January 6 committee considers criminal referrals for at least 4 others besides Trump

[Scott]

 

The House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, insurrection is considering criminal referrals for at least four individuals in addition to former President Donald Trump, multiple sources told CNN.

The panel is weighing criminal referrals for former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, right wing lawyer John Eastman, former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark and Trump’s former lawyer Rudy Giuliani, the sources said.

The committee has not officially decided whom to refer to the Justice Department for prosecution and for what offenses, sources said.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/politics/january-6-committee-criminal-referrals/index.html

[EVENKEEL]

Snappy headlines but............

 

While the criminal referrals would largely be symbolic in nature – as the DOJ has already undertaken a sprawling investigation into the US Capitol attack and efforts to overturn the 2020 election – committee members have stressed that the move serves as a way to document their views for the record.

Edited December 9, 2022 by EVENKEEL

[Chomper Higgot]

46 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Snappy headlines but............

 

While the criminal referrals would largely be symbolic in nature – as the DOJ has already undertaken a sprawling investigation into the US Capitol attack and efforts to overturn the 2020 election – committee members have stressed that the move serves as a way to document their views for the record.

The purpose of the Congressional Investigation is to get evidence, testimony and/or perjury on record and to inform the public of the matters under investigation.

 

Criminal prosecution is always by the DOJ and always subject to indictments being handed down by Grand Jury.

The DOJ are on it.

 

Jack be nimble, Jack be quick…

[EVENKEEL]

34 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The purpose of the Congressional Investigation is to get evidence, testimony and/or perjury on record and to inform the public of the matters under investigation.

 

Criminal prosecution is always by the DOJ and always subject to indictments being handed down by Grand Jury.

The DOJ are on it.

 

Jack be nimble, Jack be quick…

The first sentence of article says it all..........symbolic.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The first sentence of article says it all..........symbolic.

Yes, and I explained, the power of prosecution resides with the DOJ.

 

Jack be nimble, Jack be quick….

 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[ozimoron]

Eastman, Clark, Guiliani and Meadows will join Trump in the dock.

[ozimoron]

CNN are reporting that the DoJ has recommended contempt charges for Trump over the documents subpoena.

[Pattaya Spotter]

They gotta do something after wasting tens of millions of taxpayer's money on their dog and pony show and b3fore the GOP tosses all their "findings" in the trash bin when they take over in January.

 

[Berkshire]

1 minute ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

They gotta do something after wasting tens of millions of taxpayer's money on their dog and pony show and b3fore the GOP tosses all their "findings" in the trash bin when they take over in January.

 

Doesn't matter what the GOP House does, the report is on record in its entirety.  We will all see it, as well as the DOJ.

[Pattaya Spotter]

13 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Doesn't matter what the GOP House does, the report is on record in its entirety.  We will all see it, as well as the DOJ.

A Democrat Party report (full of half-truths and speculation) that half the country will ignore; and that will get a fine-tooth going over by the relevant House committees in the next Congress. 

[Berkshire]

1 minute ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

A Democrat Party report (full of half-truths and speculation) that half the country will ignore; and that will get a fine-tooth going over by the relevant House committees in the next Congress. 

You make it sound like the Republicans in the House have it all in order and they certainly do not.  They're in total disarray.  They don't even know who their Speaker will be.  My bet is on Liz Cheney.....5555 

[candide]

2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

A Democrat Party report (full of half-truths and speculation) that half the country will ignore; and that will get a fine-tooth going over by the relevant House committees in the next Congress. 

A report displaying plenty of evidence: testimonies under oath (mainly by Republicans), documents, messages, recordings, etc...

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, Berkshire said:

You make it sound like the Republicans in the House have it all in order and they certainly do not.  They're in total disarray.  They don't even know who their Speaker will be.  My bet is on Liz Cheney.....5555 

Liz lost in the election. I'd like to see how you think she can be speaker, or do they not have to be sitting members of Congress?

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

They gotta do something after wasting tens of millions of taxpayer's money on their dog and pony show and b3fore the GOP tosses all their "findings" in the trash bin when they take over in January.

 

Yeah, this is just them ranting before being consigned to insignificance on the opposition benches.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, Berkshire said:

You make it sound like the Republicans in the House have it all in order and they certainly do not.  They're in total disarray.  They don't even know who their Speaker will be.  My bet is on Liz Cheney.....5555 

So what? They are not Democrats, so that's all right then. It'll get sorted eventually.

