Intelligent conversation.!!!

[BigStar]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If you're in love, you're probably more foolish than she is.

Ah, sweet foolishness.???? Rabbits, anyone?

[LaosLover]

First off, Mr Star, I have shaken the hand of Alex Chilton.

 

I looked into Pattaya (Jomtien, really) due to the availability of good gyms and restaurants. Prob not on my shortlist, but if you can tell about the gym selection there, I'd appreciate it.

 

I want to learn about and experienc places likee Ubon, but I want to live in comfort-land. The # of guys here move to Rai Et without a romantic connection has got to be in the single digits, cumulatively to date.

[Sparktrader]

3 minutes ago, LaosLover said:

First off, Mr Star, I have shaken the hand of Alex Chilton.

 

I looked into Pattaya (Jomtien, really) due to the availability of good gyms and restaurants. Prob not on my shortlist, but if you can tell about the gym selection there, I'd appreciate it.

 

I want to learn about and experienc places likee Ubon, but I want to live in comfort-land. The # of guys here move to Rai Et without a romantic connection has got to be in the single digits, cumulatively to date.

What comforts do you need? 

 

Id go to Nakhon Phanom. Airport. Food. Walks along river. Real Asia. Pattaya is fake Asia.

 

You went to Pai - fake Asia. Go to Mae Sariang or Lampang.

 

Forget Thai books study the people.

 

[LaosLover]

Do you see yourself as the ultra-rare person who moves to Lampang right from the get-go, settles in and stays there? That's very unlikely.

 

Since you come up very light in the cultural studies department, your vague claims of "studying the people" seem spurious. How deep are these sam song-lubricated discussions? Are you just feeling the love?

 

Not seeing how that's any more meaningful than me going to the gym in Pai. And I talked to plenty of Thai people while there -can't claim any great insights from that, tho.

 

Problem: You want to be the smartest guy in the room and you're only middling smart. 

[roo860]

1 hour ago, LaosLover said:

The young Thai woman at Lost Books in Chiang Mai old city (GF of the owner, I think) knew all about William Burroughs when I bought his bio. "He shot his wife in the head", she laughed, "He is a crazy man and his books are too hard to read". She likes Mark Twain. 

 

Gentlemen, please form an orderly que outside the bookstore.

An Irish guy used to own it, they moved to their present location a few years ago, I still go in there for books.

[BigStar]

12 minutes ago, LaosLover said:

if you can tell about the gym selection there, I'd appreciate it.

We had a little thread about that recently:

 

which covers the nicer gyms, and not the hotel gyms. The Centara Grand gym is really nice, for example.

 

 

[LaosLover]

Prob the best option in Chiang Mai. Used bookstores are on life support.

[Sparktrader]

3 minutes ago, LaosLover said:

Do you see yourself as the ultra-rare person who moves to Lampang right from the get-go, settles in and stays there? That's very unlikely.

 

Since you come up very light in the cultural studies department, your vague claims of "studying the people" seem spurious. How deep are these sam song-lubricated discussions? Are you just feeling the love?

 

Not seeing how that's any more meaningful than me going to the gym in Pai. And I talked to plenty of Thai people while there -can't claim any great insights from that, tho.

 

Problem: You want to be the smartest guy in the room and you're only middling smart. 

People are culture. Reading books is mostly just history.

 

Study people you learn culture. Study books you learn 1952.

 

Up to you.

 

 

[LaosLover]

This is a typical view of people like yourself who are mostly self-educated.

 

That's commendable, but that's always on the back foot when encountering specialists and people who went to good schools.

[Sparktrader]

3 minutes ago, LaosLover said:

This is a typical view of people like yourself who are mostly self-educated.

 

That's commendable, but that's always on the back foot when encountering specialists and people who went to good schools.

I have 2 degrees. Most books are overrated. Dale Carnegie is one of the few authors who understands people. Most academics dont.

 

Getting brainwashed in a "good school" really isnt the best way to learn.

 

Bill Gates, Mark Z dropped out of Uni cause its mostly useless info.

 

The most successful people never had the best mbas.

 

Those that can do. Those that cant teach.

