax.. Quality product.

 

you seem a little light on product knowledge. Exogenous testosterone will replace your own in fairly quick order, so after a year or so, of you stop exogenous, you will have very liitle natural test available to you..

[DaveTheRave]

15 hours ago, bobbin said:

As above. Buy the Cypionax.. Quality product.

 

you seem a little light on product knowledge. Exogenous testosterone will replace your own in fairly quick order, so after a year or so, of you stop exogenous, you will have very liitle natural test available to you..

Hello Bobbin. Appreciate your swift reply and extatic to learn this thread is not redundant!

 

I'd like to think I am reasonably well versed.

 

My follow up question. 

 

Yourself having been around here for a few years, are you aware of public hospitals in Bangkok that support TRT?

 

I will be meeting with the Urologist at my normal private hospital, however keen to look at cost effective option where I might use social security.

 

As always, thank you in advance.

 

 

[georgegeorgia]

On 5/1/2024 at 9:52 PM, bobbin said:

As above. Buy the Cypionax.. Quality product.

 

you seem a little light on product knowledge. Exogenous testosterone will replace your own in fairly quick order, so after a year or so, of you stop exogenous, you will have very liitle natural test available to you..

Whats the difference?

I'm currently in test ethanate monthly 

You saying this cypionax lasts longer!

[DaveTheRave]

On 5/6/2024 at 2:14 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Whats the difference?

I'm currently in test ethanate monthly 

You saying this cypionax lasts longer!

 Dearest Georgia

 

The difference being, cypionate esther is having a one day longer half-life (8day) within your body than enanthate esther (7day).

 

Warmest regards,