Pattaya Bar Girls are Lazy

[RichardColeman]

Problem I have with bar girls - or rather ex bar girls - is that all my friends here are all hooked up with them and know absolutely no idea about them. All of them have other men, have been hooked up with other men whilst they were away, are with them but married to others - friend of mine just paid off an entire bar girls debt on the assumption she is now divorced from the french husband she is still living with - idiot. I have friends here that have absolutely no idea that their boo is bi-sexual.

 

I like most of us have made these errors in the past - we probably all did until we learned the truth about a lot of them, that's probably why most of us - like myself - enjoy the some times and then look outside of the bars for a wife. 

 

 

[Kenny202]

18 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Problem I have with bar girls - or rather ex bar girls - is that all my friends here are all hooked up with them and know absolutely no idea about them. All of them have other men, have been hooked up with other men whilst they were away, are with them but married to others - friend of mine just paid off an entire bar girls debt on the assumption she is now divorced from the french husband she is still living with - idiot. I have friends here that have absolutely no idea that their boo is bi-sexual.

 

I like most of us have made these errors in the past - we probably all did until we learned the truth about a lot of them, that's probably why most of us - like myself - enjoy the some times and then look outside of the bars for a wife. 

 

 

Yeah I had an old bar owner here tell me in his estimation 95% of bar girl relationships fail. I been here 10 years and in my experience with many friends and acquaintances I would say I no of none that were ultimately successful. And it usually included a lot of heartache, havoc and expense along the way. And without fail even the ones that stole houses and the blokes life savings...the girls all seem to end up penniless back in a village or usually back to the bar. 

[it is what it is]

 

would you sleep with multiple partners who are in the main considerably older and not in great physical shape, who you can't understand and if you did would bore you, for the equivalent of 30k baht a month? it's a soul destroying occupation in a soul destroying industry. you can't blame them for not being the most motivated of workers.

Edited June 21, 2022 by it is what it is

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Problem I have with bar girls - or rather ex bar girls - is that all my friends here are all hooked up with them and know absolutely no idea about them. All of them have other men, have been hooked up with other men whilst they were away, are with them but married to others - friend of mine just paid off an entire bar girls debt on the assumption she is now divorced from the french husband she is still living with - idiot. I have friends here that have absolutely no idea that their boo is bi-sexual.

 

I like most of us have made these errors in the past - we probably all did until we learned the truth about a lot of them, that's probably why most of us - like myself - enjoy the some times and then look outside of the bars for a wife. 

 

 

Sounds like you having a blast with gossip and a exiting life keeping track of everyone.

 

Of course yours is different? 

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

Life is full of twists and turns, like a rotating door, Next.....

[BritManToo]

7 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I like most of us have made these errors in the past - we probably all did until we learned the truth about a lot of them, that's probably why most of us - like myself - enjoy the some times and then look outside of the bars for a wife. 

Another error is thinking your girl is different .................

Oops @Hummin beat me to it!

Edited June 21, 2022 by BritManToo

[BritManToo]

7 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

Yeah I had an old bar owner here tell me in his estimation 95% of bar girl relationships fail. I been here 10 years and in my experience with many friends and acquaintances I would say I no of none that were ultimately successful. And it usually included a lot of heartache, havoc and expense along the way. And without fail even the ones that stole houses and the blokes life savings...the girls all seem to end up penniless back in a village or usually back to the bar. 

In my estimation all relationships with women fail, unless one of you is lucky enough to die first.

As for the women always ending up broke ........ how much money has Amber Heard left?

 

Ms. Z. Gabor used to say,

"I'm a wonderful housekeeper, every time I divorce a man I keep his house"

Edited June 21, 2022 by BritManToo

[RichardColeman]

6 hours ago, Hummin said:

Sounds like you having a blast with gossip and a exiting life keeping track of everyone.

 

Of course yours is different? 

NO, not really, my wife is a kindergarten teacher by profession, I think that they all confide in her as she is 'different' from them. If anything it is a curse to know more about your friends other half 'omissions' than not - how do you even start to explain to a  friend your lady is a Tom ! 

 

 

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

how do you even start to explain to a  friend your lady is a Tom ! 

Why would you even try?

Let guys make their own choices, no need for you to stick your oar in.

[RichardColeman]

28 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Another error is thinking your girl is different .................

Oops @Hummin beat me to it!

Who can ever be 100% sure  about  a Thai woman ? But I'd like to think that being at uni and doing doctorates, then teaching until I met her - her certificates and awards in 3 thick binders from working in schools pretty much covers the after period until I met her. As for after marrying her, I think taking care of our daughter 24/7/365 would make any 'outside interests' a little hard. 

 

Reminds me, I must get her to rediscover her 'army style' teaching uniform for some role play

 

[RichardColeman]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Why would you even try?

Let guys make their own choices, no need for you to stick your oar in.

I wouldn't. It's their business. My life with my wife is boring and less eventful. 

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Who can ever be 100% sure  about  a Thai woman ? But I'd like to think that being at uni and doing doctorates, then teaching until I met her - her certificates and awards in 3 thick binders from working in schools pretty much covers the after period until I met her.

