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Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) Still in Putin's pocket. "Zelensky is basically an ungrateful international welfare queen," Donald Trump Jr. tweeted Wednesday. https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-bash-zelensky-appeal-aid-welfare-queen-1768868 Edited December 21, 2022 by ozimoron 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Hanaguma Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 Ungrateful little turd didn't even have the decency to wear a necktie when meeting the President of the United States. Interesting timing, as Congress is "debating" an Omnibus spending bill that has an ADDITIONAL $45 billion to fund the war in Ukraine as well. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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internationalism Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 What acronym ZELENSKY in the title of this article means? that's another 44 bln military aid, to boost an armament industry in the US. Total this year over 100 bln. That, unless republicans will be able somehow stop this payment in 2023. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 ZALENSKY TO CONGRESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Tug Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Hanaguma said: Ungrateful little turd didn't even have the decency to wear a necktie when meeting the President of the United States. Interesting timing, as Congress is "debating" an Omnibus spending bill that has an ADDITIONAL $45 billion to fund the war in Ukraine as well. Well for an ungrateful little turd as you put it had both sides of United States Congress giving multiple standing ovations meanwhile the evil little dwarf Putin hides in his bunker no sir president Zalinsky has significant historical stature with or without a tie he’s the real deal 12 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Tug said: Well for an ungrateful little turd as you put it had both sides of United States Congress giving multiple standing ovations meanwhile the evil little dwarf Putin hides in his bunker no sir president Zalinsky has significant historical stature with or without a tie he’s the real deal Oh, I don't doubt it. Everyone gets a piece of the Military Industrial Complex pie! Trying to look like some kind of warrior king when he is just another corrupt autocrat. No winners here. Putin is a turd, Zelensky too, both need to be flushed from memory. I can think of a few hundred better uses for $45 billion than p!ssing it away on a proxy war that nobody will win. Hell that is half the ENTIRE Russian defense budget! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ozimoron Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 According to Leigh Ann Caldwell of The Washington Post, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) urged Clyde to stand for applause during one round of ovation for Zelenskyy — to which Clyde mouthed, "I will not However, as the Ukraine war has progressed, Republicans have become increasingly divided over support for military and humanitarian aid. In particular, loyalists to Donald Trump have begun opposing the aid, and voting against it in both the House and Senate — something that could complicate the passage of further aid when Republicans assume control of the House next year. https://www.rawstory.com/andrew-clyde-ukraine/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 Some keyboard warriors here have spoken their piece but what does Americans feel about the war. Majority of Americans (57%) believe that US should continue sending military and financial aid to Ukraine. Only a third (33%) say they think US can’t afford to spend more on the conflict. 82% of respondents perceive Russia is an enemy up significantly from last year. and 76% Americans consider Ukraine an ally. https://www.voanews.com/a/poll-majority-of-americans-support-continued-aid-for-ukraine/6858460.html 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 9 hours ago, ozimoron said: Still in Putin's pocket. "Zelensky is basically an ungrateful international welfare queen," Donald Trump Jr. tweeted Wednesday. https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-bash-zelensky-appeal-aid-welfare-queen-1768868 Anyone else feel the urge to do something to him that his father should have done repeatedly when he was a kid? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyLouie Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 At least the little CIA actor showed up in costume. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 So far, the Ukraine has received something in the order of $100 billion in aid- roughly half from the US alone, about a third from the EU, the rest from others. That should be enough to stop Putin- after all it is more money that Russia spends on its entire military. Time to stop feeding the beast. The more Zelensky gets, the more he wants and the less likely he is to negotiate a settlement. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Hanaguma said: Ungrateful little turd didn't even have the decency to wear a necktie when meeting the President of the United States. Interesting timing, as Congress is "debating" an Omnibus spending bill that has an ADDITIONAL $45 billion to fund the war in Ukraine as well. Zelenskiy is also the President of an independent nation, diplomatically he has equal standing to any other President. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, NickyLouie said: At least the little CIA actor showed up in costume. He was in military fatigues which is typical of him since the start of the war and to remind Congress that his country is still at war. By costume, you probably referring to those superhero NFT animations. 