KhunLA Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just got back from updating our Tetanus shots, damn expensive. ฿600 / 300 each, expensive, since last time was ฿50, before that, free ???? If in USA, ฿600 / 300 wouldn't even cover your deductible for GP visit, IF you had insurance & IF GP visits were even covered by said insurance. No need to ask why we prefer TH over USA. Get to live < 5 kms from surf. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Berkshire said: It's not just real estate that's expensive, everything is. Just about all consumer goods have to be shipped in. I remember on my first visit to Hawaii, many many years ago, being disappointed that a pineapple, bought out in the fields, was the same price as buying one in NY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymike100 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:50 PM, StayinThailand2much said: On the plus-side, your country cares about you if you're abroad and in need of help. Mine gives a rat's a**, but cares only about the world's refugees, rather than their own citizens. I'm going out on a limb here, are you referring to the UK, by any chance?? If so totally agree! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, 1FinickyOne said: I remember on my first visit to Hawaii, many many years ago, being disappointed that a pineapple, bought out in the fields, was the same price as buying one in NY... Damn, you got 'faranged' in the USA, hit with tourist price ... ???? I used to buy crabmeat in Memphis area, nicely picked over, mostly lump from Thailand $15 USD, that 22 yrs ago. Last time I bought at Central Plaza (bkk) think it was ฿600 ???? Quality lump & claw meat, not frozen bits. Some things just ain't right. Actually ballpark price for quality fresh lump crabmeat everywhere here. I like reading tourist reports about: "OMG, we drank fresh coconut juice from coconuts, and only ฿50" ???? I've never paid more than ฿15 for a coconut. Probably 20 now. Though found for ฿10 recently at canal side market in Krung Thep. Even the wife was surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1FinickyOne Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Damn, you got 'faranged' in the USA, hit with tourist price ... ???? I used to buy crabmeat in Memphis area, nicely picked over, mostly lump from Thailand $15 USD, that 22 yrs ago. Last time I bought at Central Plaza (bkk) think it was ฿600 ???? Quality lump & claw meat, not frozen bits. Some things just ain't right. Actually ballpark price for quality fresh lump crabmeat everywhere here. I like reading tourist reports about: "OMG, we drank fresh coconut juice from coconuts, and only ฿50" ???? I've never paid more than ฿15 for a coconut. Probably 20 now. Though found for ฿10 recently at canal side market in Krung Thep. Even the wife was surprised. Last coconut milk I had was from a tree in my garden... of course if you figure in the cost of land and the month expense of live-in gardeners, it was probably expensive... though barely a fraction as there is plenty else growing here... a bird poops and 3 months later we have papaya... where can I find a Philly cheesesteak tree? I am beginning to suspect they don't grow on trees?? Edited June 10, 2022 by 1FinickyOne 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 17 hours ago, KhunLA said: Just got back from updating our Tetanus shots, damn expensive. ฿600 / 300 each, expensive, since last time was ฿50, before that, free ???? If in USA, ฿600 / 300 wouldn't even cover your deductible for GP visit, IF you had insurance & IF GP visits were even covered by said insurance. Here in the USA I pay absolutely zero (but I am 65) for such things all visits covered as well as surgery which I just had on my knee to remove a longtime tumor my Orthopedic surgeon thought was a fatty tumor turned out to be something else which thankfully turned out to be benign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said: I remember on my first visit to Hawaii, many many years ago, being disappointed that a pineapple, bought out in the fields, was the same price as buying one in NY... You probably bought from the Dole Pineapple shack which would be the most touristy price you could pay. If instead like Thailand you went to a farmers market it would of course be very low Or heck even a Target dept store like this https://www.target.com/p/pineapple-each/-/A-15013634#lnk=sametab Would have TODAY gotten you a fresh whole pineapple for 76 baht/$2.19 USD Edited June 10, 2022 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, mania said: Here in the USA I pay absolutely zero (but I am 65) for such things all visits covered as well as surgery which I just had on my knee to remove a longtime tumor my Orthopedic surgeon thought was a fatty tumor turned out to be something else which thankfully turned out to be benign Is that insurance (HMO ? ) supplied by your employer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjintx Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 8:48 AM, Jingthing said: Panama has tropical areas, has affordable areas outside of Panama City, and is out of the storm belt. I have this image that Panama is pretty dangerous (crime), is that not the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 If I was in the USA, Medicare Plan B cost about $170 Does not cover Tetanus shot, unless required due to an injury. Add on Plan D, may cover it, that $10 more a month So to cover a < $10 vaccine, I need $180 monthly premium ... ???? Not sure that covers the Doctor's visit cost at 100 % Been on SS retirement for 18 months, would have paid $3240, so about ฿110k for 18 months of coverage, and this is the first time, I think, that I've need, voluntary at that, to see a doc since. Medicare would cost ฿73,440 a year for decent coverage. Probably the cheapest medical insurance in the USA, and very limited for your choice of places that accept it. Not your top docs or hospitals. NO THANKS Been here 22 yrs, do the math, I can't get that sick. Of course if you or family history has health issues, then good to carry insurance ... MAYBE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I feel like starting a new thread: "Why Do You Choose to Live in Thailand, Rather than Tasmania? You must have a good reason!