[LaosLover]

What's better:

 

Read some books on Akha tribe people or have a genial short discussion with one of them?

 

I didn't get a college degree till I was 32, so I'm a big fan of self-education. Going to Grad school (at NYU, woke should be my middle name) def made me a better thinker and expresser.

 

Viewing all education as a scam is a typical neurosis of self-educated people and one I used to share. Citing ultra rare examples like Zuckerberg as typical is another such neurosis. Claiming -with no real life experience- that all profs are just incompetent parasites is a third.

 

Self-education and the trad model both have their ups and downs. The most successful people do best with a bit of both.

[CharlieH]

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[peter zwart]

23 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

You don't want it. Intellectual stimulation in a relationship comes at a very high cost. 

 

Even though my wife is very smart, I do not get much intellectual stimulation from the relationship. But, I get so much else. And in all of the relationships I was ever in with really smart women, who I got intellectual stimulation from, there was also so much grief to contend with. Such combative women. So much competition. Yikes. Thrilled to death to have left all of that behind.

 

When I was only in the relationship for a year or so, I had dinner with a very sharp American friend. I asked him about that. He laughed. He said, when you feel the need for intellectual stimulation, call me. We can hook up for the meal, and break down the origins of the cosmos. Do not fret. That same brain that gives you that stimulation, also tends to give you so much grief, it is not worth it, on any level. Get over it. Enjoy all of the other qualities, that make your day so delightful and fulfilling.

 

Great advice, that I have followed to this day. I learned long ago that an intellectual woman, who can match me intellectually, also tends to be a combative woman, and the chance of harmony is low. I for one, love a harmonious house, where my woman is joyful and light hearted, with a great sense of humor, and an amazing attitude toward life, and us. Just my point of view. Whatever works for you, stick with it.
 

+1

[BigStar]

On 9/26/2022 at 12:24 PM, The Theory said:

I'm sorry 

but not all girls are from bars. 
in fact she has master degree, but worthless to me. 

Sounds like a pretty good lady. After you're all cleared out and left her the house and vehicles, would you mind giving out her number by PM to some interested guys here who don't need to talk international politics or world news with a gf or wife? Maybe look at their previous posts for a sanity check or otherwise pre-screen.

[1FinickyOne]

On 9/26/2022 at 12:21 PM, The Theory said:

International politics or world news is a big zero

Can't help but think you might be better off without... 

 

Even some of my 'smart' friends - I don't really need to hear their opinions... especially the repetitive ones. 

[1FinickyOne]

On 9/26/2022 at 3:12 PM, Lacessit said:

I don't need intelligent conversation with my GF, the mundane suits me fine.

 

Given the number of anti-vaxxers, climate deniers, Trump fanboys and Putin trolls that appear to be on ASEAN, I don't look for intelligent conversation here either.

vice versa L. man - vice versa... 

[Sparktrader]

22 hours ago, LaosLover said:

What's better:

 

Read some books on Akha tribe people or have a genial short discussion with one of them?

 

I didn't get a college degree till I was 32, so I'm a big fan of self-education. Going to Grad school (at NYU, woke should be my middle name) def made me a better thinker and expresser.

 

Viewing all education as a scam is a typical neurosis of self-educated people and one I used to share. Citing ultra rare examples like Zuckerberg as typical is another such neurosis. Claiming -with no real life experience- that all profs are just incompetent parasites is a third.

 

Self-education and the trad model both have their ups and downs. The most successful people do best with a bit of both.

Does book reading teach you how to win Wimbledon or US Masters?

 

Does it help running Tesla?

 

Nope. Book reading is book reading.

 

Books are just ideas. Action makes things work.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

11 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Does book reading teach you how to win Wimbledon or US Masters?

 

Does it help running Tesla?

 

Nope. Book reading is book reading.

 

Books are just ideas. Action makes things work.

A degree can give you skills. I did accounting. Didn't like it but it got me somewhere. It helps you learn how to write and structure your thinking. Skills I see lacking every day in the workplace.

I am no Bill Gates. Us nobody office workers, who get decent pay and will get a nice public service pension, benefited from what a degree provided.

