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Joe Biden’s latest gaffe plays right into Republicans’ hands


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17 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

For months we’ve had the rightwing Biden haters telling us he reads everything off a teleprompter.

 

That of course is an exaggeration on their part, but be assured he does not write his own speeches without input from advisors.

 

He was was clearly given badly researched briefing notes.

 

Don’t get me wrong, it plays right into the hands of the rightwing fabricated outrage, but it’s not something I’ll spit my Covfefe over.

This is not about fabricated outrage but rather genuine concern.

 

For months we’ve witnessed Biden blundering about, both physically and mentally. Apart from risking personal injury, some of his words have risked much worse, often quickly having to be retracted or 'clarified' by his White House minders. With Putin behaving like he is now, then the last thing the US (and Europe) needs is such a fragile leader.   

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21 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Happy to help you cope with the Internet.

 

In Standoff With Putin, Biden Makes Sure European Allies Are With Him
In what amounts to a much-needed diplomatic reset, the U.S. is orchestrating the response to Russia’s threatening moves and making sure to include his European allies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/world/europe/biden-putin-ukraine-europe.html

Might have known - just another NYT propaganda story from January - Russia still invaded anyway and the EU seems more divided than ever. NATO is far more relevant here than the EU. 

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15 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Might have known - just another NYT propaganda story from January - Russia still invaded anyway and the EU seems more divided than ever. NATO is far more relevant here than the EU. 

EU divided? Hardly.

 

In the face of Russia's war of aggression as well as Moscow's latest escalation, the European Union stands resolutely with Ukraine and its people. We are unwavering in our support to Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty. Ukraine is exercising its legitimate right to defend itself against the Russian aggression to regain full control of its territory and has the right to liberate occupied territories within its internationally recognised borders. The nuclear threats made by the Kremlin, the military mobilisation and the strategy of seeking to falsely present Ukraine's territory as Russia's and purporting that the war may now be taking place on Russia's territory will not shake our resolve.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2022/09/30/statement-by-the-members-of-the-european-council/

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13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

EU divided? Hardly.

 

In the face of Russia's war of aggression as well as Moscow's latest escalation, the European Union stands resolutely with Ukraine and its people. We are unwavering in our support to Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty. Ukraine is exercising its legitimate right to defend itself against the Russian aggression to regain full control of its territory and has the right to liberate occupied territories within its internationally recognised borders. The nuclear threats made by the Kremlin, the military mobilisation and the strategy of seeking to falsely present Ukraine's territory as Russia's and purporting that the war may now be taking place on Russia's territory will not shake our resolve.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2022/09/30/statement-by-the-members-of-the-european-council/

This has come about due to Putin - not Biden. The EU is divided on many internal issues - look at the threats of penalties to Hungary, Poland and, very recently Italy. This 'unwavering support' has not been total either, with Germany lagging far behind others in terms of military equipment assistance. 

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3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Might have known - just another NYT propaganda story from January - Russia still invaded anyway and the EU seems more divided than ever. NATO is far more relevant here than the EU. 

Why am I not shocked that you dismiss one of the world's leading news media sources? Your characterizations are laughable.

'Russia still invaded anyway'? Yes they did but because the Biden administration, against much of the world's "expert" consensus, repeatedly warned that it wasn't a question of if Russia was going to invade but when. Remember how Russia kept on denying that an invasion was planned and lots of people in important places kept on believing them? The Biden's administration's stance cemented its status as the leader in understanding what Russia was up to.

 

And since you reflexively won't accept the NY Times report, what about those lefties at The Telegraph?

US and Germany 'absolutely united' as Joe Biden promises to scrap Nord Stream 2 if Russia invades
Olaf Scholz 'we will act together' after White House meeting with Joe Biden

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/07/us-working-prevent-europeans-dying-fears-grow-putin-could-cut/

Biden got Germany to agree to scrap Nordstream 2 in the event of a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

 

Not only that, but Biden and Zelensky actually disagreed on the likelihood of a Russian invasion. You think Biden's correct take didn't cement his authority?

