Why is the UK struggling more than other countries?

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A lot of poor people seem to have plenty of money to buy cigarettes and  booze. I live with a load of young unemployed people ( strangely they seem capable of work but choose not to, even though plenty of unskilled jobs locally available ). Never short of a can of booze or a ciggie. Nice life though- party on.

So now you're using NZ examples to show the UK is doing ok.

[Phoenix Rising]

Merry Christmas Brexiteers..........not.

 

 

Brexit has cracked Britain’s economic foundations

[Phoenix Rising]

More Brexit fallout.

 

‘Life or death.’ As Britons buckle under the cost of living crisis, many resort to ‘warm banks’ for heat this winter

 

"“We look the worst in G7 countries, we’re the only one in terms of recovery … that hasn’t gone back to where we were pre-pandemic."

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

More Brexit fallout.

 

‘Life or death.’ As Britons buckle under the cost of living crisis, many resort to ‘warm banks’ for heat this winter

 

"“We look the worst in G7 countries, we’re the only one in terms of recovery … that hasn’t gone back to where we were pre-pandemic."

Thought you was on strike. ????

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

More Brexit fallout.

 

‘Life or death.’ As Britons buckle under the cost of living crisis, many resort to ‘warm banks’ for heat this winter

 

 

People complaining because they cannot put the heating on at home and having to use blankets to keep warm .

   What a hard life these people are living , having to wear clothes at home instead of walking around in shorts and T-shirt and turning the heating on  like they are the tropics .

   BTW , I do have an anecdotal story about that . but I am not going to write it as I will be accused of lying again , so I will not post it 

[stevenl]

17 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

People complaining because they cannot put the heating on at home and having to use blankets to keep warm .

   What a hard life these people are living , having to wear clothes at home instead of walking around in shorts and T-shirt and turning the heating on  like they are the tropics .

   BTW , I do have an anecdotal story about that . but I am not going to write it as I will be accused of lying again , so I will not post it 

Why do you feel the need to put down people who can't afford heating their home anymore so resort to sitting under blankets?

[Bluespunk]

19 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

People complaining because they cannot put the heating on at home and having to use blankets to keep warm .

   What a hard life these people are living , having to wear clothes at home instead of walking around in shorts and T-shirt and turning the heating on  like they are the tropics .

   BTW , I do have an anecdotal story about that . but I am not going to write it as I will be accused of lying again , so I will not post it 

It is ironic that, at this time of year, that the lessons of the Charles Dickens Christmas classic have still not been learnt by some. 
 

“These are garments, Mr. Cratchit. Garments were invented by the human race as a protection against the cold. Once purchased, they may be used indefinitely for the purpose for which they are intended.”

 

Scrooge

 

A Christmas Carol

 

Charles Dickens 

Edited December 25, 2022 by Bluespunk

[youreavinalaff]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Why do you feel the need to put down people who can't afford heating their home anymore so resort to sitting under blankets?

I don't believe he was.

 

His post is suggesting it is normal behavior to wear warm clothing at home instead of having heating on or too high.

 

That is certainly what I do even though I don't have to.

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Why do you feel the need to put down people who can't afford heating their home anymore so resort to sitting under blankets?

I wasn't putting down people who cannot afford to heat their homes , I was commenting on the people who complain about having to keep warm by wearing clothes and not being able to use the heating  . The people who feel they should have heated homes and shouldn't need to wear warm clothes , is the people I referred to 

   

[Bluespunk]

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I wasn't putting down people who cannot afford to heat their homes

Yes you were. 
 

5 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

People complaining because they cannot put the heating on at home and having to use blankets to keep warm .

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

I don't believe he was.

 

His post is suggesting it is normal behavior to wear warm clothing at home instead of having heating on or too high.

 

That is certainly what I do even though I don't have to.

 

 

Customers have been given money to help with utility bills direct from the supplier . 

  I didnt get a meter reading or pay a gas bill for the whole of 2022 , (the estimated bills were addressed to someone else and so I didn't open them ) , a guy from the gas company then came to visit to take a reading and I got a gas bill for the whole year......................and I am 800 Pounds in credit .

  The gas company has credited my account with money for the gas bill and after personal usage , I am 800 Quid in credit for the year

[youreavinalaff]

49 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Yes you were. 
 

 

You had to crop his post to try and make a point.

 

Had you quoted his whole post it would've been plain to see he wasn't doing what you accused him of.

[Bluespunk]

34 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

You had to crop his post to try and make a point.

 

Had you quoted his whole post it would've been plain to see he wasn't doing what you accused him of.

No.
 

They said what they said.
 

They may argue they then qualified it (I’d disagree) but they still said it. 
 

Edit: to make you happy here is the comment (I’ve ignored the waffle about anecdotes) where such criticism was made. 

 

“People complaining because they cannot put the heating on at home and having to use blankets to keep warm .

 
What a hard life these people are living, having to wear clothes at home instead of walking around in shorts and T-shirt and turning the heating on  like they are the tropics”

 

That is still having a pop at people who cannot afford to turn on the heating. 

Edited December 25, 2022 by Bluespunk
Typo

[Credo]

Well, it seems that there is a reason for why the UK is struggling.  It's been posted here:

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1281598-brexit-has-cracked-britain’s-economic-foundations/

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

8 hours ago, stevenl said:

Why do you feel the need to put down people who can't afford heating their home anymore so resort to sitting under blankets?