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, tjintx said: I have this image that Panama is pretty dangerous (crime), is that not the case? About average, compared worldwide. Ballpark idea: https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Teavee Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Have only read the topic title not previous replies (will go back & read now) but for me (as a Brit) Hawaii was simply not an option as I cannot get a Visa to live there (I probably could by investing a shed load of money or marrying an American but I'm not going to do either of those things). As a Brit my choice was probably more like "Why Thailand & Not Spain/Portugal" & the simple answer is after spending 12 years working in Singapore, I got to love the SEA (South East Asia) lifestyle, so when I retired I moved to Thailand. Only regret I have is not establishing EU residency before BREXIT as that would have meant any future move (Portugal is my "Plan B") would have been much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Cost. Next silly question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 hours ago, mania said: You probably bought from the Dole Pineapple shack which would be the most touristy price you could pay. If instead like Thailand you went to a farmers market it would of course be very low Or heck even a Target dept store like this https://www.target.com/p/pineapple-each/-/A-15013634#lnk=sametab Would have TODAY gotten you a fresh whole pineapple for 76 baht/$2.19 USD It was probably early 1980s and from a farmer in his field... a stand not a store.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said: Have only read the topic title not previous replies (will go back & read now) but for me (as a Brit) Hawaii was simply not an option as I cannot get a Visa to live there (I probably could by investing a shed load of money or marrying an American but I'm not going to do either of those things). As a Brit my choice was probably more like "Why Thailand & Not Spain/Portugal" & the simple answer is after spending 12 years working in Singapore, I got to love the SEA (South East Asia) lifestyle, so when I retired I moved to Thailand. Only regret I have is not establishing EU residency before BREXIT as that would have meant any future move (Portugal is my "Plan B") would have been much easier. I had Portuguese residency, it's not at all easy to retain it if you're based elsewhere. I lost mine before Brexit, as I didn't reside there, and they also changed it from a certificate to an ID card, and that had an expiring grace period to switch to as well. Edited June 11, 2022 by chalawaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 20 hours ago, mikeymike100 said: I'm going out on a limb here, are you referring to the UK, by any chance?? If so totally agree! At least UK still pay pensions overseas, good luck with that if one decamps from Australia. Yes it's possible, but not always so, and there are expensive hoops to jump even if you squeeze it out of them. As the social security pots dry up with declining populations, it will only get harder everywhere for everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Teavee Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, chalawaan said: I had Portuguese residency, it's not at all easy to retain it if you're based elsewhere. I lost mine before Brexit, as I didn't reside there, and they also changed it from a certificate to an ID card, and that had an expiring grace period to switch to as well. I thought I read that you only needed to spend 2 weeks in-country to retain your residency so I figured a 2 week holiday in the Algarve wasn't too hard to do ???? Beautiful country, awesome golf, steaks & wine and I'm sure that's where I would have retired to if I hadn't ended up working in Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColeBOzbourne Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Hawaii doesn't have any snakes, so why would anyone want to live there? Thailand has some very cool snakes. Long live herpetology! ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, KhunLA said: Is that insurance (HMO ? ) supplied by your employer ? No I am retired Here in the USA you have all kinds of benefits based solely on your income If just SS like me for example you get free part B&D Medicare They do not count your residence which I own outright just your income Kinda nice actually When I first moved back from Thailand I tried to buy Health Insurance thinking I needed it They told me sorry your income is too low its free...I said well ok ???? Also since I moved back my property tax dropped when I was 60 & will drop again when I'm 70 crazy cheap now considering where live...I pay less in fact than my yearly home insurance What can I say except god bless America I guess hahah At first I felt odd about it then I realized they give countries like Israel billions per year in cash so if They want to pay my part B & D go for it ???? Edited June 11, 2022 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, mania said: No I am retired Here in the USA you have all kinds of benefits based solely on your income If just SS like me for example you get free part B&D Medicare They do not count your residence which I own outright just your income Kinda nice actually When I first moved back from Thailand I tried to buy Health Insurance thinking I needed it They told me sorry your income is too low its free...I said well ok ???? Also since I moved back my property tax dropped when I was 60 & will drop again when I'm 70 crazy cheap now considering where live...I pay less in fact than my yearly home insurance What can I say except