Testosterone enanthate – in Pattaya or BKK

[Hummin]

22 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

I have to ask, with all due respect, even though you are not respecting others on this thread, why are you even reading this thread?

 

There is nothing "humiliating" about being on TRT, except perhaps to an ignorant person who doesn't understand what it is, or how it can help some people.

 

Testosterone is an over-the-counter medications here in Thailand and does NOT require a prescription to purchase.  Asking questions about who is stocking it is a perfectly valid question to post on this forum.

 

The cost of Testosterone through a hospital pharmacy is exorbitant so most who are under a doctor's care for TRT buy it at a regular pharmacy

 

Show some respect for others...and yourself by not making such inflammatory comments please.

I go to anti age center twice a year, do lab work when necessary, but buy my own medicine.

 

Hormones is the future for many soured depressed angry men above 50, who not even understand how it would or maybe could change their mood and life.

But again, not a quick long lasting fix if not having a healthy lifestyle, or want to do necessary changes if needed.

[JayBird]

If you buy 20 boxes of Bayer, giving you 20 Amps, you should be able to negotiate a better price.  I believe I was offered around 4200, which was the price when it came in a box of 20.

[Hummin]

12 minutes ago, JayBird said:

If you buy 20 boxes of Bayer, giving you 20 Amps, you should be able to negotiate a better price.  I believe I was offered around 4200, which was the price when it came in a box of 20.

2500,- comes to mind last time I bought 20 in 2018 i believe

[Alex2554]

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

I do not understand? It is legal to sell, and use

It is illegal to sell. All testosterone drugs you can buy in Thailand are fake. Exept made in Thailand Cypionax. But fake doesn't mean useless, they work as real brand name drugs.

BTW Rotexmedica doesn't exist after rebranding in 2019

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, Alex2554 said:

It is illegal to sell. All testosterone drugs you can buy in Thailand are fake. Exept made in Thailand Cypionax. But fake doesn't mean useless, they work as real brand name drugs.

BTW Rotexmedica doesn't exist after rebranding in 2019

Im positive you are wrong, I checked the rotexmedica I bought with the producer

 

 

[Sheryl]

7 hours ago, WaveHunter said:

I can tell you emphatically that Rotexmedica is a recognized and well respected German brand that even my Doctor in Chiang Mai suggested to me when Bayer became unavailable several years ago.

 

You make it sound like it is an underground lab which it is not.  The importer in Bangkok has nothing to hide and clearly print their full contact information including phone number on their packaging.

 

 

The most likely reason I think it may be unavailable is because, as you mentioned, the company has reorganized under a new name (PanPharma) and perhaps that's the reason for it to be temporarily off the shelves right now.

 

Of course, who really knows...when Bayer suddenly disappeared, nobody knew why, and to this day nobody really has a good explanation for that.  It just started to reappear again a couple of years, but now only sold in 1-vial packs for reasons I sure can't understand. 

 

BUT...for you to infer it is dangerous to use ROtexMedica simply because it is not registered in Thailand, which I saw you say in a post a couple of years ago, is really misleading and untrue.

 

Just saying...

 

 

 

I in no way inferred that there was anything wrong with the company and I most certainly did nto say or imply that their products are dangerous.

 

I simply stated, accurately, that this brand of testosterone is not currenlty listed in Mims and the company  (under either name) is not also listed in Mims.Which suggests not currently registered in Thailand.

 

As I also explained, such registration is costly to maintain. Companies may opt not to maintain registration (or a specific brand registration)  in Thailand because of the cost relative to he profits.

 

Nothing remotely to do with whether a company is reputable nor with whether a product is safe. But very relevant to whether a product can readily be found in Thai pharmacies.

 

 

[Captor]

10 hours ago, Sheryl said:

According to Mims the only brands of test. enanthate now on market are:

 

Depo-Test 250 (Unigen)

Testoviron Depot (Bayer)

 

Not only is their test product not listed, but Rotexmedica does not appear on the list of drug companies under either that name or its newer name of Panpharma.

 

Companies have to pay and go through red tape to maintain registration in Thailand, possibly that was the problem.

 

Is it possible to buy Nebido in Thailand? 1000 mg/4 ml?