Yeah, used to think my Brit wife (high school teacher) was different.

That mistake cost me 660,000 pounds.

 

Having sampled both (schoolteachers and prostitutes), I've concluded prostitutes are more fun and better value for money.

Edited June 21, 2022 by BritManToo

[RichardColeman]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Yeah, used to think my Brit wife (high school teacher) was different.

That mistake cost me 660,000 pounds.

 

Having sampled both (schoolteachers and prostitutes), I've concluded prostitutes are more fun and better value for money.

My first Thai wife - non bargirl - worked on the Bangkok BTS system. When we married we had some head honcho come to our wedding and make a speech.

 

Two years later 'I' divorced her for destroying our business, defrauding the UK tax man, putting £30,000 on bank credit cards and loans against the business and writing a letter to someone offering the business (I was still paying the bank for) for free to someone if she failed to pay back £3,000 she had borrowed from them within a month ! I very nearly lost my house. So, yes, I know many 'good' thai ladies are 'very bad' thai ladies. Certainly a hooker would have been cheaper during that time

 

 

 

 

[PremiumLane]

16 hours ago, Lemsta69 said:

so I guess that means you pay at least double or triple your bill in tips to all Thai service staff that you interact with to compensate for the slave wages that they get paid? 

 

ps. this is no country for moral men.

It means I wouldn't go out of my way to try to exploit people, don't know why that concept is so hard to understand? And yeah, I tip well. 

 

I also support unions and any actions to help working class people get a better deal. 

[Excel]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

My first Thai wife - non bargirl - worked on the Bangkok BTS system. When we married we had some head honcho come to our wedding and make a speech.

 

Two years later 'I' divorced her for destroying our business, defrauding the UK tax man, putting £30,000 on bank credit cards and loans against the business and writing a letter to someone offering the business (I was still paying the bank for) for free to someone if she failed to pay back £3,000 she had borrowed from them within a month ! I very nearly lost my house. So, yes, I know many 'good' thai ladies are 'very bad' thai ladies. Certainly a hooker would have been cheaper during that time

 

 

 

 

Your ex wife was an amateur then compared to Alex Albon's Thai Mother. Now when it comes to being "bad" she certainly was one of them.

[Danderman123]

20 hours ago, starky said:

Don't know where old mate got his figures but top shelf are making a stack more than 30k a month. That's peanuts. Heaps of  girls out there making that just in ladies drinks and that's before the barfining an everything else that comes with it. Not to mention the muppets will be back soon all the major sponsors and minor sponsors sending hookers money from foreign lands so they can book a spot on their return. Then you got your 2 week millionaires paying weeelllll over the odds I could go on and on but I think I've made my point.

Except that many ladies are lazy and don’t want drinks. Happy to get salary, even if they get money deducted for not making quota.

[Danderman123]

20 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There is one little detail which you don't mention: What's the alternative?

For many girls the alternative is to get f@$#54 by their Thai bf who is possibly drunk and just comes from another girl.

If the girls have the alternative of a drunk Thai guy who wants money or drunk farangs who pay money then the decision is not so difficult.

 

Both.

[Danderman123]

20 hours ago, Lemsta69 said:

I'm guessing maybe that @Danderman123is newish to the scene and still trying to get his head around it. that or he's been here a long time but is just a bit too into the scene. I used to be like that until I got bored with the backstory.

 

go to bar, dlink a dlink, buy a few lady dlinks, get dlunk and have a big ol' sanuk. if they want a shoulder to cry on then they can pay you! ????

Since I am traveling with my bargirlfriend, and she is a recruiter, I hear about lazy ladies all day. Who is on Yabba, who is fighting with their Tom,  lots of stories. As always, if this topic bores you, you can read elsewhere.

[Danderman123]

19 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

It is not exactly like that. And not making any judgements here as not to sure if I was a good looking girl with little hope living in poverty if I wouldn't be doing the same thing. There is plenty of work for them in factories etc and that's what normal girls do. Can earn up to 15-20k per month with OT. Very, very small percentage of Isaan girls become hookers and the ones that do are no different from the hookers back home. Lazy, broken. Attraction of what seems like an easy glamorous life and easy money. They aren't generally good human beings toiling away and being exploited to send money back to their families. Normal deal is they leave a kid in the village....mum or grandma looks after the kid and girls sends back around 2000-3000 baht a month for the kids upkeep....which the grandparents normally p$$ up the wall on gambling or grog. The rest the girl p$$es up the wall herself. Everyone happy. The kid grows up with abandonment issues, broken in some way and thus the cycle continues

Yep.

 

i know an older bargirl who brought her 16 year old daughter to a bar in Pattaya just to learn the business (not to work). So, if she is abandoned by her Thai boyfriend after spitting out a kid, she knows what to do.

[Danderman123]

18 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Some girls do, some go with Toms.  The reality is, sadly, that many Thai women expect it and believe it to not only be normal but what they deserve.  Many also cannot get out once they are in as the guy will kill them.

Bargirls generally crave young Thai men.

 

Even marginal earners will blow their salary on boys in karaoke bars.

