Scott Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 Fox News devoted much of its airtime prior to last week’s midterm elections to violent crime, usually by tying criminal violence to “Democratic cities” and progressive policies. The conservative cable giant, however, has pulled back on much of that coverage in the immediate aftermath of the GOP’s lackluster election performance, which did not result in the “red tsunami” many on the network had promised. According to a study by liberal watchdog Media Matters, the network has devoted roughly half of its on-air segments to violent crime compared to the pre-election period. https://news.yahoo.com/surprise-fox-news-violent-crime-213006504.html 1
ozimoron Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 It's strange that these foibles are peculiar to right wing sites. I'm not aware that any left leaning sites are subject to this kind of foible. Are they less impressionable? There has to be something there. Fox seems to change tack with the breeze. I can't image why people are so obsessed with the outrage industry. 1
bendejo Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 Heard some news analyst types the other day talking about how there are a lot of people who watch DT and the antics of the MAGA carnival as reality-show type entertainment, but this in no way implies that such viewers would vote for any of those clowns. For those who haven't seen the movie Network (1976) check it out: a veteran TV anchorman flips out while doing the news, and the success of it turns the network into a freak show. It was a satire when it came out, but not any more. Fox and the GOP are pushing for the prosecution of the 1/6 riot to be seen merely as Dem partisanship. Pence, who should be the torch-bearer against the rabble is parroting the party line. The House Jan. 6 committee on Wednesday pushed back on former Vice President Mike Pence after he described the panel as “partisan” during an interview with CBS that aired earlier in the day. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3739275-jan-6-panel-hits-back-at-pence-over-new-interview/ Fox and the GOP: which is the tail, and which is the dog? 2
SunnyinBangrak Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 4 hours ago, ozimoron said: It's strange that these foibles are peculiar to right wing sites. I'm not aware that any left leaning sites are subject to this kind of foible. Are they less impressionable? There has to be something there. Fox seems to change tack with the breeze. I can't image why people are so obsessed with the outrage industry. Both sides do it equally. For example "fact-checking under President Trump was a bustling business. Seemingly every day, and sometimes by the hour, the 45th president’s every word was scrutinized, which all comes with the job. But under President Biden, fact checkers are enjoying what feels like extended vacations or have simply checked out in terms of scrutinizing the many ways that he is misleading the public." https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3647706-why-has-fact-checking-disappeared-under-biden/ or https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-cnn-torn-apart-over-embarrassing-caption/O3B3JY7YNUIJXROLHX63MQPE2M/ It's called bias. Every media outlet has it to some degree. Interesting that Fox is singled out, they are no where near the worst at it. 1 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted November 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Both sides do it equally. For example "fact-checking under President Trump was a bustling business. Seemingly every day, and sometimes by the hour, the 45th president’s every word was scrutinized, which all comes with the job. But under President Biden, fact checkers are enjoying what feels like extended vacations or have simply checked out in terms of scrutinizing the many ways that he is misleading the public." https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3647706-why-has-fact-checking-disappeared-under-biden/ or https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-cnn-torn-apart-over-embarrassing-caption/O3B3JY7YNUIJXROLHX63MQPE2M/ It's called bias. Every media outlet has it to some degree. Interesting that Fox is singled out, they are no where near the worst at it. My question was about "outrage", not fact checking. Fox are singularly notable and bad for this. But I will say, Trump is far, far, far, worse and more prolific liar than Biden. No politician is free from lies or mistruths but Biden is not guilty of telling an average over of 7,000 lies per year. Trump told over 30,000 documented lies in 4 years and his relection launch speech was particularly egregious BS. Furthermore, the article you quoted in The Hill (the other article is from an unapproved source) was clearly labelled "OPINION". 2 2
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted November 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, ozimoron said: My question was about "outrage", not fact checking. Fox are singularly notable and bad for this. But I will say, Trump is far, far, far, worse and more prolific liar than Biden. No politician is free from lies or mistruths but Biden is not guilty of telling an average over of 7,000 lies per year. Trump told over 30,000 documented lies in 4 years and his relection launch speech was particularly egregious BS. No. He really did not. It is a popular conspiracy theory among the left, who have been conditioned by their MSM outrage reporting to blindly swallow ridiculous claims like this without question. The 30,000 lie claim has been comprehensively debunked as many of the claims were true( I would normally include a link easily and with humour debunking a few of the prominent "lies", yet it has been getting removed recently, so I will not bother. I would also say his "lies" such as remembering the weather wrong on inauguration day were not self serving intentional lies, such as dishonestly denying evidence of corruption. 3
Popular Post ozimoron Posted November 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: No. He really did not. It is a popular conspiracy theory among the left, who have been conditioned by their MSM outrage reporting to blindly swallow ridiculous claims like this without question. The 30,000 lie claim has been comprehensively debunked as many of the claims were true( I would normally include a link easily and with humour debunking a few of the prominent "lies", yet it has been getting removed recently, so I will not bother. I would also say his "lies" such as remembering the weather wrong on inauguration day were not self serving intentional lies, such as dishonestly denying evidence of corruption. Show us where they were debunked and by whom. There are many media outlets which claim they were lies. The thing about lies is they can be fact checked. It's preposterous to claim Trump was not an habitual liar. The reason links are removed are that they are lies from a source known to lie. Don't come here saying "I would post a link but". Either conform to the rules of good faith debate or hold your peace. Here's an article from a source you are happy to quote from (me too). “Please don’t spread lies to foment or encourage political violence in our state. Or anywhere. Thanks,” Benson tweeted. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3725952-michigan-secretary-of-state-blasts-trump-over-electoral-lies-that-might-lead-to-violence/ 4 1
candide Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Both sides do it equally. For example "fact-checking under President Trump was a bustling business. Seemingly every day, and sometimes by the hour, the 45th president’s every word was scrutinized, which all comes with the job. But under President Biden, fact checkers are enjoying what feels like extended vacations or have simply checked out in terms of scrutinizing the many ways that he is misleading the public." https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3647706-why-has-fact-checking-disappeared-under-biden/ or https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-cnn-torn-apart-over-embarrassing-caption/O3B3JY7YNUIJXROLHX63MQPE2M/ It's called bias. Every media outlet has it to some degree. Interesting that Fox is singled out, they are no where near the worst at it. More lies, more B.S., more checks! It's simple!
