jak2002003 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 'The bills and laws they are opposed to are progressive measures that representatives of the council say are against Islamic teachings and inappropriate'. So what.......? Last time I checked this was not a Muslim country. No one is forcing Muslims to smoke weed or have same sex marriage. They have the freedom to live their lives as they believe their religion demands. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: Do Mulsims believe in democracy and freedom? Do Christians believe in democracy and freedom? Your question, like mine, depends on a dumb generalization. The difference between us is that I know it's dumb. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickelbeer Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Malaysia and Indonesia are both open. Maybe they should consider moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) I look forward to the day when all Religions and cults and religions that pretend they are not a religion. All become extinct. They are all just dinosaurs. The sooner the better. Then mankind can move forward, at a timely pace. instead of the two steps forward and three back, like at present. 12:56, beer o'clock. Good day . Edited June 26, 2022 by Orinoco 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 21 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: I worked in Saudi for 3 years, never had a cold winter. Really? I was 5 years in Saudi and at times we had ground frost. I assume you was not on the east coast. I was working for Aramco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Religion and politics should never be mixed. Politics is an essential roster of how to run a country by executing the will of the people (who voted for the politicians running the country - in some cases). Irrespective of whatever religion you address, remain the endless discussion over who has the bigger imaginary friend. The result is war and hatred and if a religion requires to kill any non-believers, then you know, that this belief is for the uneducated and lost souls ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, Sydebolle said: Religion and politics should never be mixed. Politics is an essential roster of how to run a country by executing the will of the people (who voted for the politicians running the country - in some cases). Irrespective of whatever religion you address, remain the endless discussion over who has the bigger imaginary friend. The result is war and hatred and if a religion requires to kill any non-believers, then you know, that this belief is for the uneducated and lost souls ...... Religion and politics cannot be separated. They are one of the same as both are human instruments developed to exert power and influence over the masses by any means possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 13 hours ago, seajae said: trouble is islamic teachings are based on hundreds of year old teachings and they refuse to modernize apart from how they wage war on people, they do not like anyone refusing to do what they want them too, time for the govt to tell them to stick their teachings where the sun dont shine Pretty much the same as Christianity then 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Excel Posted June 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Photoguy21 said: Pretty much the same as Christianity then Like all religions 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, Excel said: Religion and politics cannot be separated. They are one of the same as both are human instruments developed to exert power and influence over the masses by any means possible. Very much to my personal regret - you are right, hence I referred to "should be" but in reality there is no "should" ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Nickelbeer said: Malaysia and Indonesia are both open. Maybe they should consider moving. All they are doing is expressing an opinion which is perfectly within their rights as Thai citizens. Do practising Thai Buddhists advocate drinking alchohol, taking drugs and so on - NO, actually contary to the practice of Buddhism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 22 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: I worked in Saudi for 3 years, never had a cold winter. It snowed once when I worked in Tabuk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickelbeer Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, simple1 said: All they are doing is expressing an opinion which is perfectly within their rights as Thai citizens. Do practising Thai Buddhists advocate drinking alcohol, taking drugs and so on - NO, actually contrary to the practice of Buddhism. I consider their opinions right on a level with the usual Islamic terrorism. They live in a Buddhist country which is tolerant of everything. If they can’t get with the program, they should leave. No tolerance for religious fundamentalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it is what it is Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nickelbeer said: I consider their opinions right on a level with the usual Islamic terrorism. They live in a Buddhist country which is tolerant of everything. If they can’t get with the program, they should leave. No tolerance for religious fundamentalists. They live in a Buddhist country which is tolerant of everything. nonsense, no toleration of; free speech, free media, use of class A drug use, lese majeste, i could go on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Sydebolle said: Religion and politics should never be mixed. Politics is an essential roster of how to run a country by executing the will of the people (who voted for the politicians running the country - in some cases). Irrespective of whatever religion you address, remain the endless discussion over who has the bigger imaginary friend. The result is war and hatred and if a religion requires to kill any non-believers, then you know, that this belief is for the uneducated and lost souls ...... All same. What Political person any place not declare a religion? The lost souls need know to choose side in the war even to kill the killers ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Nickelbeer said: I consider their opinions right on a level with the usual Islamic terrorism. They live in a Buddhist country which is tolerant of everything. If they can’t get with the program, they should leave. No tolerance for religious fundamentalists. Since when does expressing a POV equate to religious fundamentalism - there are zero threats articulated. The Islamic Council is comprised of Thai Muslim citizens, repeat they are Thai citizens who have equal rights under the Thai Constitution. together with the Thai Muslim representative appointed to advise the monarchy. Accordingly it is you, a non citizen, who's expressing a fundamentalist attitude.. FYI... https://budapest.thaiembassy.org/en/content/muslims-in-thailand-under-royal-benevolence?cate=5d6634e815e39c439c000039 Edited June 26, 2022 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickelbeer Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, simple1 said: Since when does expressing a POV equate to religious fundamentalism - there are zero threats articulated. The Islamic Council is comprised of Thai Muslim citizens, repeat they are Thai citizens who have equal rights under the Thai Constitution. together with the Thai Muslim representative appointed to advise the monarchy. Accordingly it is you, a non citizen, who's expressing a fundamentalist attitude.. FYI... https://budapest.thaiembassy.org/en/content/muslims-in-thailand-under-royal-benevolence?cate=5d6634e815e39c439c000039 You simply want to argue. Your opinion is worthless and I won’t be answering any more of your drivel. My point stands and you can go and bother some OTHER poster. NO tolerance for ISLAM…….EVER!