god bless America I guess hahah At first I felt odd about it then I realized they give countries like Israel billions per year in cash so if They want to pay my part B & D go for it ???? What state do you live in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:32 PM, Jingthing said: As an expat being American is unusually burdensome. Must still file U.S. taxes (I think the only other country that does that is Eritrea). Must file treasury forms for certain bank account levels with ruinous fines for non compliance. Must deal with hostile to expats financial institutions because of xenophobic "security" based laws. As has always been the case in past years, you remain well-informed about things that matter in 2022. This is true. But, I just wonder... How much longer can you keep on keeping on. Many more years, is my dearest wish. Take care, and remember to exercise, at least once every other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre0720 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 You must have a good reason! Do I ever...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Because Hawaii is part of the USA. What sane person would want to live there during these times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 10 hours ago, KarenBravo said: Because Hawaii is part of the USA. What sane person would want to live there during these times? Possibly folks who love perfect weather & temperatures Folks who love clean air & water Folks who love beauty of nature unspoiled by sewage dumping into the ocean etc Folks who love to swim in clear oceans & hike thru beautiful tropical rain forests that have no snakes or any other deadly creatures As for the USA part Yes but do not forget many of us were also in Hawaii for generations before the USA/Falangs overthrew the Hawaiian Monarchy to steal a strategic port called Pearl Harbor & then give Hawaiians the choice<sic> of either becoming a State with all the benefits or becoming a territory But even now Hawaiians & Falangs coexist in Hawaii/USA peacefully knowing they do have a supportive government especially as shown in recent times of crisis..The same government that also sent Thailand millions of real vaccines Lastly many prefer living in Hawaii & not living in a Junta ruled dictatorship for now with all the loss of benefits that came with that for both Thai's & Falangs alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, mania said: Possibly folks who love perfect weather & temperatures Folks who love clean air & water Folks who love beauty of nature unspoiled by sewage dumping into the ocean etc Folks who love to swim in clear oceans & hike thru beautiful tropical rain forests that have no snakes or any other deadly creatures As for the USA part Yes but do not forget many of us were also in Hawaii for generations before the USA/Falangs overthrew the Hawaiian Monarchy to steal a strategic port called Pearl Harbor & then give Hawaiians the choice<sic> of either becoming a State with all the benefits or becoming a territory But even now Hawaiians & Falangs coexist in Hawaii/USA peacefully knowing they do have a supportive government especially as shown in recent times of crisis..The same government that also sent Thailand millions of real vaccines Lastly many prefer living in Hawaii & not living in a Junta ruled dictatorship for now with all the loss of benefits that came with that for both Thai's & Falangs alike Please keep in mind that there is no L in Farang. Just as there is no L in the word guava. Thank you. Edited June 13, 2022 by GammaGlobulin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: Please keep in mind that there is no L in Farang. Thank you. Actually all R's & L's are reversed when spoken 555 Warren becomes Wallen Farang becomes Falang Truthfully it is kon Dtaang Chaat คนต่างชาติ Edited June 13, 2022 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, mania said: Actually all R's & L's are reversed when spoken 555 I very much doubt that this is linguistically provable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, mania said: Actually all R's & L's are reversed when spoken 555 Warren becomes Wallen Farang becomes Falang Truthfully it is kon Dtaang Chaat คนต่างชาติ Oh.... You are referring to Lobbut Kennedy? Malilyn Monloe & Lobbut Kennedy in Hawaii....? The trilled R in Thai is NOT an L. But Malilyn looks scrumptious in her tight fitting gown, nonetheless. (Also, Lobbut seems, in this photo...to be....Nothing But a Hound dog....) Edited June 13, 2022 by GammaGlobulin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 hours ago, mania said: Possibly folks who love perfect weather & temperatures Folks who love clean air & water Folks who love beauty of nature unspoiled by sewage dumping into the ocean etc Folks who love to swim in clear oceans & hike thru beautiful tropical rain forests that have no snakes or any other deadly creatures As for the USA part Yes but do not forget many of us were also in Hawaii for generations before the USA/Falangs overthrew the Hawaiian Monarchy to steal a strategic port called Pearl Harbor & then give Hawaiians the choice<sic> of either becoming a State with all the benefits or becoming a territory But even now Hawaiians & Falangs coexist in Hawaii/USA peacefully knowing they do have a supportive government especially as shown in recent times of crisis..The same government that also sent Thailand millions of real vaccines Lastly many prefer living in Hawaii & not living in a Junta ruled dictatorship for now with all the loss of benefits that came with that for both Thai's & Falangs alike Well, good for you. I've lived in Thailand under army control and under democratic control. For the person in the street, there is no noticeable difference. If everyone wanted to live in Hawaii more than where they live now....imagine the hell-hole Hawaii would become. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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