Friendly arguments: Biden’s and Zelensky’s disagreement on the threat from Russia

https://ecfr.eu/article/friendly-arguments-bidens-and-zelenskys-disagreement-on-the-threat-from-russia/

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5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

This has come about due to Putin - not Biden. The EU is divided on many internal issues - look at the threats of penalties to Hungary, Poland and, very recently Italy. This 'unwavering support' has not been total either, with Germany lagging far behind others in terms of military equipment assistance. 

There's not a democratic institution in the whole world that has complete 100% unity, part of the process of democracy. Its never perfect but they are united in their goals.

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42 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Maga folk adopting the same trashy diatribe as their cult leader. Showing their inability to speak intelligently. By the way, decision making not make by one man now. I know it’s difficult for you to understand that concept. 

Yes and it's clearly classic projection deflection to accuse the democrats of not caring about democracy. No. That's the maga position. Also note almost every time Mr. Trump accuses a perceived enemy of doing something odious, he's actually talking about himself.

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16 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

More off topic distractions from the Trump Deranged.  Is he really that much of a threat?

Any dumb idiot in charge of the country is a threat, and that fits trump exactly.

 

After all, with his many failed businesses, lies and deceit, along with the attack on the U.S. Capitol that disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress in the process of affirming the presidential election results, which trump stated was "stolen" from him, the man is mentally unstable and a threat to democracy in every way shape or form.

 

So he is a threat, along with the poison he spouts and which weak minded and weak willed supporters gladly lap up. Indeed, a threat which should be eliminated.

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18 hours ago, placeholder said:

Exclusive poll: Anti-Trump voters would pay over $5,000 to guarantee he doesn’t run

A strong majority of voters don’t want to see either Joe Biden or Donald Trump run for president again in 2024, but they’re willing to pay more to keep Trump off the ballot, according to a new Deseret News/HarrisX national poll. 

When asked whether they want Biden to run for president again, 66% of voters said he should not run, compared to only 58% of voters who don’t want Trump on the ballot. But the voters who don’t want Trump to run are willing to pay more to keep him off the ballot — a measure of how strong voters’ feelings are about the former president. 

https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/26/23363500/exclusive-poll-anti-trump-voters-would-pay-over-5000-to-guarantee-he-doesnt-run

 

Only 35% of Voters Believe Donald Trump Should Be Eligible to Serve as President Again: Poll

A new poll seems to show waning support for former President Donald Trump's political future, with more than 50% of respondents saying he should be barred from serving as president again down the road.

The poll — conducted by Yahoo News/YouGov shortly after New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a new lawsuit against the Trump family — asked nearly 1,600 registered voters whether the former president should "be allowed to serve as president again in the future," given "what we know about the ongoing investigations."

Fifty-one percent of respondents said that in light of his legal troubles, he should not be allowed to serve as president again. 

https://people.com/politics/majority-voters-think-trump-should-be-ineligible-to-serve-as-president/

On the other hand 35% think he should be eligible

 

Two-thirds of independents say they don't want Trump to run for president

Former President Donald Trump continues to heavily suggest he will run for president in 2024, but a new poll out from NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist shows voters in the middle overwhelmingly don't want him to give it another go.

Sixty-seven percent of independents said they do not want Trump to run again, while just 28% said they do. In 2020, Trump lost independents and lost the election.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/07/1121307491/poll-trump-fbi-search-run-2024

 

 

I'm sure that you know that the only accurate poll is the election, and 2 years out it is  too soon to be speculating about who will stand for POTUS.

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5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm sure that you know that the only accurate poll is the election, and 2 years out it is  too soon to be speculating about who will stand for POTUS.

You should check the post he was responding to. Perhaps better to address that one.

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17 hours ago, placeholder said:

Just replying to an enthusiastic Trump fan with something he's probably unfamilar with called evidence.

Well there is plenty of evidence that Biden is  no longer fit for purpose. Just look at him during an unscripted interview.

If Trump had done anything like the same, the uproar would have been incredible. Just imagine the media reaction if Trump had called out for a dead person. Instead they are covering for Biden, and all the anti Trumpers on here would have been clamouring for him to resign, instead of making excuses.

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7 hours ago, placeholder said:

Why am I not shocked that you dismiss one of the world's leading news media sources? Your characterizations are laughable.

