When i was waiting for the presser on TV, I switched to a popular conservative News channel.

 

Without any real information the host was already trying to deflect any culpability from the perpetrator and possible fomenters of violence and let no political opportunity be wasted.

He subtly suggested that this sort of crime is commonplace in Democratic cities, the injury must not be serious as the husband was able to call police, the entry door was insecure glass and that there could be blame directed at Pelosi and the Capitol police for poor security.

 

On the other hand, the liberal media are calling for Trump to do a public statement to condemn this type of violence.

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Of course it's highly likely that Pelosi will lose her speakership soon anyway.

You really believe the replicas can gain a majority? If so the orangman will be vindicated and investigations dropped, well that's what his followers believe. 

The perp has obviously been listening to Schumer and Maxine Waters.

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

You're right. There are plenty of independent news sources to refute such nonsense.

As to independent news sources, most are cancelled. Only news sources citing the accepted narrative is allowed (in the west).

13 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

"DePape will be booked in San Francisco jail on suspicion of attempted homicide, assault with a deadly weapon, elder abuse, burglary and several other felony charges, Scott said."

 

"“The motive for this attack is still being determined,” S.F. Police Chief Bill Scott said."

 

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/live-updates-paul-pelosi-attack-17541903.php

 

 

Investigate away Chief Scott, but I suspect we all know what this loons motivations will have been and who inspired them. 

4 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

As to independent news sources, most are cancelled. Only news sources citing the accepted narrative is allowed (in the west).

Yet, the PBS is regarded as the most independent, unaffiliated, non-government, non-profit, most-trusted, unbiased News Service in the US. 

4 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

 

As to independent news sources, most are cancelled. Only news sources citing the accepted narrative is allowed (in the west).

Strange because all news sources are available to research on the web, one of the wonders of freedom in the west.

10 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

But AFAIK, as yet, there's been no specific information publicly released as to just what exactly may have motivated the guy who's been arrested in the case and what have been his political views.  I suspect something will be forthcoming soon.

 

9 hours after your post, the information is out there..

 

Politically deluded. Conspiracy nut..

 

Probably drank a whole jug of the Kool-Aid

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Strange because all news sources are available to research on the web, one of the wonders of freedom in the west.

Your claim:

4 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

 

As to independent news sources, most are cancelled. Only news sources citing the accepted narrative is allowed (in the west).

Which I addressed already. For some added context: https://freedomhouse.org/explore-the-map?type=fotn&year=2022

 

So where did you get this notion from? "Only news sources citing the accepted narrative is allowed (in the west)."

12 hours ago, setbkk said:

Politically motivated. Heard to say "where's Nancy?". Some fringe lunatic.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63435554

 

From the link and there is more.

 

Far right web activity
A blog, website and social media accounts under the name of the suspect seen by the BBC are filled with anti-Semitic memes, Holocaust denial, references to far-right websites and conspiracy theories such as QAnon.

He also posted debunked allegations of election fraud. His recent posts were rambling and touched on a host of far-right and extremist talking points.

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

You really believe the replicas can gain a majority? If so the orangman will be vindicated and investigations dropped, well that's what his followers believe. 

I think it's very likely that they will gain a majority in the House at least. But what makes this so ridiculous is that William Barr was AG for most of the 2nd half of Trump's term in office. He appointed an obviously biased prosecutor to try and prove there was a conspiracy in the Justice Dept to get Trump. He completely failed at that. The DOJ also had plenty of opportunity to investigate Biden's alleged ties to various corrupt schemes. What makes these true believers think that the House and/or the Senate can accomplish what the DOJ couldn't?

Some troll posts have been removed.

Several off-topic posts have been removed, along with a trolling post.

 

 

 Conway is so right

 

A post citing a disallowed, non news organization social media source has been removed.

 

‘Where’s Nancy?’ How the chilling attack on Pelosi’s husband echoed Jan. 6 insurrection on Capitol Hill

 

San Francisco police arrest Berkeley man with history of online extremism

 

“Where’s Nancy? Where’s Nancy?”

 

The chilling question that the violent home invader reportedly demanded of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband before attacking him with a hammer early Friday is the same one that echoed through the halls of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 when insurrectionists stormed the building.

 

The 2:30 a.m. break-in and bludgeoning at the Pelosis’ Pacific Heights home Friday sent 82-year-old Paul Pelosi into surgery to repair a fractured skull and “serious injuries to his right arm and hands” and, just over a week before the crucial midterm elections, forced Democrats and Republicans alike to ask a distressing question again: How have we come to this?

