10 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

The only way some people will ever stop wearing masks is if there was the threat of jail for wearing one.......Many Thais love wearing the stupid things....

 

And from today forward there will be a farang not wearing a mask in 7-11 any more......I need to set a example for all the maskers....

 

Why does it bother you so much what other people do?

Are you really that fickle?

 

4 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

As opposed to those broader circles that profit big time from repeated and promoted official narratives. 

Right, wrong or indifferent......the inherent nature requires a balance. 

Now here's one person who's got his hands on stuff that's way over the legal 0.2% limit!

2 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

Why does it bother you so much what other people do?

Are you really that fickle?

 

Fickle? You, Sir, are a very polite person.

 

Especially as he compared all Thai 7-11 staff as equivalent to Nazis just because they told him to put a mask on.

 

42 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

The only way some people will ever stop wearing masks is if there was the threat of jail for wearing one.......Many Thais love wearing the stupid things....

 

And from today forward there will be a farang not wearing a mask in 7-11 any more......I need to set a example for all the maskers....

What example will that be? How to upset people in 1 easy lesson?

 

Be my guest and if you are not allowed in 7/11 without a mask please remember that the staff are only doing their job and it is private property and not a  government owned shop.

 

If it were me, I would take a mask with me and if they want me to wear it, then I will. I certainly wouldn't throw my dummy out of the pram over it.

 

After all they have a job to do and AFAIAC until they are told differently I will abide by what they say. After all, they have to wear the damn things all the time.

Edited June 25, 20224 yr by billd766
Bad spelling

3 hours ago, redwood1 said:

The only way some people will ever stop wearing masks is if there was the threat of jail for wearing one.......Many Thais love wearing the stupid things....

 

And from today forward there will be a farang not wearing a mask in 7-11 any more......I need to set a example for all the maskers....

Why is it such a problem for you to see others wearing a mask. It obviously gets your knickers in a twist, but why?

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

What example will that be? How to upset people in 1 easy lesson?

 

Be my guest and if you are not allowed in 7/11 without a mask please remember that the staff are only doing their job and it is private property and not a  government owned shop.

 

If it were me, I would take a mask with me and if they want me to wear it, then I will. I certainly wouldn't throw my dummy out of the pram over it.

 

After all they have a job to do and AFAIAC until they are told differently I will abide by what they say. After all, they have to wear the damn things all the time.

I have visited and been served in two 7/11's today where I did not wear a mask and the staff were. 

 

A number of nationalities came into the store, some with and some without.  Nothing was said about masks.

 

I believe that shop staff will continue to wear masks as a mark of respect/show willing  etc to their customers while I will decide if I wish to patronize an establishment that insists on my wearing one. 

 

The answer is I will NOT wear a mask in a shop that demands them, I will just shop elsewhere!

 

it is now OUR choice whether to wear and the shop's choice whether to bar us!

9 hours ago, James105 said:

If you could just reveal the name of the alleged restaurant where this alleged event happened then when this alleged video is released onto social media this will of course corroborate your story.

I am really so sorry for your sake that @Walker88's decision not to name the restaurant in question has come as such a bitter disappointment to you. Had he acceded to your "request" he would, of course, have laid himself open to a complaint of defamation from the restaurant in question, which, in turn, could have resulted in him being prosecuted in a criminal court and, if found guilty, sentenced to a stretch in the Bangkok Hilton.

 

Assuming that you are, indeed, aware of the fact that defamation is treated as a criminal, rather than civil, matter in LOS, I can only infer that your insistence on him naming the restaurant in question is motivated by an overwhelming desire on your part to see him ending up in the Bangkok Hilton where you feel that he rightly belongs.

 

On 6/24/2022 at 1:03 AM, ezzra said:

Let's hope it will not lead to more infection as much as i hate those facial rags but in many countries there are thousands who are still get infected on a daily bases so much so that it clogs hospital beds and keep key personals from going to work, and i'm not talking about third world countries...

Not really true, here in the UK it is largely forgotten about, it doesn't make the news, no Hospital is overrun, we are more worried about having to take a loan to pay for a tank of fuel !

 

1 hour ago, DezLez said:

I have visited and been served in two 7/11's today where I did not wear a mask and the staff were. 

 

A number of nationalities came into the store, some with and some without.  Nothing was said about masks.

 

I believe that shop staff will continue to wear masks as a mark of respect/show willing  etc to their customers while I will decide if I wish to patronize an establishment that insists on my wearing one. 

 

The answer is I will NOT wear a mask in a shop that demands them, I will just shop elsewhere!

 

it is now OUR choice whether to wear and the shop's choice whether to bar us!

That is your choice,  but it isn't mine.