'Russia still invaded anyway'? Yes they did but because the Biden administration, against much of the world's "expert" consensus, repeatedly warned that it wasn't a question of if Russia was going to invade but when. Remember how Russia kept on denying that an invasion was planned and lots of people in important places kept on believing them? The Biden's administration's stance cemented its status as the leader in understanding what Russia was up to.

 

And since you reflexively won't accept the NY Times report, what about those lefties at The Telegraph?

US and Germany 'absolutely united' as Joe Biden promises to scrap Nord Stream 2 if Russia invades
Olaf Scholz 'we will act together' after White House meeting with Joe Biden

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/07/us-working-prevent-europeans-dying-fears-grow-putin-could-cut/

Biden got Germany to agree to scrap Nordstream 2 in the event of a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

 

Not only that, but Biden and Zelensky actually disagreed on the likelihood of a Russian invasion. You think Biden's correct take didn't cement his authority?

Friendly arguments: Biden’s and Zelensky’s disagreement on the threat from Russia

https://ecfr.eu/article/friendly-arguments-bidens-and-zelenskys-disagreement-on-the-threat-from-russia/

You claimed that the Biden was "orchestrating the response to Russia’s threatening moves and making sure to include his European allies". Just warning of an invasion is not a response to it. If the Ukrainians had not defended so strongly where would they be now. 

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7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

EU divided? Hardly.

 

In the face of Russia's war of aggression as well as Moscow's latest escalation, the European Union stands resolutely with Ukraine and its people. We are unwavering in our support to Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty. Ukraine is exercising its legitimate right to defend itself against the Russian aggression to regain full control of its territory and has the right to liberate occupied territories within its internationally recognised borders. The nuclear threats made by the Kremlin, the military mobilisation and the strategy of seeking to falsely present Ukraine's territory as Russia's and purporting that the war may now be taking place on Russia's territory will not shake our resolve.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2022/09/30/statement-by-the-members-of-the-european-council/

Let's wait till winter to see if a lack of heating changes people's minds.

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4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Well there is plenty of evidence that Biden is  no longer fit for purpose. Just look at him during an unscripted interview.

If Trump had done anything like the same, the uproar would have been incredible. Just imagine the media reaction if Trump had called out for a dead person. Instead they are covering for Biden, and all the anti Trumpers on here would have been clamouring for him to resign, instead of making excuses.

Trump told a lot of B.S. (I.e. inject bleach, covfefe, etc...). Anti-Trumpers were have not been clamouring for him to resign because of that, as they didn't need to. There were much more serious and relevant reasons to clamour for him to resign

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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yes and it's clearly classic projection deflection to accuse the democrats of not caring about democracy. No. That's the maga position. Also note almost every time Mr. Trump accuses a perceived enemy of doing something odious, he's actually talking about himself.

What would you do without Trump? You guys talk about him more than his voters. How could you possibly go on if anything happened to him? 

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2 hours ago, xylophone said:

Any dumb idiot in charge of the country is a threat, and that fits trump exactly.

 

After all, with his many failed businesses, lies and deceit, along with the attack on the U.S. Capitol that disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress in the process of affirming the presidential election results, which trump stated was "stolen" from him, the man is mentally unstable and a threat to democracy in every way shape or form.

 

So he is a threat, along with the poison he spouts and which weak minded and weak willed supporters gladly lap up. Indeed, a threat which should be eliminated.

So strange, then, that the world enjoyed four years of relative peace, whilst this "dumb idiot" was the  President. That sense of peace, of course, has now gone, with the arrival of the new "smart" POTUS. ????  

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12 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What would you do without Trump? You guys talk about him more than his voters. How could you possibly go on if anything happened to him? 

Try me.

Kindly desist from personal baiting me. Such obnoxious postz are very unwelcome.

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16 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Let's wait till winter to see if a lack of heating changes people's minds.

European countries filled up their gas storage facilities before the winter after Russia’s Gazprom reduced supplies, including through the important Nord Stream 1 (NS1) pipeline. That's what pushed up prices.

 

"Goldman said on Tuesday it expected European wholesale natural gas prices to fall from about €215 (£186) a megawatt hour to below €100 a MWh by the end of the first quarter of next year, assuming typical winter weather conditions."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/13/gas-prices-eu-fall-sharply-goldman-sachs-eu-russia

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