Popular Post Scott Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 Former US President Donald Trump’s Twitter account has been reinstated on the platform. The account, which Twitter banned following the January 6 attack on the Capitol, was restored after Twitter CEO Elon Musk posted a poll on Twitter on Friday night asking the platform’s users if Trump should be reinstated. “The people have spoken. Trump will be reinstated,” Twitter’s new owner Elon Musk tweeted Saturday night. https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/19/business/twitter-musk-trump-reinstate/index.html 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 From the linked article: NAACP President Derrick Johnson “If Elon Musk continues to run Twitter like this, using garbage polls that do not represent the American people and the needs of our democracy, God help us all.” 8 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mickeymaus Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: From the linked article: NAACP President Derrick Johnson “If Elon Musk continues to run Twitter like this, using garbage polls that do not represent the American people and the needs of our democracy, God help us all.” Not that I like Trump. Not at all. But where is the problem?! In a democracy everyone can decide which tweets he wants to read. Derrick Johnson has a very strange understanding of democracy... 8 4 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Mickeymaus said: Not that I like Trump. Not at all. But where is the problem?! In a democracy everyone can decide which tweets he wants to read. Derrick Johnson has a very strange understanding of democracy... I read faster, are they going to warn me not to read hate speech? Are the victims of that hate speech meant to ignore it? 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post ozimoron Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 My prediction is that Musk will buy Truth Social and bury it in order to poach it's tech staff and resolve any conflict Trump has over his twitter account. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Apparently Trump has a contract with Trump Social that would prevent him making posts on Twitter. But based on past performance Trump will probably ignore the contract and any litigation that may come from it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) This just isn't going to fly with many advertisers who know they will be fingered by liberals. There aren't enough pillows in the world to keep the revenue going. He explained that a tweet deemed to be “negative” or to include “hate” would be allowed on the site but would be visible only to users who specifically searched for it. Such tweets also would be “demonetized, so no ads or other revenue to Twitter,” Musk said. https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-biden-twitter-inc-technology-congress-d88e3de4b3cc095926dc133f53dc3320?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_02 Edited November 20, 2022 by ozimoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Thailand said: Apparently Trump has a contract with Trump Social that would prevent him making posts on Twitter. But based on past performance Trump will probably ignore the contract and any litigation that may come from it. That won't matter much if they merge or Musk buys it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mickeymaus said: Not that I like Trump. Not at all. But where is the problem?! In a democracy everyone can decide which tweets he wants to read. Derrick Johnson has a very strange understanding of democracy... He wasn't referring to someone reading a tweet, that's a whole different ball game. He was referring to the implications that this poll confirmed Musk's decision to reinstate Trump on the twitter platform, evidenced by him doing just that as soon as he closed the poll. His reference was clearly: garbage polls that do not represent the American people Surely you know twitter polls are open for the whole world to vote on, you know that even according to Musk most of his followers are bots, you know that only a tiny proportion of twitter users are verified, anyone can open an account with no ID. He was correct, it was a garbage vote and not democratic 4 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 My guess would be a move out of desperation. I don't agree with giving his lies a platform. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: He wasn't referring to someone reading a tweet, that's a whole different ball game. He was referring to the implications that this poll confirmed Musk's decision to reinstate Trump on the twitter platform, evidenced by him doing just that as soon as he closed the poll. His reference was clearly: garbage polls that do not represent the American people Surely you know twitter polls are open for the whole world to vote on, you know that even according to Musk most of his followers are bots, you know that only a tiny proportion of twitter users are verified, anyone can open an account with no ID. He was correct, it was a garbage vote and not democratic It's fair that the poll was international as twitter's audience is but that just makes the result less believable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, ozimoron said: This just isn't going to fly with many advertisers who know they will be fingered by liberals. There aren't enough pillows in the world to keep the revenue going. He explained that a tweet deemed to be “negative” or to include “hate” would be allowed on the site but would be visible only to users who specifically searched for it. Such tweets also would be “demonetized, so no ads or other revenue to Twitter,” Musk said. Seeing as his old Tweets are reinstated, any concerned advertizer can scroll through and quickly determine Trump did NOT attempt a coup and use his Twitter account to facilitate. Perhaps some of the Jan6th experts can point out the awful Tweets that forced Twiiter to censor a sitting President while allowing the taliban account to run? 2 2 1 