 

You're correct it is the choice of the shop owner, but not the choice of the employees.

 

Whilst I won't wear a mask, I will carry one and if I am asked to put it on, I am quite happy to do so. As for shopping elsewhere, why would I bother when I am in the shop I want, mask or no mask.

 

The staff that work there don't make the rules, they just carry on doing their job.

15 minutes ago, billd766 said:

You're correct it is the choice of the shop owner, but not the choice of the employees.

I totally agree with you regarding the staff. 

 

It is nothing to do with the staff, they are following their management's instructions/guidelines.

 

My only point is that given the choice of two shops/establishments I will choose the non mask enforcement shop/establishment. 

 

It is up to the customers to choose to enter with/without or for the owner's to bar the potential customer's entry without the mask!

 

Each to their own!

I now no longer carry a mask and will not enter a place that demands the mask!

 

My choice

Edited June 25, 20224 yr by DezLez

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Why is it such a problem for you to see others wearing a mask. It obviously gets your knickers in a twist, but why?

Because it is a natural human desire to see the faces and emotions of other people.

These masks are destroying the whole young generation, it breaks my heart every <deleted> time I see a young baby with a mask on their face. I really got measurable heart problems since this mask-wearing started, got severely depressed as well.

 

You can see in Japans society since longer time already what mask-wearing does to people. It makes them distanced from each other. Physically, but more important emotionally.

1 minute ago, FarAway said:

Because it is a natural human desire to see the faces and emotions of other people.

These masks are destroying the whole young generation, it breaks my heart every <deleted> time I see a young baby with a mask on their face. I really got measurable heart problems since this mask-wearing started, got severely depressed as well.

 

You can see in Japans society since longer time already what mask-wearing does to people. It makes them distanced from each other. Physically, but more important emotionally.

Go on believing that rhetoric, and then tell me how the text messaging and e-mailing discussions people have daily as well as speaking to call centers or your insurance company by phone is any different.....try again.

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Go on believing that rhetoric, and then tell me how the text messaging and e-mailing discussions people have daily as well as speaking to call centers or your insurance company by phone is any different.....try again.

Huh? I criticize the digitalization of humanity as well. But how does one bad fact make another bad fact better?

1 hour ago, FarAway said:

Huh? I criticize the digitalization of humanity as well. But how does one bad fact make another bad fact better?

It is equivocal isn't it.  Your attempt at degrading the nature of humanities interactions over mask wearing is a false narrative.  No degradation has occurred, new ways of communication have been learned and thus society moves forward in a different direction.  After all are friends truly friends, or just acquaintances whom you have personal contact with even if you can not see there faces, what if you were blind.  Words make a big difference as well as how discussions are held.    Enjoy your evening. 

I went out and about this afternoon in the Thonglor area.  Without exception every single Thai I saw was wearing a mask.  I only saw three people who weren't and they were all farangs.  Honestly when all the locals are not comfortable removing their mask then you should show consideration in their company.  The three people I saw came across as very selfish.

You are in Asia, not the good old US of A. Show some cultural consideration, you can take your mask off as soon as you are in your car / at home, when you are around others who are wearing masks please just do the same, it won't kill you.  Eventually they will be dropped by the populace when they feel it is right.

41 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

I went out and about this afternoon in the Thonglor area.  Without exception every single Thai I saw was wearing a mask.  I only saw three people who weren't and they were all farangs.  Honestly when all the locals are not comfortable removing their mask then you should show consideration in their company.  The three people I saw came across as very selfish.

You are in Asia, not the good old US of A. Show some cultural consideration, you can take your mask off as soon as you are in your car / at home, when you are around others who are wearing masks please just do the same, it won't kill you.  Eventually they will be dropped by the populace when they feel it is right.

Boy what a sad sad day it was when they said masks are no longer required.......

 

Many Thais wear gold,am I showing disrespect if I don't wear gold?

How about if I don't eat fried bugs?

 

All you the law is the law guys should be first in line to uphold the law...

 

And the law says masks are not required any more....

On 6/24/2022 at 2:22 AM, connda said:

Finally.  I'll be one of the 10% who will actually take it off.  My guess is that the majority of Thais will voluntarily continue to wear one pretty much forever.

Yeah, I was in a shopping mall today with no mask on. 75% of people didn't seem to care, 20% gave me what I would call a surprised look and I would say about 5% gave me a dirty look. Nobody said anything though.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

I went out and about this afternoon in the Thonglor area.  Without exception every single Thai I saw was wearing a mask.  I only saw three people who weren't and they were all farangs.  Honestly when all the locals are not comfortable removing their mask then you should show consideration in their company.  The three people I saw came across as very selfish.