[Berkshire]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Liz lost in the election. I'd like to see how you think she can be speaker, or do they not have to be sitting members of Congress?

5555....thought you would know that the Speaker does not have to be a member of Congress.  That's why Trump's name has been brought up as potential Speaker.  You should also know that all members will be voting for Speaker, not just the majority.  So technically, a Democrat could be Speaker if the Republicans don't get their act together. 

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Berkshire said:

5555....thought you would know that the Speaker does not have to be a member of Congress.  That's why Trump's name has been brought up as potential Speaker.  You should also know that all members will be voting for Speaker, not just the majority.  So technically, a Democrat could be Speaker if the Republicans don't get their act together. 

OK, but why would I know that? I'm not American and in the British parliamentary system the speaker is from the ruling party.

 

I looked it up. Bolding is mine.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

The Constitution does not require the speaker to be an incumbent member of the House of Representatives, although every speaker thus far has been.

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

OK, but why would I know that? I'm not American and in the British parliamentary system the speaker is from the ruling party.

 

I looked it up. Bolding is mine.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

The Constitution does not require the speaker to be an incumbent member of the House of Representatives, although every speaker thus far has been.

Do not use bold. I recently noticed it is against the rules. 

[Pattaya Spotter]

21 hours ago, Berkshire said:

You make it sound like the Republicans in the House have it all in order and they certainly do not.  They're in total disarray.  They don't even know who their Speaker will be.  My bet is on Liz Cheney.....5555 

I'd take that bet ????

[Pattaya Spotter]

18 hours ago, candide said:

A report displaying plenty of evidence: testimonies under oath (mainly by Republicans), documents, messages, recordings, etc...

Exactly...many of these witnesses will be facing perjury investigations by the next House ???? 

[Pattaya Spotter]

17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Yeah, this is just them ranting before being consigned to insignificance on the opposition benches.

The "opposition benches" of a House majority and a now 50/50 Senate...got it ????????????

[Berkshire]

8 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The "opposition benches" of a House majority and a now 50/50 Senate...got it ????????????

It's still a 51/49 Senate.  Sinema is an (I) and will caucus with the Dems, just like Bernie and Angus.

[BangkokReady]

Where is the BLM Riots Committee?

[placeholder]

28 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The "opposition benches" of a House majority and a now 50/50 Senate...got it ????????????

The Senate is now 50/50? Math challenged much?

[Pattaya Spotter]

20 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

It's still a 51/49 Senate.  Sinema is an (I) and will caucus with the Dems, just like Bernie and Angus.

And Manchin will caucus with the Repubs ????????????

[Pattaya Spotter]

15 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Where is the BLM Riots Committee?

It's coming ????

[ozimoron]

52 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

It's coming ????

Dems aren't concerned. Unlike the Jan 6 riots, any BLM riots they like to investigate weren't to overthrow an election or anything to do with the dems. All that could be uncovered would a crime of some sort which wouldn't be political.

 

The police have already charged hundreds of rioters anyway so there's really nothing to see here except right wing conspiracy theories.

 

I hope they have a commission into pizzagate to own the libs once and for all ????

Edited December 10, 2022 by ozimoron

[EVENKEEL]

22 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Dems aren't concerned. Unlike the Jan 6 riots, any BLM riots they like to investigate weren't to overthrow an election or anything to do with the dems. All that could be uncovered would a crime of some sort which wouldn't be political.

 

The police have already charged hundreds of rioters anyway so there's really nothing to see here except right wing conspiracy theories.

 

I hope they have a commission into pizzagate to own the libs once and for all ????

Uturn out of the rabbit hole.

[Phoenix Rising]

3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Uturn out of the rabbit hole.

I'm happy on your behalf, well done and welcome back to the real world!

[candide]

5 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Exactly...many of these witnesses will be facing perjury investigations by the next House ???? 

That would be great! I can imagine Republicans investigating other Republicans about perjury for declaring that elections were not rigged! 

I would like to watch Barr: "Mr Barr did you commit a perjury when you told Trump that elections have not been rigged?" Barr: "That's B.S.!" ????