 

[FriendlyFarang]

1 hour ago, Alex2554 said:

It is illegal to sell. All testosterone drugs you can buy in Thailand are fake. Exept made in Thailand Cypionax. But fake doesn't mean useless, they work as real brand name drugs.

BTW Rotexmedica doesn't exist after rebranding in 2019

It's legal to sell and there are 18 legally registered products containing testosterone: http://ndi.fda.moph.go.th/drug_info/index?brand=&name=testosterone&rctype=&drugno=

 

20 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

I simply stated, accurately, that this brand of testosterone is not currenlty listed in Mims and the company  (under either name) is not also listed in Mims.Which suggests not currently registered in Thailand.

MIMS (is this a private company?) is probably just not accurate.

Rotexmedica Testosterone is registered with Thai FDA: http://ndi.fda.moph.go.th/drug_detail/index/?ndrug=2&rctype=1C&rcno=4800157&lpvncd=&lcntpcd=&lcnno=&licensee_no=

 

3 minutes ago, Captor said:

Is it possible to buy Nebido in Thailand?

Doesn't seem to be registered with Thai FDA, but this doesn't mean that you can't buy it somewhere.

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, Captor said:

Is it possible to buy Nebido in Thailand?

The Famous Peera in Chiang Mai had stock last August when I passed through there.

 

Bayer 250 mg and the Nebido, as well, Rotexmedica 250mg

 

They told me they shipping to. Do not remember price on Nebido, but Bayer was 250,- baht ampulle, Rotexmedica I believe was 200;- but not sure, since I was just interested in Bayer.

 

 

[mxer90]

5 minutes ago, Captor said:

Is it possible to buy Nebido in Thailand?

 

I have seen it on the shelf at Tim's. It was a while back.  I was in there a few days ago but you cannot see most of the shelves in there at present due to a big plastic sheet, completely across the whole front of the shop due to the pandemic. I'll be popping in tomorrow on the way to the gym as I was gonna query them about Rotexmedica. I'll ask them about Nebido and report back.

 

[Captor]

2 minutes ago, mxer90 said:

 

I have seen it on the shelf at Tim's. It was a while back.  I was in there a few days ago but you cannot see most of the shelves in there at present due to a big plastic sheet, completely across the whole front of the shop due to the pandemic. I'll be popping in tomorrow on the way to the gym as I was gonna query them about Rotexmedica. I'll ask them about Nebido and report back.

 

Thanks, that would be nice. Especially 1000 mg/4 ml as that is what i use after a testis cancer treatment. Every 12 week.

[Kenneth White]

I know this is a little off subject. I was asked by customs if I had prescriptions for some medications I have been taking for years and bought online from the same online pharmacy. 5 mg Cialis for my BPH, Anavar for muscle atrophy do to a back injury, and testosterones capsules for my low T. I did have but customs said I need these prescriptions from a Thai doctor. I ask my cardiologist, here which I got this deer in the headlights look and was turned down. Its been almost a year since having these meds shipped and will need to reorder them soon. Any suggestion would be greatly apricated. 

[Sheryl]

10 hours ago, FriendlyFarang said:

 

 

MIMS (is this a private company?) is probably just not accurate.

Rotexmedica Testosterone is registered with Thai FDA: http://ndi.fda.moph.go.th/drug_detail/index/?ndrug=2&rctype=1C&rcno=4800157&lpvncd=&lcntpcd=&lcnno=&licensee_no=

 

 

MIMS is a listing of all drugs on the market  in a number of countries, including Thailand. It is pretty accurate.

 

When something goes off market, or its registration expires, it will be removed from the list.

 

 

[Sheryl]

11 hours ago, Captor said:

Is it possible to buy Nebido in Thailand? 1000 mg/4 ml?

 

 

It is here and registered. But like other Bayer products was hard to get for quite a while. I don't know the stock situation now.

[Captor]

8 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

It is here and registered. But like other Bayer products was hard to get for quite a while. I don't know the stock situation now.

Thanks Sheryl. Are there other brands mayby? The brand name is not important for me if it is the same substance.