You are in Asia, not the good old US of A. Show some cultural consideration, you can take your mask off as soon as you are in your car / at home, when you are around others who are wearing masks please just do the same, it won't kill you.  Eventually they will be dropped by the populace when they feel it is right.

Usually I tend to agree with this type of viewpoint but clearly the vast majority of Thais are just wearing it out of conformism and nobody wants to stand out, it's just not in their culture.

 

In this case it makes sense to let us farangs spearhead the mask dropping thing.

13 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

Boy what a sad sad day it was when they said masks are no longer required.......

 

Many Thais wear gold,am I showing disrespect if I don't wear gold?

How about if I don't eat fried bugs?

 

What a ridiculous comparison.  

 

Quote

All you the law is the law guys should be first in line to uphold the law...

 

And the law says masks are not required any more....

Another ridiculous attempt - if the law said you cannot wear a mask then valid point.  But an absence of a law isn't the same thing.  There is no law to say masks are not required - there is just no law / mandate to say they are.

Really, you must try harder.

Anyway, you carry on, it's good to have warriors around - you guys are amusing.

Today I went to 7-11 and other grocery stores without a mask, no problems.

But the funny thing is that it was mostly foreigners and a few Thais who were without masks. Most Thai people keep using them. It's their choice, though.

19 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

I went out and about this afternoon in the Thonglor area.  Without exception every single Thai I saw was wearing a mask.  I only saw three people who weren't and they were all farangs.  Honestly when all the locals are not comfortable removing their mask then you should show consideration in their company.  The three people I saw came across as very selfish.

You are in Asia, not the good old US of A. Show some cultural consideration, you can take your mask off as soon as you are in your car / at home, when you are around others who are wearing masks please just do the same, it won't kill you.  Eventually they will be dropped by the populace when they feel it is right.

  Regarding the "cultural consideration" comment, a reminder that it was the Thai government that told us we aren't required to wear masks.  

 

  It's become an individual choice - as it should be - and no one should be castigated for making whatever individual choice in the matter one makes.  Those are the conditions created by the current leaders of the Thai populace so claiming it's some sort of cultural affront when one makes a choice with which you disagree is misguided, IMO.

 

  

20 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

pretty much 99% of people I know have had covid.

 

A handful had the sniffles and a tickly throat, the rest nothing.

 

Why are hospital beds being clogged ?

 

I stopped wearing masks months ago except for places like supermarkets/7-11's/hardware stores etc etc.

Lucky you - it put me in hospital (back in 2020 before the vaccines came out).

 

The vaccines definitely seem to help as my identical twin got Covid last month, even though he's vaccinated and had the booster, and he was ill, but not enough to need a trip to hospital. Admittedly he was stuck in a hotel used to isolate people with Covid until two days after he stopped testing positive (rules of the country he was working in at the time) so he got plenty of rest while he was ill...

 

If enough people are vaccinated, the mask mandates are probably no longer necessary. The question is are enough people vaccinated in Thailand?

31 minutes ago, bkk_mike said:

".....If enough people are vaccinated, the mask mandates are probably no longer necessary. The question is are enough people vaccinated in Thailand?

It's likely that those people that wanted to get vaccinated have been and most of the ones that haven't been vaccinated have already had COVID at least once

10 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

it won't kill you

Are you sure?

Good morning......Another mask-less day ahead....Life is good....

 

I might pop into 7-11 for some mask-free morning coffee...

Edited June 26, 20224 yr by redwood1

23 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

I'm presuming that in the tourist areas masks are the rarity but here in Samutprakarn, it's just like somebody forgot to pass on the memo.

What puzzles me is why so many folks believe that when the mask mandate is cancelled, the whole Thai population will tear off their masks, and dance around wildly singing 'I'm Free, I'm Free' like little Roger Daltreys. 

Maybe, just maybe, they will make up their own minds, they don't seem to have found mask wearing to be the burden the Western cry-babies did. 

 

 

11 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is equivocal isn't it.  Your attempt at degrading the nature of humanities interactions over mask wearing is a false narrative.  No degradation has occurred, new ways of communication have been learned and thus society moves forward in a different direction.  After all are friends truly friends, or just acquaintances whom you have personal contact with even if you can not see there faces, what if you were blind.  

What if you were deaf...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/aug/20/deaf-people-mask-wearing-lipreading

 

"When the pandemic is controlled, and the masks come off, I hope hearing people remember how much of the world revolves around community and communicating. I hope they still consider us, who deserve to be heard."

Edited June 26, 20224 yr by James105

23 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2022/June/PDF/mask-mandates-increase-covid-death-rate-pdf.pdf

Yeah right ????????. And my name is mother Teresa