Long traffic delays at Dover ferry port are fault of Brexit, claim French

[Mac Mickmanus]

12 hours ago, onthedarkside said:

Because of the Covid pandemic’s travel restrictions this is the first summer since Britain left the EU in which tourist passengers are experiencing full passport checks. 

Why does the report fail to mention its also the first time that Covid vaccination documents need to be checked , to see what vaccinations people have and when they had them .

   That is what is causing much of the delays .

I have a French friend who works for Eurostar and yesterday she told me that delays in entry to France are caused by the authorities checking everyone's vaccination status , which vaccinating they had, on which date , how many vaccinations they had .

   The delays have been caused by a technology glitch on the French side , understaffed counters on the French side and Covid vaccination checking on the French side .

  This is all the Fench's fault and nothing to do with us Brits , although Brits have to suffer because of French  behaviour 

   

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1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Fully staffed yesterday, even longer delays 

Could be the ham sandwich search.....????

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Let me see. First you claimed that checking passports wasn't necessary 50 years ago. And now you claim that the Schengen system is responsible. How does that work exactly? What has the Schengen system done that differs significantly from 50 years ago when passports weren't checked?

Don't connect these two different posts to try and make a single argument. They concern different times and political/border arrangements of those times.  

[nauseus]

8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Why does the report fail to mention its also the first time that Covid vaccination documents need to be checked , to see what vaccinations people have and when they had them .

   That is what is causing much of the delays .

I have a French friend who works for Eurostar and yesterday she told me that delays in entry to France are caused by the authorities checking everyone's vaccination status , which vaccinating they had, on which date , how many vaccinations they had .

   The delays have been caused by a technology glitch on the French side , understaffed counters on the French side and Covid vaccination checking on the French side .

  This is all the Fench's fault and nothing to do with us Brits , although Brits have to suffer because of French  behaviour 

   

Bonjour mon sewer, 'as your ham sarnie been vaccinated yet?

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2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Don't connect these two different posts to try and make a single argument. They concern different times and political/border arrangements of those times.  

Aren't you the poster who raised the issue of what the situation was 50 years ago and compared it to the current situation? Did I get that wrong?

[nauseus]

Just now, placeholder said:

Aren't you the poster who raised the issue of what the situation was 50 years ago and compared it to the current situation? Did I get that wrong?

Of course you did.

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3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Bonjour mon sewer, 'as your ham sarnie been vaccinated yet?

But some here thinks its the Brits fault.........????

 

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3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Of course you did.

I've got some alarming news for you. Somebody has hacked into your account:

[Mac Mickmanus]

45 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, so you're claiming that security climate of roughly 50 years ago was no different than it is today?

I don't recall there any delays in Brits obtaining entry to France in 1944 when 150 000 Brits  went across the Channel , dont recall ever hearing about the French authorities checking everyones passports back then

 

 

Edited July 24, 2022 by Mac Mickmanus

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

I've got some alarming news for you. Somebody has hacked into your account:

Damn.

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Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

I don't recall there any delays in Brits obtaining entry to France in 1944 when 150 000 Brits  went across the Channel , dont recall ever hearing about the Fench authorities checking everyosn passports 

 

 

Thank you for your service. 

[Joe Farang]

15 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Why does the report fail to mention its also the first time that Covid vaccination documents need to be checked , to see what vaccinations people have and when they had them .

   That is what is causing much of the delays .

I have a French friend who works for Eurostar and yesterday she told me "that delays in entry to France are caused by the authorities checking everyone's vaccination status , which vaccinating they had, on which date , how many vaccinations they had .

   The delays have been caused by a technology glitch on the French side , understaffed counters on the French side and Covid vaccination checking on the French side .

  This is all the Fench's fault and nothing to do with us Brits , although Brits have to suffer because of French  behaviour 

   

"I have a French friend who works for Eurostar and yesterday she told me"

 

Yeah, sure you do.

I suppose you also have a Chinese female friend that works on the high speed rail project.

 

Bottom line, the UK voted for Brexit and this is the reality of what Brexit is. The fluffy "Lets make Britain Great again" chant of the Brexiteers was only ever waffle

[Boomer6969]

49 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Was Brexit an act of divine intervention? Or could it be called "'man-made' and unnecessary"?

Well someone said "Brexit is a mood, not a policy".

[Bruno123]

40 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The new rules were introduced two and a half years ago , why are there suddenly delays now ?

   It was the French staff not turning up for work which caused the delays and the Frenches technology broke  .

   Brexit rules have been in place for 30 months now , you cannot blame Brexit for your own Countries failings , besides , you should have measures in place to deal with any delays connected to Brexit

   

 

Convenient word blindness?

 

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Because of the Covid pandemic’s travel restrictions this is the first summer since Britain left the EU in which tourist passengers are experiencing full passport checks. 

 

What measures should they put in place? They didn't vote for Brexit.

 

Another twenty booths for passport checks? Who should pay for that?

 

 

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I don't recall there any delays in Brits obtaining entry to France in 1944 when 150 000 Brits  went across the Channel , dont recall ever hearing about the French authorities checking everyones passports back then

 

 

Very sad post.