 

(more)

 

https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/10/28/wheres-nancy-how-the-chilling-attack-on-pelosis-husband-echoed-jan-6-insurrection-on-capitol-hill/

 

Frustrated lawmakers want protection for their families as threats increase

...

Calls for violence against lawmakers online and elsewhere have referenced both elected officials and their families, according to sources familiar with the threat environment who told CNN that law enforcement agencies have been grappling with how to address those threats in the wake of the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

 

In the months following the January 6 insurrection, Capitol Police and other law enforcement agencies worked to increase protection for members of Congress while they are in Washington, DC, and traveling back to their home districts.

However, the security detail for lawmakers, including Pelosi, does not protect their family members, including spouses, when the members of Congress are not with them, according to multiple sources."

 

(more)

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/28/politics/threats-to-us-lawmakers-increasing-pelosi/index.html

 

Accused Pelosi attacker David DePape spread QAnon, other far-right, bigoted conspiracies

...

DePape’s screeds included posts about QAnon, an unfounded theory that former President Trump is at war with a cabal of Satan-worshipping elites who run a child sex ring and control the world.

...

DePape’s daughter, Inti Gonzalez, told The Times that her father wrote the blog. She said that she and her mother were reeling from the news that DePape had been arrested in connection with the attack on Paul Pelosi.

 

“I’m a little shocked,” she said, “but not really that shocked, in all honesty.”

 

(more)

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-10-28/pelosi-attack-suspect-david-depape-shared-conspiracy-theories

 

Trump spent the day complaining on social media while lawmakers of both parties condemned the assault on Pelosi's husband

 

As top politicians on both sides of the aisle came forward to condemn the violent assault on Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, former President Donald Trump took to his social media platform Truth Social to post about an array of topics. Over the course of the day, he complained about his legal issues, attacked a judge, and endorsed Brazil's authoritarian president — without a word about Pelosi or her husband who has been hospitalized.

 

Trump's silence was in stark contrast to other leading Republicans who denounced the assault, which reports suggest may have been politically motivated.

 

(more)

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-silent-on-assault-against-pelosi-husband-gripes-about-legal-woes-2022-10

 

Biden cites Jan. 6 riot chant as he condemns 'despicable' attack on Paul Pelosi

The president, speaking in Pennsylvania, called on Americans to “clearly and unambiguously" stand up against political violence.

 

President Joe Biden on Friday called out the “despicable” attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Paul, directly tying the attacker’s words to rioters’ chants during the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol.

...

“This is despicable. There’s no place in America. There’s too much violence — political violence — too much hatred, too much vitriol,” Biden said. “And what makes us think one party can talk about stolen elections, Covid being a hoax, [that it’s] all a bunch of lies, and it not affect people who may not be so well balanced? What makes us think that it’s not going to alter the political climate? Enough is enough is enough.”

 

(more)

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/28/biden-attack-pelosis-husband-jan-6-riot-00064097

 

16 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Why are these people so gullible? I doubt if even the Thais, with a much lower quality of education, would be so brainless.

Trump and his MAGA followers have often said that they like the "poorly educated" folk in the USA, probably because they readily buy into his nonsense tweets/posts/rantings and lies, so it's not surprising this sort of thing happens because there is no shortage of brainless bogans in that country. 

All desperate attempts to tie this to the Bad Orange Man need to wait until some actual investigation is done.  He does seem to have some, shall we charitably say, mental issues if the reports from people who know him are anything to go by. 

 

The only good news so far is that Mr. Pelosi is expected to make a full recovery. 

10 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

All desperate attempts to tie this to the Bad Orange Man need to wait until some actual investigation is done.  He does seem to have some, shall we charitably say, mental issues if the reports from people who know him are anything to go by. 

 

The only good news so far is that Mr. Pelosi is expected to make a full recovery. 

How is it "desperate"? It's all spread in his social media activity.

The guy is likely nuts, as you suggest, but he's been provided causes on a silver plate by the MAGA world.

Click in at the FOX News website to see how they are playing major news. No headlines that mention the right wing connection. One headline does state, "Suspect in Pelosi attack linked to radical nudist as background emerges."  The FOX spin team is on the ball.

If you do read their actual stories, they do mention right wing connections but no NO, headlines. FOX news audience needs to be protected from these unfortunate truths.

42 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

All desperate attempts to tie this to the Bad Orange Man need to wait until some actual investigation is done.  He does seem to have some, shall we charitably say, mental issues if the reports from people who know him are anything to go by. 

