fondue zoo Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 17 hours ago, snoop1130 said: which still have problems with their engines like having no engines.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartyMarty Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 11 hours ago, jerrymahoney said: Re the Russian oligarchs and their yachts and properties all over the world: Russian oligarchs are business oligarchs of the former Soviet republics who rapidly accumulated wealth in the 1990s via the Russian privatisation that followed the dissolution of the Soviet Union. The failing Soviet state left the ownership of state assets contested, which allowed for informal deals with former USSR officials (mostly in Russia and Ukraine) as a means to acquire state property. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs You left out the bit about none of them getting filthy rich without the consent of Putin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 8 hours ago, BangkokReady said: The transparency and accountability that so many demand from politicians and police would likely lead to the same being expected of every citizen. This makes it unlikely to actually happen. Oh please. We are not in positions of leadership, nor have we taken an oath to protect the public. Stop the free passes. Stop the nonsense. Stop the nonstop malfeasance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, SmartyMarty said: You left out the bit about none of them getting filthy rich without the consent of Putin. The text of Wikipedia is copyrighted ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Orinoco said: What a bunch of jokers. Sad part is they are all on the gravy train one way or another. shameful the lot of them, on all sides. Agreed. What is really shameful is that the scallywaggery is not recognized as a universal practice the world over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) **************************************************** Edited June 3, 2022 by zzaa09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Oh please. We are not in positions of leadership, nor have we taken an oath to protect the public. Stop the free passes. Stop the nonsense. Stop the nonstop malfeasance. Well the topic heading speaks of "allegedly widespread corruption" but I guess it's Damn the Torpedoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 6 hours ago, hotchilli said: The caveat from a deformation case... "allegedly" Surprised that they don't attach the usual Lese Majeste clause to such claims and accusations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said: Well the topic heading speaks of "allegedly widespread corruption" but I guess it's Damn the Torpedoes. You mean from the engineless Submarines....nooooooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 It's all a terrible Misunderstanding !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 4 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Oh please. We are not in positions of leadership, nor have we taken an oath to protect the public. Stop the free passes. Stop the nonsense. Stop the nonstop malfeasance. You seriously think politicians, government officers and police are going to stop being corrupt but somehow allow the everyday corruption that permeates all levels of Thai society? The words "dream" and "on" come to mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiyaTH Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: You seriously think politicians, government officers and police are going to stop being corrupt but somehow allow the everyday corruption that permeates all levels of Thai society? The words "dream" and "on" come to mind... There are a lot of dreamers out there, the majority is. People in the west even think it is different in those countries, it is not, just a higher level game with refinement of backdoor politics, lobby, blackmail aka obviously corruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 11 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: You mean from the engineless Submarines....nooooooo. I get it.. A Thai submarine joke. Ha-Ha-Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, Excel said: You clearly don't live in Thailand and/or know anything about Thailand as you would know the answer to your own question. Can I suggest you do a bit of research into Thai laws and customs together perhaps with reading this forums guidelines ? All that should put you in the picture. I had to do a little Google search to find it but the first of several such references came in JULY 2021: The current power regime has a constituency of one and don't (s)ee why it should take a Yank to explain it. https://aseannow.com/topic/1224907-thailand’s-vaccine-director-apologises-for-‘slow-inadequate’-vaccine-rollout-promises-to-join-covax/?do=findComment&comment=16677292 Edited June 4, 2022 by jerrymahoney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Surely a misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 7:43 AM, BangkokReady said: The transparency and accountability that so many demand from politicians and police would likely lead to the same being expected of every citizen. This makes it unlikely to actually happen. Surely it could be limited to larger accounts and deposits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 13 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said: There are a lot of dreamers out there, the majority is. People in the west even think it is different in those countries, it is not, just a higher level game with refinement of backdoor politics, lobby, blackmail aka obviously corruption. Imagine the world if everyone comprehended this statement - especially from Occidental circles, whom obviously are the most deluded as to their instinctive manner of all things corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 3:48 AM, smedly said: and quite frankly Pheu Thai would do no different Not true. There are significant differences under the current regime compared to the elected Pheu Thai governments. First, the permanent institutions, such as the courts, NACC and military etc were actively opposed to the elected governments and did all they could to retard their ability to implement policy - up to and including prosecuting false charges and illegally dismissing members of the government from their roles. There was constant scrutiny. Prayuth does not have these concerns. Secondly, there was much much greater freedom of the press and freedom for the public to both investigate and voice any and all concerns about the governments actions or proposed actions. Prayuth does not have these concerns. Thirdly, the elected Pheu Thai governments had to exist under far more democratic constitutions that imposed far stricter electoral processes making the governments accountable to the public at regular intervals via national elections. Prayuth does not have these concerns. You are comparing mountains to molehills and somehow reaching the absurd conclusion that they are of the same order of magnitude. How silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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