[Sheryl]

4 hours ago, Kenneth White said:

I know this is a little off subject. I was asked by customs if I had prescriptions for some medications I have been taking for years and bought online from the same online pharmacy. 5 mg Cialis for my BPH, Anavar for muscle atrophy do to a back injury, and testosterones capsules for my low T. I did have but customs said I need these prescriptions from a Thai doctor. I ask my cardiologist, here which I got this deer in the headlights look and was turned down. Its been almost a year since having these meds shipped and will need to reorder them soon. Any suggestion would be greatly apricated. 

It is technically illegal to import any medication by post without an FDA import license, which you cannot get. Even if you had been abel to show a prescription, there might still have been an issue

 

In practice if small quantity and sent by regular post (never use a courier), customs will often allow it through provided not a controlled substance.  Cialis however  by Thai law is prescription only....and is a name customs officials would immediately recognize as such.

 

I would suggest you try again, this time without the Cialis and being sure to keep quantity small and sent by regular post.

 

There is a locally made Cialis equivalent in Thailand brand called Talafil which will cost less than Cialis brand.

 

You might also consider getting the testosterone caps here as well - no prescription needed.

 

Anavar is nto locall yavailable, so you would need to bring it in, but do so in small qualntitiy.

[FriendlyFarang]

4 hours ago, Kenneth White said:

5 mg Cialis for my BPH, Anavar for muscle atrophy do to a back injury, and testosterones capsules for my low T.

They are all available in Thailand, so you could just buy them here.

But Anavar is problematic because it's not available from proper brands, so you can't be 100% sure what you get.

Shouldn't testosterone also help against muscle atrophy, why do you need two steroids? Discuss with a doctor if just testosterone alone is enough.

[Sheryl]

Just now, Captor said:

Thanks Sheryl. Are there other brands mayby? The brand name is not important for me if it is the same substance.

 

Nebido appears to be the only injectable brand of estosterone undecanoate . There are some other  brands but they are oral tabs.

 

There are some clinics in Thailand specializing in TRT and it is possible they are bringing in brands/formulations not otherwise available - no harm in asking

 

e.g.  http://www.maximumclinic.com/contact-us/

and other posters may know of other clinics

 

 

[Captor]

17 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Nebido appears to be the only injectable brand of estosterone undecanoate . There are some other  brands but they are oral tabs.

 

There are some clinics in Thailand specializing in TRT and it is possible they are bringing in brands/formulations not otherwise available - no harm in asking

 

e.g.  http://www.maximumclinic.com/contact-us/

and other posters may know of other clinics

 

 

OK, I know there are other brands in Europe at least, for example Orifarm. Do you happen to know some clinic/clinics to contact in Bangkok?

[Captor]

1 minute ago, Captor said:

OK, I know there are other brands in Europe at least, for example Orifarm. Do you happen to know some clinic/clinics to contact in Bangkok?

Oops! Sorry I see now further down in the webpage that they have a clinic in BKK as well. Thank you very much, Sheryl!

[mxer90]

18 hours ago, Captor said:

Thanks, that would be nice. Especially 1000 mg/4 ml as that is what i use after a testis cancer treatment. Every 12 week.

 

Just been into Tim's. They have 1 box on the shelf. 8500b. As far as I know, Nebido only comes in 1000mgs/4ml.

 

[Kenneth White]

19 hours ago, FriendlyFarang said:

They are all available in Thailand, so you could just buy them here.

But Anavar is problematic because it's not available from proper brands, so you can't be 100% sure what you get.

Shouldn't testosterone also help against muscle atrophy, why do you need two steroids? Discuss with a doctor if just testosterone alone is enough.

The Testosterones caps and Cialis were prescribed by my family doctor, the Anavar by a neurologist. Both doctor are from the US. I did let both know of the others prescriptions. 

[Kenneth White]

19 hours ago, Sheryl said:

It is technically illegal to import any medication by post without an FDA import license, which you cannot get. Even if you had been abel to show a prescription, there might still have been an issue

 

In practice if small quantity and sent by regular post (never use a courier), customs will often allow it through provided not a controlled substance.  Cialis however  by Thai law is prescription only....and is a name customs officials would immediately recognize as such.

 

I would suggest you try again, this time without the Cialis and being sure to keep quantity small and sent by regular post.

 

There is a locally made Cialis equivalent in Thailand brand called Talafil which will cost less than Cialis brand.

