What is and isn’t allowed as Thailand legalizes pot

[digibum]

On 6/9/2022 at 9:07 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Starting to get very annoying that no official spells out in capital letters exactly what is an extract. Makes a complete mockery of what should be a monumental day for Thailand.

Maybe they’re hoping that people have a basic reading comprehension level.  
 

The law itself is very clear.  
 

All parts of the cannabis plant are no longer considered a Category 5 narcotic.  
 

The only thing that was left as a Category 5 narcotic is cannabis extracts with a THC content of greater than 0.2%.  
 

Everyone is looking for a gotcha and there is none.  

[Mr Meeseeks]

On 6/9/2022 at 11:52 AM, CraigInBangkok said:

Well two of the leading Thai pot activists are selling high THC flower from their shops from today. Pretty sure they are clear on the law

Again I refer to the Thai PM's comment from June 8th where he says flowers are still considered a narcotic. 

 

So the PM is not clear on the law? 

[CraigInBangkok]

1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Again I refer to the Thai PM's comment from June 8th where he says flowers are still considered a narcotic. 

 

So the PM is not clear on the law? 

It would seem that way ... Yes

[kimamey]

On 6/9/2022 at 11:01 AM, Mr Meeseeks said:

It's a week old.

 

What are you confused about? The law is perfectly clear. 

 

Less than 0.2% THC content; stems, leaves, etc. used for medicinal and other purposes = legal.

 

More than 0.2% THC content including buds, flowers and products thereof used to get high are classified as narcotics = illegal.

I've no real interest in this from the point of view of use so I've not looked closely at the rilke but are the rules regarding THC content for businesses only or individuals as well? Businesses can test for THC content levels but is that possible for individuals?

[chalawaan]

Prostitution isn't allowed.

Consuming porn isn't allowed.

Helmetless road use isn't allowed.

Public drinking at odd hours and on religious days isn't allowed.

Corruption isn't allowed.

But everyone seems to act as if these laws don't exist.

I can't see recreational weed use being any better enforced than the above, especially as the formerly fearful curious get their freak on.

Everything is better on weed, food, sex, telly, music, other drugs, e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. It can be eaten, vaped, smoked, drunk, or even abstained from! It's not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but at least the mindless criminalization has finally ended. Now for all the rest! Our bodies our choice.

Edited June 11, 2022 by chalawaan

[chalawaan]

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Again I refer to the Thai PM's comment from June 8th where he says flowers are still considered a narcotic. 

 

So the PM is not clear on the law? 

I see the law in this specific case, as a conservative face-saving tactic. 

How else can they do a near century of severe anti-weed law, then on a certain day, all is magically well in the conservative hive mind with the devil's lettuce! 

Only a complete fool would assume the Thai public are going to give a rats Razoo what the THC levels are, and all this posting about tourists about to be ripped off with hemp leaf or fake THC drinks is equally ignorant, and the sort of thing we've come to expect from the narco-clueless who seem only too willing to spread their ignorant commentary like fertilizer. 

Any Thai weed- related business who tries to keep that charade going will soon either go out of business, or at best see sales of ersatz novelty edibles plummet when the newly weed-curious quickly wise up.

If anything, this place will be a weed Mecca in a matter of years, and the grey-market economic benefits will flow on to millions of Thai working class, who now have a better way to legally relax than by destroying their liver and carving up mates in a drunken rage.

[chalawaan]

On 6/9/2022 at 3:51 PM, Nickelbeer said:

It appears that anything that gets you high is still illegal. I did notice something about pot being taken off the “narcotics” list. Don’t know if that impacts sentencing or legality in any way, Comments?

 

They're releasing all convicted and cancelling future court dates. So that's a pretty clear indication it's not an offence anymore, even if they still classify it as a controlled narcotic. 

Many legal medical drugs are controlled narcotics, that doesn't make using them a criminal offence. 

[kimamey]

On 6/9/2022 at 1:09 PM, Lacessit said:

Clear as mud to me, how the hell does anyone growing pot for personal use tell whether they are growing <0.2% or >0.2%? Will everyone have to buy a gas chromatograph as well?

I was wondering that

[digibum]

11 hours ago, chalawaan said:

I see the law in this specific case, as a conservative face-saving tactic. 

Actually, it’s because Thailand, the US, and most other countries are parties to UN anti-drug treaties.  
 

Even in the US, they won’t legalize at the federal level because they would have to ignore those treaties and the second they do that, any country that is an exporter of drugs calls them out for being a hypocrite and just starts shipping heroin, meth, cocaine, etc and tells the US to pound sand if they complain.

 

BTW, if you’re asking how the US gets away with it, the individual states didn’t sign those agreements.  The federal government did.  
 

So, if California quits enforcing cannabis laws, and the federal government keeps it illegal but looks the other way, they’re still, technically, in compliance.   
 

Back when Thailand first said they were legalizing cannabis in 2018, they explicitly said they will not violate those agreements.  
 

They don’t want meth from Myanmar flooding the local market because they’re seen as violating these agreements.  
 

So they say they’re legalizing “medicinal use” but they let everyone self-diagnose.  
 

That technically complies with those agreements while effectively legalizing recreational use.  
 

It should also be noted that when Thailand first announced legalizing cannabis, they also declared that they refuse to recognize patents on strains of cannabis for 5 years.  
 

That’s because Thailand feels slighted that they did what the US pressured them to do under Nixon and now the US is making huge advancements in growing and medical research while Thailand is treating cannabis as a Category 5 narcotic.  
 

Thailand feels like it should be the leader because cannabis has been a part of Thai culture for several hundred years until Nixon’s war on drugs forced Thailand to crack down on drugs.  
 

Yes, there are ultra-conservative elements in Thailand that would like to see everything from tobacco to cannabis made illegal but they’re an insignificant minority.  
 

if you look at everything Thailand has said and done, it’s 100% clear that they are trying to adhere to their international agreements while also making it clear that they won’t be cheated out of becoming a major player in this huge market.   

[digibum]

On 6/9/2022 at 9:31 AM, connda said:

So I can finally use the plant for insomnia.  It's too much of a pain in the butt to attempt to buy the oil, plus the oil is extremely expensive compared to other cannabis oil sold globally.
So back to the good old fashion way of using the herb.
Anyway, I'm glad it will be decriminalized and can now actually be used for medical purposes.

Wish you much luck on your afflictions.  

Edited June 11, 2022 by digibum

[digibum]

4 hours ago, kimamey said:

I was wondering that

 

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[digibum]

On 6/9/2022 at 2:41 PM, jvs said:

You need to start with a plant that has naturally high CBD and low THC.

 

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Compassion

[garyk]

.2%  what is this a joke?  Sounds like a way to lure idiots into Thailand.

[Damrongsak]

Here you go.  < 0.2" THC, comes with a lighter. 

 

  

[LomSak27]

10 hours ago, digibum said:

That’s because Thailand feels slighted that they did what the US pressured them to do under Nixon and now the US is making huge advancements in growing and medical research while Thailand is treating cannabis as a Category 5 narcotic.  

Marijuana was made illegal in the 1930's as part of Pibuls New Thailand programs. Nixons pressure was on exporting it,  but mainly concerned opiates coming out of the golden triangle. Why Thailand would feel slighted is a mystery, as is the 'huge advancements' the US made. They did a good business tolerating somewhat while at the same time using it to shakedown/extort money from clueless tourists for forty years now. A win win scenario for them.