[Phoenix Rising]

54 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Strange that the French didn't worry about stamping British passports before we joined the EEC/EU.

 

51 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, so you're claiming that security climate of roughly 50 years ago was no different than it is today?

Not really a surprise as a common denominator among the Brexit crowd is being stuck in the past.

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1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Very sad post.

Why, are you German..................????............????

[worgeordie]

It's all about the UK leaving the EU , how dare we , 

and now the EU , especially the French are doing

everything to harm the UK , so no other country

in EU would even think about leaving the club ,

 

We gave them millions to try and prevent immigrants

from crossing the channel , money well spent  ????, if France

and EU are so great , why are these people risking their lives 

to cross the channel to get to UK ..........they are safe in EU.

 

regards Worgeordie

 

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2 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

 

Not really a surprise as a common denominator among the Brexit crowd is being stuck in the past.

Eeeeer, correction,  they WERE stuck in the past....????

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, Bruno123 said:

 

Convenient word blindness?

 

 

What measures should they put in place? They didn't vote for Brexit.

 

Another twenty booths for passport checks? Who should pay for that?

 

 

Passports have always been checked , people from all over the World on various passports travel between U.K and France 

[nauseus]

5 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

 

Not really a surprise as a common denominator among the Brexit crowd is being stuck in the past.

Bring on Boring.

[nauseus]

33 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Fully staffed yesterday, even longer delays 

Big shipment of ham sandwiches I guess.

[Phoenix Rising]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Bring on Boring.

Boring already arrived. Being stuck in passport lines is the very definition of boring. Feel sorry for those who voted no and now have to pay the price for the idiocy.

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3 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

It's all about the UK leaving the EU , how dare we , 

and now the EU , especially the French are doing

everything to harm the UK , so no other country

in EU would even think about leaving the club ,

 

We gave them millions to try and prevent immigrants

from crossing the channel , money well spent  ????, if France

and EU are so great , why are these people risking their lives 

to cross the channel to get to UK ..........they are safe in EU.

 

regards Worgeordie

 

You expect 100% protection. Maybe the UK should up its payments. Although the law of diminishing returns does apply

 

What is France doing to prevent illegal small boat crossings to UK?

“It is very difficult for the police to stop people from crossing. We are talking about 150km of coastline, not a port,” he said. “The more money the UK gives to France to militarise the border, the more migrants will turn to traffickers to try to make it across – because they have no legitimate way of doing so.”

https://www.thelocal.fr/20211112/what-is-france-doing-to-stop-migrants-crossing-the-channel/

[Mac Mickmanus]

8 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

 

Not really a surprise as a common denominator among the Brexit crowd is being stuck in the past.

And are the remainers still living in the past, a time when the U.K was a still a member of the E.U ?

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Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

And are the remainers still living in the past, a time when the U.K was a still a member of the E.U ?

Actually, they're living in a dismal present which they predicted.

[worgeordie]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

You expect 100% protection. Maybe the UK should up its payments. Although the law of diminishing returns does apply

 

What is France doing to prevent illegal small boat crossings to UK?

“It is very difficult for the police to stop people from crossing. We are talking about 150km of coastline, not a port,” he said. “The more money the UK gives to France to militarise the border, the more migrants will turn to traffickers to try to make it across – because they have no legitimate way of doing so.”

https://www.thelocal.fr/20211112/what-is-france-doing-to-stop-migrants-crossing-the-channel/

Getting our money's worth would be good , doubt they are REALLY trying .

sure we gave them enough to have a helicopter flying up and down the coast

to spot them.

regards worgeordie

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Actually, they're living in a dismal present which they predicted.

Ah, so you are using these delays to continue with the "Project fear" campaign ?

  There are various reasons for the delays 

A glitch in the technology in France .

Under staffing in France 

In depth Covid checks in France .

UK flight cancellations causing more people to to to France .

 But you ignore all those reasons and try to blame the delays on Brexit , just so you can say, 

"See, I told you what would happen if you voted Brexit"

   Whilst ignoring all the real reasons .

This is just a continuation of the fear mongering 

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11 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Boring already arrived. Being stuck in passport lines is the very definition of boring. Feel sorry for those who voted no and now have to pay the price for the idiocy.

Wow, you have never been stuck in passport lanes other than France...

You haven't travelled much then, mon amis....????

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33 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Ah, so you are using these delays to continue with the "Project fear" campaign ?

  There are various reasons for the delays 

A glitch in the technology in France .

Under staffing in France 

In depth Covid checks in France .

UK flight cancellations causing more people to to to France .

 But you ignore all those reasons and try to blame the delays on Brexit , just so you can say, 

"See, I told you what would happen if you voted Brexit"

   Whilst ignoring all the real reasons .

This is just a continuation of the fear mongering 

"The Project Fear" campaign, which is how Brexiters characterized Remainers warning about what would ensue after Brexit, was about what would happen in the future. Well, the future is now the present. So it's no longer about fearing the future, but rather mourning the present. And of course, there is the dubious consolation of schadenfreude as in "I told you so".

Edited July 24, 2022 by placeholder