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Islam has a serious PR problem around the world. Part of it is the unwillingness on the part of it's leaders to speak out and openly condemn the extremist madness. Another part of it seems to come from the utter joylessness of most contemporary Islamic cultures. Too many prohibitions, and not enough allowance for joys and pleasures makes Orod a very dull boy indeed. So, they are simply not in a position to ask for much. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Islam has a serious PR problem around the world. Part of it is the unwillingness on the part of it's leaders to speak out and openly condemn the extremist madness. Another part of it seems to come from the utter joylessness of most contemporary Islamic cultures. Too many prohibitions, and not enough allowance for joys and pleasures makes Orod a very dull boy indeed. So, they are simply not in a position to ask for much. Do you think the Christian church has a better PR reputation? In Australia, the royal commission into child abuse has done huge reputational damage to the churches. It's not limited to Australia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 23 hours ago, Anant72 said: Child marriage being akin to pedophilia it should be prosecuted as such. Their founder married 6 year old Aisha to had full sex with her when she was 9! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickelbeer Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Do you think the Christian church has a better PR reputation? In Australia, the royal commission into child abuse has done huge reputational damage to the churches. It's not limited to Australia. The Christians are a ghastly example of tolerance. The fact remains that they do not currently rely on terrorism to enforce their beliefs on the rest of humanity. No points given. to Christians, they just don’t give you “suggestions” at the point of a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nickelbeer said: The Christians are a ghastly example of tolerance. The fact remains that they do not currently rely on terrorism to enforce their beliefs on the rest of humanity. No points given. to Christians, they just don’t give you “suggestions” at the point of a gun. Oh yes they do!. Most of the hate crimes in the US are the white supremacists who can be closely linked to Christian churches. https://www.rawstory.com/fort-hood-church/ https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2018/holy-hate-far-right’s-radicalization-religion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Oh yes they do!. Most of the hate crimes in the US are the white supremacists who can be closely linked to Christian churches. https://www.rawstory.com/fort-hood-church/ https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2018/holy-hate-far-right’s-radicalization-religion These examples could easily reflect the empire driven zealousness that they push on the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickelbeer Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Oh yes they do!. Most of the hate crimes in the US are the white supremacists who can be closely linked to Christian churches. https://www.rawstory.com/fort-hood-church/ https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2018/holy-hate-far-right’s-radicalization-religion You cite TWO examples out of hundreds and even THOUSANDS for Muslims. Still very rare for Christian nut groups to resort to violence. Even when it happens, the number of victims is fewer and most all Christians are up in arms at being associated with this type of terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nickelbeer said: You cite TWO examples out of hundreds and even THOUSANDS for Muslims. Still very rare for Christian nut groups to resort to violence. Even when it happens, the number of victims is fewer and most all Christians are up in arms at being associated with this type of terrorism. It's no less rare in Muslim countries either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 19 hours ago, seajae said: trouble is islamic teachings are based on hundreds of year old teachings and they refuse to modernize apart from how they wage war on people, they do not like anyone refusing to do what they want them too, time for the govt to tell them to stick their teachings where the sun dont shine True, but then Christianity is based on thousands of years of old teachings, and many Christians refuse to modernize their beliefs, too. Heck, most of the coffin-dodgers I know who got much younger women pregnant were of a particular Christian denomination. But why is that? Well, it has something to do with their god telling them (in a book written by one of 50 some blokes) that the deity disapproves of birth control, and the flock obeys. So when one bashes Islam as some crackpot religion, I suppose the question is... "Compared to what? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post bendejo Posted June 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2022 If not for the words "Thailand" and "Islamic" in the title of this thread a person might expect this to be about a something a US Supreme Court justice published a few days ago. Maybe this international trend should be called The Regressive Movement. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Stubby said: So when one bashes Islam as some crackpot religion, I suppose the question is... "Compared to what? They are all crackpot. Just that many people are to blind to see it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Nickelbeer said: The Christians are a ghastly example of tolerance. The fact remains that they do not currently rely on terrorism to enforce their beliefs on the rest of humanity. No points given. to Christians, they just don’t give you “suggestions” at the point of a gun. Not so - six Christian terror organisations... https://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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