 

Not surprisingly, a lot of the conspiracy theory and right-wing extremist nonsense spouted by the suspect here was also believed by the Jan. 6 Capitol rioters, and many of them ended up also claiming to have mental illnesses. So there seems to be a convergence here.

 

Are QAnon followers mentally ill? 68% of them involved in Capitol riot have been clinically diagnosed, says study

https://meaww.com/most-q-anon-followers-mentally-ill-capitol-riot-68-percent-diagnosed-study-sophia-moskalenko-radicals

 

Jan. 6 rioter gets probation not prison after judge finds autism played a role

U.S. District Court Judge Trevor McFadden concluded that severe mental illness significantly mitigated ‘the blameworthiness’ of the defendant.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/26/jan-6-rioter-gets-probation-not-prison-after-judge-finds-autism-played-a-role-00063588

 

Jan. 6 Defendant Known as QAnon Shaman Sentenced to 41 Months

Mr. Chansley pleaded guilty in September to a single felony count of obstructing an official proceeding before Congress. In court on Wednesday, Mr. Watkins argued for leniency on his behalf saying, among other things, that he had lived for several years with mental illness.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/17/us/politics/qanon-shaman-jan-6-sentenced.html

 

"A man alleged to have taken part in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol Complex was ordered to undergo a mental competency evaluation by a federal judge on Thursday after a series of increasingly bizarre and outrageous in-court outbursts that spiraled out of control — with a reference to former president Donald Trump adding to the mayhem."

https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/fck-all-of-you-alleged-capitol-rioter-faces-mental-health-examination-after-screaming-during-multiple-court-hearings/

 

etc etc....

 

 

28 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

Click in at the FOX News website to see how they are playing major news. No headlines that mention the right wing connection. One headline does state, "Suspect in Pelosi attack linked to radical nudist as background emerges."  The FOX spin team is on the ball.

If you do read their actual stories, they do mention right wing connections but no NO, headlines. FOX news audience needs to be protected from these unfortunate truths.

Right. Fox News is only highlighting the nudist connection (dating from 2013!). ????

 

It's different on the Washington Examiner website.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/david-depape-qanon-trump-paul-pelosi-attack

Edited October 29, 20223 yr by candide

9 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Investigate away Chief Scott, but I suspect we all know what this loons motivations will have been and who inspired them. 

Please tell me his motivations and all that. Oh and a link will do as well.

On 10/29/2022 at 8:31 PM, EVENKEEL said:

Please tell me his motivations and all that. Oh and a link will do as well.

“Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye. shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh. findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.”

 

Matthew 7:7-8

The Bible

 

“It was reported by CNN that the suspect intended to tie the victim up “until Nancy got home” and that he had posted rightwing and conspiracy theories online, including content promoting the lie that Donald Trump was deprived of victory in the 2020 election because of voter fraud.

 

In addition to multiple conspiracy posts on his Facebook account, which was reviewed by CNN and later taken down by Meta on Friday, DePape is also believed to have managed a blog to which he regularly posted screeds concerning the “ruling class”.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/28/paul-pelosi-nancy-pelosi-attack-san-francisco-home?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Edited October 30, 20223 yr by onthedarkside
shortened for fair use

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

“Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye. shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh. findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.”

 

Mathew 7:7-8

The Bible

 

“It was reported by CNN that the suspect intended to tie the victim up “until Nancy got home” and that he had posted rightwing and conspiracy theories online, including content promoting the lie that Donald Trump was deprived of victory in the 2020 election because of voter fraud.

 

In a statement to CNN, an acquaintance of DePape’s said he appeared to be “out of touch with reality”. Two of the suspect’s relatives also told the network that DePape, who grew up in British Columbia, Canada, was estranged from his family.

 

In addition to multiple conspiracy posts on his Facebook account, which was reviewed by CNN and later taken down by Meta on Friday, DePape is also believed to have managed a blog to which he regularly posted screeds concerning the “ruling class”. The blog, which the San Francisco Chronicle reviewed and was later taken down, had a banner that said “Welcome to Big Brothers Censorship Hell”, along with numerous conspiracy posts about the government, media outlets and tech companies.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/28/paul-pelosi-nancy-pelosi-attack-san-francisco-home?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

So basically he's a homeless nutjob mentally ill guy from Canada. But I understand the liberals wanting to milk this one so close to mid terms.

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

So basically he's a homeless nutjob mentally ill guy from Canada. But I understand the liberals wanting to milk this one so close to mid terms.

Spin it however you like. 
 

You asked you got.