I have no sympathy for anyone who complains about having to wear clothes in keep warm in their house when the simple solution is to wear more clothes and that will keep them warm .

   I never put the heating on in my house and just wear more clothes to keep warm when its cold .

   Its not anyone's human right to be able to sit and watch telly wearing shorts and a T-shirt in mid winter , just put some tracksuit bottoms and and wear  hoodie and you wont get cold .

   Whatever next ?

People complaining about food  banks being too far away and could they make home deliveries ?

[youreavinalaff]

9 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I have no sympathy for anyone who complains about having to wear clothes in keep warm in their house when the simple solution is to wear more clothes and that will keep them warm .

   I never put the heating on in my house and just wear more clothes to keep warm when its cold .

   Its not anyone's human right to be able to sit and watch telly wearing shorts and a T-shirt in mid winter , just put some tracksuit bottoms and and wear  hoodie and you wont get cold .

   Whatever next ?

People complaining about food  banks being too far away and could they make home deliveries ?

I agree.

 

We've not had the heating on in the 2 years we've live in our current flat as we've never felt too cold.

 

Our energy direct debit is £67 a month. We are currently £208 in credit. Add to that the £66 a month we've been receiving as support, our energy bills are next to nothing. 

[Scott]

An inflammatory post has been removed.  

[Phoenix Rising]

15 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I wasn't putting down people who cannot afford to heat their homes , I was commenting on the people who complain about having to keep warm by wearing clothes and not being able to use the heating  . The people who feel they should have heated homes and shouldn't need to wear warm clothes , is the people I referred to 

   

Oh, those horrible wretched people! Don't they understand that heated homes is a luxury!?!?

[Phoenix Rising]

8 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I have no sympathy for anyone who complains about having to wear clothes in keep warm in their house when the simple solution is to wear more clothes and that will keep them warm .

   I never put the heating on in my house and just wear more clothes to keep warm when its cold .

   Its not anyone's human right to be able to sit and watch telly wearing shorts and a T-shirt in mid winter , just put some tracksuit bottoms and and wear  hoodie and you wont get cold .

   Whatever next ?

People complaining about food  banks being too far away and could they make home deliveries ?

Yes. People complaining they don't have enough money to feed their families and have to resort to food banks! What, do they think it's a human right to eat just because they're hungry??

I'm sure they'll be first in line when the food aid packages from EU start arriving, the b******s!

Edited December 26, 2022 by Phoenix Rising

[Phoenix Rising]

10 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

You had to crop his post to try and make a point.

 

Had you quoted his whole post it would've been plain to see he wasn't doing what you accused him of.

Said the guy who just cropped the post he was replying to......

[youreavinalaff]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Said the guy who just cropped the post he was replying to......

I did, yes. 

 

Bur, i didn't leave out any information that would contradict what I said.

 

Please read the whole post before commenting.

[puchooay]

2 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Yes. People complaining they don't have enough money to feed their families and have to resort to food banks! What, do they think it's a human right to eat just because they're hungry??

I'm sure they'll be first in line when the food aid packages from EU start arriving, the b******s!

You seem to have missed the point of the post you quoted.

[youreavinalaff]

12 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

No.
 

They said what they said.
 

They may argue they then qualified it (I’d disagree) but they still said it. 
 

Edit: to make you happy here is the comment (I’ve ignored the waffle about anecdotes) where such criticism was made. 

 

“People complaining because they cannot put the heating on at home and having to use blankets to keep warm .

 
What a hard life these people are living, having to wear clothes at home instead of walking around in shorts and T-shirt and turning the heating on  like they are the tropics”

 

That is still having a pop at people who cannot afford to turn on the heating. 

It seems it is actually having a pop at those who won't help themselves.

 

The sarcasm in the post shows that to anyone who does not suffer from selective reading syndrome.

[vinny41]

2 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Yes. People complaining they don't have enough money to feed their families and have to resort to food banks! What, do they think it's a human right to eat just because they're hungry??

I'm sure they'll be first in line when the food aid packages from EU start arriving, the b******s!

When the EU going to start sending food aid packages to the 6 million EU nationals living in the UK

[Bluespunk]

Just now, youreavinalaff said:

It seems it is actually having a pop at those who won't help themselves.

 

The sarcasm in the post shows that to anyone who does not suffer from selective reading syndrome.

No. The post was clear and typical of this poster. 

[Phoenix Rising]

7 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

When the EU going to start sending food aid packages to the 6 million EU nationals living in the UK

Yes, because if those guys leave it's lights out in the UK.

[vinny41]

3 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Yes, because if those guys leave it's lights out in the UK.

So I assume that's a NO then the EU will not be sending food aid packages to the 6 million EU nationals living in the UK

[youreavinalaff]

23 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

No. The post was clear and typical of this poster

I agree. Perfectly clear.

[hotandsticky]

18 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

I don't believe he was.

 

His post is suggesting it is normal behavior to wear warm clothing at home instead of having heating on or too high.

 

That is certainly what I do even though I don't have to.

 

 

 

Buriram can get quite chilly…

[sandyf]

On 12/25/2022 at 9:22 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

What else would an opposition politician say.

If the car industry can't sell cars it's could be for any number of reasons eg they are rubbish or too expensive.

Or they can't get the parts because of brexit, obviously not a reason you want to recognise.