 

On your other topic, I stayed in an Akha village in 1985 at 20, with my girlfriend. I looked at them. They looked at me.  Learn more in a book if I happened to be interested unless I stayed for a long long time. 

Edited September 28, 2022 by Fat is a type of crazy

[Sparktrader]

23 hours ago, LaosLover said:

that all profs are just incompetent parasites is a third.

Those are your words.

[Sparktrader]

19 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

get a nice public service pension,

Without entrepreneurs we be in caves still.

[1FinickyOne]

On 9/27/2022 at 12:40 PM, Sparktrader said:

Those that cant teach.

Teach gym.

[1FinickyOne]

On 9/26/2022 at 7:11 PM, blackshadow said:

they do not even know where america or austalia are !!!!!

and maybe, really, they are no worse for it.. most of us know where it is, but aren't they generally happier than most of us? 

[1FinickyOne]

5 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I am no Bill Gates.

Ahhhhh, now I'm disappointed... 

 

though pretty cool art staying in the Akha village... I like Akha people. 

[hotandsticky]

2 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

and maybe, really, they are no worse for it.. most of us know where it is, but aren't they generally happier than most of us? 

Nope!

 

 

Not if you scratch a little way under the surface........................and look at the rising suicide rates.

[1FinickyOne]

6 hours ago, BigStar said:

would you mind giving out her number by PM

I'll give you a 10% finders fee.

[GinBoy2]

On 9/26/2022 at 12:51 AM, spidermike007 said:

You don't want it. Intellectual stimulation in a relationship comes at a very high cost. 

 

Even though my wife is very smart, I do not get much intellectual stimulation from the relationship. But, I get so much else. And in all of the relationships I was ever in with really smart women, who I got intellectual stimulation from, there was also so much grief to contend with. Such combative women. So much competition. Yikes. Thrilled to death to have left all of that behind.

 

When I was only in the relationship for a year or so, I had dinner with a very sharp American friend. I asked him about that. He laughed. He said, when you feel the need for intellectual stimulation, call me. We can hook up for the meal, and break down the origins of the cosmos. Do not fret. That same brain that gives you that stimulation, also tends to give you so much grief, it is not worth it, on any level. Get over it. Enjoy all of the other qualities, that make your day so delightful and fulfilling.

 

Great advice, that I have followed to this day. I learned long ago that an intellectual woman, who can match me intellectually, also tends to be a combative woman, and the chance of harmony is low. I for one, love a harmonious house, where my woman is joyful and light hearted, with a great sense of humor, and an amazing attitude toward life, and us. Just my point of view. Whatever works for you, stick with it.
 

Hmmm, I agree and disagree at the same time.

 

My eldest unmarried daughter is very much cut from the same cloth as me.

 

She's strong and wants her own way. Yet a weak man who would let her win every time would infuriate her.

 

Me and my wife can debate/argue about almost everything from the pros/con's of nuclear energy to the cost of a gallon of milk.

 

Yet somehow it seems to get the blood flowing, and this combative relationship seems to have worked for us for 20+ years, without either of us getting bored, or one us getting murdered 

[Sparktrader]

41 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

Hmmm, I agree and disagree at the same time.

 

My eldest unmarried daughter is very much cut from the same cloth as me.

 

She's strong and wants her own way. Yet a weak man who would let her win every time would infuriate her.

 

Me and my wife can debate/argue about almost everything from the pros/con's of nuclear energy to the cost of a gallon of milk.

 

Yet somehow it seems to get the blood flowing, and this combative relationship seems to have worked for us for 20+ years, without either of us getting bored, or one us getting murdered 

Exciting stuff

[BigStar]

7 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I am no Bill Gates.

Good, we don't need more than one Bill Gates here.????

[Sparktrader]

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

Nope!

 

 

Not if you scratch a little way under the surface........................and look at the rising suicide rates.

Look at Others

[zzaa09]

Oh dear. 

The proverbial and enhanced stereotypes. 

 

If one is seeking wisdom and intelligence - please, don't peer into the mirror.

A cautionary note to most. 

 

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