 

The ladies will go to karaoke bars after their bars close.

 

The boys will go to karaoke bars after their elderly Farang customer goes to sleep.

Edited June 22, 2022 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

14 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Problem I have with bar girls - or rather ex bar girls - is that all my friends here are all hooked up with them and know absolutely no idea about them. All of them have other men, have been hooked up with other men whilst they were away, are with them but married to others - friend of mine just paid off an entire bar girls debt on the assumption she is now divorced from the french husband she is still living with - idiot. I have friends here that have absolutely no idea that their boo is bi-sexual.

 

I like most of us have made these errors in the past - we probably all did until we learned the truth about a lot of them, that's probably why most of us - like myself - enjoy the some times and then look outside of the bars for a wife. 

 

 

I generally know the situation with ladies I go with for a long time, ie stay with me for more than a few days. I don’t sponsor them, just pay for time with me. If they go home to a Thai boyfriend, I don’t care.

 

I draw the line at ladies with Farang boyfriends, I don’t go with them.

 

I am completely  clueless on the status of my current bargirlfriend. She works long hours, maybe has other customers or boyfriends, but as long as shows up on the appointed day, all good for me.

[starky]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Except that many ladies are lazy and don’t want drinks. Happy to get salary, even if they get money deducted for not making quota.

Maybe in crappy beer bars out soi bukhao. I been around a while mate and your talking about gogo girls. The ones I know are earners they sure af wouldn't be doing it for 20k a month lol. 

 But then again I crave and chase the grouse not some lazy, 2 bob hooker that can't even be bothered grafting.

  There's girls who have been making 3000 baht a short time for years now off mug punters don't tell me they making 20k a month when they pull that down in a few days lol. The girls you knock around may be  bit different though.

Edited June 22, 2022 by starky

[Hummin]

8 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Another error is thinking your girl is different .................

Oops @Hummin beat me to it!

 

 

The majority of the girls are different from what is highlighted here is my experience.

[Lemsta69]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Since I am traveling with my bargirlfriend, and she is a recruiter, I hear about lazy ladies all day. Who is on Yabba, who is fighting with their Tom,  lots of stories. As always, if this topic bores you, you can read elsewhere.

sounds like you've been staying into the abyss for too long. or maybe you're CS as we say in Australia.

 

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche 

[Lemsta69]

6 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

It means I wouldn't go out of my way to try to exploit people, don't know why that concept is so hard to understand? And yeah, I tip well. 

 

I also support unions and any actions to help working class people get a better deal. 

keep telling yourself that champ. whatever gets you through the day ????

[Danderman123]

35 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

 

The majority of the girls are different from what is highlighted here is my experience.

If you are talking about bargirls, the sample size I am accessing is fairly substantial.

[SAFETY FIRST]

It's been that way for years. 

 

Are you new to town? 

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 6/21/2022 at 12:43 PM, Danderman123 said:

A lady could earn 30,000+ baht in a month,

I know of GoGo dancers getting 100k per month. 

 

Some of these girls have 4, 5 or 6 sponsors sending money every month. 

 

[Hummin]

34 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

If you are talking about bargirls, the sample size I am accessing is fairly substantial.

I still believe from my experience who I hanged out with and travelled with, and also had relationship with when staying with them, was better than most general characteristics given here. 
 

However, I wouldn’t  leave any of them behind, because I believe if my gf had to leave me in Pattaya or any place for 3 months or more, and I had nothing to do, I would basically fail to. Especially given I was broke and my only safety line was a wage connection with an older lady somewhere in the world. 
 

most girls is good girls, but either they are broken down before they enter the business, they are for sure broken down after depending on each girl psychological health, and of course especially if they start drinking and use other substances. 
 

I just cant help it, I do sympathies with the girls more than ony punter who claim they where  deleted over by one. I really do not know why, but my experiences have been different from many of these generally terms or descriptions of how bad the girls really is.

 

I have seen, heard and experienced some of the same stories as most here, but I didnt fall for them, or got sucked in to them I guess. 
 

If you follow simple rules and just leave before its to late, because we know when something is bad, and we know when we can expect trouble down the line, but still most continue to disaster. Why they willingly continue on a bad path when they obviously know whats going to hit them in the end? Thats the good question 
 

And the result you read here. If a bar manage to give them proper salary, a proper place to work, with proper decent customers and inspire them to do a good job, then you would see another type of girls working. 
 

Tell me about the bars and what you see? Empty bars with no decent paying customers, and how do you think that impact the girls inspiration to do a good job? To many <deleted> bars and bad working conditions and you see the result of it.
 

Of course the best girls and the smartest girls will always have better options, either working in better bars, or getting out of the bars quicker with sponsors and the full package, or marry a decent punter who take good care of them and they take good care of them in return. Of course between the lines, there is so many variations. 
 

Britman do not separate between bg or ordinary girls, any girl or woman is the same for him

Edited June 22, 2022 by Hummin

[PremiumLane]

1 hour ago, Lemsta69 said:

keep telling yourself that champ. whatever gets you through the day ????

Now that's what I call projection 

Edited June 22, 2022 by PremiumLane