 

You might also consider getting the testosterone caps here as well - no prescription needed.

 

Anavar is nto locall yavailable, so you would need to bring it in, but do so in small qualntitiy.

Sheryl, thanks for the reply. I have done a little research to find an online pharmacy here in Thailand so I will give that a try. Anavar I will look at some online sites in Europe like the UK and Germany maybe.  

[Inala]

On 5/7/2022 at 3:27 PM, Sheryl said:

Defintely a problem, at least temporairily, as your natural production of Testosterone may have been suppressed from  taking exogenous testosterone.

Thanks Sheryl.

[mokwit]

On 5/7/2022 at 10:31 PM, Alex2554 said:

It is illegal to sell. All testosterone drugs you can buy in Thailand are fake. Exept made in Thailand Cypionax. But fake doesn't mean useless, they work as real brand name drugs.

BTW Rotexmedica doesn't exist after rebranding in 2019

Nope. Don't confuse Testosterone and Thai FDA approved steroids with underground lab steroids. FDA approved steroids can be sold without a prescription but must be sold by the pharmacist and the sale recorded. Non FDA registered steroids are not legal to import/sell, but are not in the same category of illegality as drugs of addiction.

 

As for them being fake, I have talked to Bayer on more than one occasion about drugs they supply in Thailand. Brand name could be counterfeited but the genuine article is supplied here.

 

With Underground steroids you are really relying on the ethics and competence of the packager and the maker of the raw chemical they buy from, usually a Chinese company.

[Inala]

On 5/7/2022 at 3:32 PM, FriendlyFarang said:

Currently just one brand is sold out (and there are probably still some pharmacies that have some stock left), Bayer is still readily available.

Sure you can come off testosterone, you should then do a PCT though. The problem with the PCT is that the drugs are all controlled drugs in Thailand and you have to see a doctor for them, but that's not a big deal, just tell the doctor you want to come off testosterone and he will probably give them to you.

If you started with testosterone because you had low testosterone levels you will of course have low testosterone levels again, even after your testis start working again.

Thanks. But can I ask, what is a PCT?

[FriendlyFarang]

4 hours ago, Inala said:

Thanks. But can I ask, what is a PCT?

PCT = post cycle therapy

Here some random article about it: https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/post-cycle-therapy/

I think the most common drug used is clomid

[Captor]

19 hours ago, mxer90 said:

 

Just been into Tim's. They have 1 box on the shelf. 8500b. As far as I know, Nebido only comes in 1000mgs/4ml.

 

Dear mxer90,

Thanks for the effort and looking at Tim´s! Very good, so then I know it is possible. It is more than double price from Europe for the drug. The full price is about 4000 THB in Europe. But it is possible at least.

I checked with the Maximun clinic and they have it too and they want 15 000 THB for administrate Nebido every 10-12 weeks. They are also doing a lot of bloodtests (33) every time that I actually don´t want. One time/year is enough I think. So they are expensive. Are they the only options there are in BKK? Is it not possible to get this done in every big government hospital? Maybe Sheryl know about that? 

[mxer90]

1 hour ago, Captor said:

Dear mxer90,

Thanks for the effort and looking at Tim´s! Very good, so then I know it is possible. It is more than double price from Europe for the drug. The full price is about 4000 THB in Europe. But it is possible at least.

I checked with the Maximun clinic and they have it too and they want 15 000 THB for administrate Nebido every 10-12 weeks. They are also doing a lot of bloodtests (33) every time that I actually don´t want. One time/year is enough I think. So they are expensive. Are they the only options there are in BKK? Is it not possible to get this done in every big government hospital? Maybe Sheryl know about that? 

I'm only in Pattaya 99% of the time, so don't know about BKK.

 

If you can purchase the product I'm sure any clinic will give you the shot for a few hundred baht without doing tests. I know a few people that have done that around Pattaya.

 

[Captor]

9 hours ago, mxer90 said:

I'm only in Pattaya 99% of the time, so don't know about BKK.

 

If you can purchase the product I'm sure any clinic will give you the shot for a few hundred baht without doing tests. I know a few people that have done that around Pattaya.

 

OK, that sounds good. Thank you very much ????