ozimoron Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 Smith, a prosecutor since 1994, has a stellar resumé that includes spearheading the pursuit of possible war criminals at the special court in The Hague. He is unlikely to be unnerved by Trump. And that could be bad news, legally and politically, for the former president. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3742565-the-memo-trump-and-garland-go-to-war-on-special-counsel/ 2
Scott Posted November 19, 2022 Author Posted November 19, 2022 Posts removed. Stay on topic or face a suspension.
placeholder Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Both sides do it equally. For example "fact-checking under President Trump was a bustling business. Seemingly every day, and sometimes by the hour, the 45th president’s every word was scrutinized, which all comes with the job. But under President Biden, fact checkers are enjoying what feels like extended vacations or have simply checked out in terms of scrutinizing the many ways that he is misleading the public." https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3647706-why-has-fact-checking-disappeared-under-biden/ or https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-cnn-torn-apart-over-embarrassing-caption/O3B3JY7YNUIJXROLHX63MQPE2M/ It's called bias. Every media outlet has it to some degree. Interesting that Fox is singled out, they are no where near the worst at it. Really? https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?category=&ruling=false&speaker=joe-biden Fact check: A look at Biden’s first year in false claims https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics/fact-check-biden-false-claims-first-year-2021/index.html Fact-checkers suddenly rip into President Biden heading into midterms CNN fact-checked 9 claims the president has made in recent appearances https://www.foxnews.com/media/fact-checkers-suddenly-rip-president-biden-heading-midterms The false and misleading claims President Biden made during his first 100 days in office https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/biden-fact-checker-100-days/ A Bottomless Pinocchio for Biden — and other recent gaffes https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/07/bottomless-pinocchio-biden-other-recent-gaffes/ 1
placeholder Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: No. He really did not. It is a popular conspiracy theory among the left, who have been conditioned by their MSM outrage reporting to blindly swallow ridiculous claims like this without question. The 30,000 lie claim has been comprehensively debunked as many of the claims were true( I would normally include a link easily and with humour debunking a few of the prominent "lies", yet it has been getting removed recently, so I will not bother. I would also say his "lies" such as remembering the weather wrong on inauguration day were not self serving intentional lies, such as dishonestly denying evidence of corruption. Yes, that's what people remember about his election day lies. It was the one about the weather, not about the size of the crowd. Another post from an alternate universe. 2
Chomper Higgot Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Both sides do it equally. For example "fact-checking under President Trump was a bustling business. Seemingly every day, and sometimes by the hour, the 45th president’s every word was scrutinized, which all comes with the job. But under President Biden, fact checkers are enjoying what feels like extended vacations or have simply checked out in terms of scrutinizing the many ways that he is misleading the public." https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3647706-why-has-fact-checking-disappeared-under-biden/ or https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-cnn-torn-apart-over-embarrassing-caption/O3B3JY7YNUIJXROLHX63MQPE2M/ It's called bias. Every media outlet has it to some degree. Interesting that Fox is singled out, they are no where near the worst at it. Trump was posting lies dozens of times per day. Biden has returned to past practice of the President making infrequent formal announcements. 2
placeholder Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Trump was posting lies dozens of times per day. Biden has returned to past practice of the President making infrequent formal announcements. In Trump's candidacy speech in Florida he was caught out in several lies. In just one speech!
heybruce Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 10 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Both sides do it equally. For example "fact-checking under President Trump was a bustling business. Seemingly every day, and sometimes by the hour, the 45th president’s every word was scrutinized, which all comes with the job. But under President Biden, fact checkers are enjoying what feels like extended vacations or have simply checked out in terms of scrutinizing the many ways that he is misleading the public." https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3647706-why-has-fact-checking-disappeared-under-biden/ or https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-cnn-torn-apart-over-embarrassing-caption/O3B3JY7YNUIJXROLHX63MQPE2M/ It's called bias. Every media outlet has it to some degree. Interesting that Fox is singled out, they are no where near the worst at it. Your first source is an opinion piece, easily refuted by doing an internet search using the words "president biden fact check". Your second source is not relevant to the topic. 1
placeholder Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 58 minutes ago, heybruce said: Your first source is an opinion piece, easily refuted by doing an internet search using the words "president biden fact check". Your second source is not relevant to the topic. It's funny. In answer to SunnyinBangrak's claims one of the links I posted was to a Fox News report that said before the 2022 elections CNN produced a flurry of fact checks calling out misinformation Biden. Oddly enough, he didn't thank me for locating that.
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