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Seeing as his old Tweets are reinstated, any concerned advertizer can scroll through and quickly determine Trump did NOT attempt a coup and use his Twitter account to facilitate. Perhaps some of the Jan6th experts can point out the awful Tweets that forced Twiiter to censor a sitting President while allowing the taliban account to run? That's your opinion. Advertiser's won't care if the election was stolen or not, they will look at their corporate reputation. GM suspended advertising on the platform moments after Musk bought it. Watch what happens now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sparktrader Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: From the linked article: NAACP President Derrick Johnson “If Elon Musk continues to run Twitter like this, using garbage polls that do not represent the American people and the needs of our democracy, God help us all.” Free speech is only bad to fascists. 5 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Seeing as his old Tweets are reinstated, any concerned advertizer can scroll through and quickly determine Trump did NOT attempt a coup and use his Twitter account to facilitate. Perhaps some of the Jan6th experts can point out the awful Tweets that forced Twiiter to censor a sitting President while allowing the taliban account to run? Concerned advertisers now have access to his numerous tweets that were flagged with fact checks on 6th Jan...........mmmmmmmm 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Sparktrader said: Free speech is only bad to fascists. Whats free speech got to do with his statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sparktrader Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 33 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I read faster, are they going to warn me not to read hate speech? Are the victims of that hate speech meant to ignore it? Hate speech like your hate for Trump? 9 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, Thailand said: Apparently Trump has a contract with Trump Social that would prevent him making posts on Twitter. But based on past performance Trump will probably ignore the contract and any litigation that may come from it. Doesnt he own it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Hate speech like your hate for Trump? Hate speech attacks minorities, not individuals. You're confused. 4 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Sparktrader said: Doesnt he own it? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sparktrader Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, ozimoron said: Exactly one country in the western world doesn't ban hate speech. Hating on Trump is hate speech. 6 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Sparktrader said: Hating on Trump is hate speech. Willful inability to comprehend the English language. In common language, “hate speech” refers to offensive discourse targeting a group or an individual based on inherent characteristics (such as race, religion or gender) and that may threaten social peace. https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/what-is-hate-speech 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sparktrader Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Willful inability to comprehend the English language. In common language, “hate speech” refers to offensive discourse targeting a group or an individual based on inherent characteristics (such as race, religion or gender) and that may threaten social peace. https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/what-is-hate-speech You are full of hate. Please stop quoting me. Waste of time talking to someone who is so negative. Goodbye. 5 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Sparktrader said: You are full of hate. Please stop quoting me. Waste of time talking to someone who is so negative. Goodbye. Expect me to help prevent this site from becoming a platform for hate speech and intolerance. If that doesn't succeed, I'm out of here and you can have it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sparktrader Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/03/12/the-free-speech-crisis-is-not-a-right-wing-myth/ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 IMO it doesn't really matter, with his actions since buying Twitter it looks like Musk is going to consign it to oblivion anyway. Staff are deserting in droves, probably advertisers will too. The world is probably anesthetized to Trump's tweets, except for his following of knuckle-draggers. Perhaps Musk should stick to his knitting, IIRC Henry Ford lost millions on Brazilian plantations. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mickeymaus Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 Americans are strange people. They allow Trump to be President with tremendous military and economic power. But they don't allow him to post on Twitter. Again - I am not a "friend" of him but this is hard to understand... If he is not capable of using Twitter in a normal way why was he ever allowed to be President??? Will look out of the window to check if a "democratic" missile is on its way to me already... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat is a type of crazy Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: That won't matter much if they merge or Musk buys it. If Musk paid $1 for Truth Social I think that would be a step too far for many Twitter users. Benefitting someone who attempted to overturn democratic elections and giving them a bigger mouthpiece. I don't mind him having access to Twitter but there was a fairly compelling argument the other way around January 6 2020. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Hating on Trump is hate speech. Not unless it attacks Trump on the basis of his race, gender, sexual orientation, religion or disability it’s not. Just like your own hating on the left wing is not hate speech. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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