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: So far, the Ukraine has received something in the order of $100 billion in aid- roughly half from the US alone, about a third from the EU, the rest from others. That should be enough to stop Putin- after all it is more money that Russia spends on its entire military. Time to stop feeding the beast. The more Zelensky gets, the more he wants and the less likely he is to negotiate a settlement. Putin would probably agree. Which brings up an observable truth, ‘supporters of America’s rightwing and the last Republican president take positions which align remarkably close to those supportive of Putin and his illegal war on Ukraine’. It’s a thing. Edited December 22, 2022 by Chomper Higgot 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: So far, the Ukraine has received something in the order of $100 billion in aid- roughly half from the US alone, about a third from the EU, the rest from others. That should be enough to stop Putin- after all it is more money that Russia spends on its entire military. Time to stop feeding the beast. The more Zelensky gets, the more he wants and the less likely he is to negotiate a settlement. Russia's military budget in 2022 was $75 billion. Its 2023 budget is $84 billion. Ukraine has received around $27 billion in military aid so far. The rest was humanitarian 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Putin would probably agree. Which brings up an observable truth, ‘supporters of America’s rightwing and the last Republic president take positions which align remarkably close to those supportive of Putin and his illegal war on Ukraine’. That is the stock answer, isn't it? If you don't fall in lockstep with the warmongers, you are a stooge of Putin. And worse, a stooge of Trump. But there is a principled position that rejects both. Ukraine is no free and democratic society. They poked the bear and the bear got mad. Biden made it worse by seeming to accept a "minor incursion" into Ukraine. So here we are. Sorry, but Ukraine isn't worth 7 billion dollars of my country's hard earned taxes. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: So far, the Ukraine has received something in the order of $100 billion in aid- roughly half from the US alone, about a third from the EU, the rest from others. That should be enough to stop Putin- after all it is more money that Russia spends on its entire military. Time to stop feeding the beast. The more Zelensky gets, the more he wants and the less likely he is to negotiate a settlement. ...."negotiate a settlement." Seriously? Who should Zelensky be negotiating with? Lord knows Putin can't be trusted to keep his word. Maybe he can negotiate with Victor Bout. That way he might be able to obtain additional weapons. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Russia's military budget in 2022 was $75 billion. Its 2023 budget is $84 billion. Ukraine has received around $27 billion in military aid so far. The rest was humanitarian Really? According to CSIS the US alone has already given 27 billion in direct military aid, plus another 10 billion in peripheral. Non US at least another 10 billion in direct military aid. Plus, even non military aid helps the military. https://www.csis.org/analysis/aid-ukraine-explained-six-charts It is enough. More than enough. Let the two little buggers fight it out. How much blood and treasure is Zelinsky worth? Edited December 22, 2022 by Hanaguma 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: That is the stock answer, isn't it? If you don't fall in lockstep with the warmongers, you are a stooge of Putin. And worse, a stooge of Trump. But there is a principled position that rejects both. Ukraine is no free and democratic society. They poked the bear and the bear got mad. Biden made it worse by seeming to accept a "minor incursion" into Ukraine. So here we are. Sorry, but Ukraine isn't worth 7 billion dollars of my country's hard earned taxes. I came across a very similar argument on RT. “Sorry, but Ukraine isn't worth 7 billion dollars of my country's hard earned taxes. ” Opinions differ. I personally think it’s a very small amount to pay to keep Putin under control. Far cheaper than appeasement. ’Peace in our time’ - Look it up. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Really? According to CSIS the US alone has already given 27 billion in direct military aid, plus another 10 billion in peripheral. Non US at least another 10 billion in direct military aid. Plus, even non military aid helps the military. https://www.csis.org/analysis/aid-ukraine-explained-six-charts It is enough. More than enough. Let the two little buggers fight it out. How much blood and treasure is Zelinsky worth? Your previous post was poorly attempting to compare aid to Ukraine with Russia's military budget. Vast difference with the humanitarian aid that is needed and provided. Anyway whats been offered and what its received so far are 2 different things. This from top donor countries not just US: https://www.statista.com/chart/27278/military-aid-to-ukraine-by-country/ Edited December 22, 2022 by Bkk Brian 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, Berkshire said: ...."negotiate a settlement." Seriously? Who should Zelensky be negotiating with? Lord knows Putin can't be trusted to keep his word. Maybe he can negotiate with Victor Bout. That way he might be able to obtain additional weapons. Neither of them can be trusted. But so what. Ain't my business and ain't yours. Look, how many lives do you think Ukraine is worth? How many people in YOUR country should go without, so that weapons can be given to Zelinsky? Each Canadian citizen has given $200 so far, at the behest of our government. So a family of 4 has lost $800 to this war. Don't you think they could have spent the money better themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Neither of them can be trusted. But so what. Ain't my business and ain't yours. Look, how many lives do you think Ukraine is worth? How many people in YOUR country should go without, so that weapons can be given to Zelinsky? Each Canadian citizen has given $200 so far, at the behest of our government. So a family of 4 has lost $800 to this war. Don't you think they could have spent the money better themselves? Once again, I’ll refer you to the history of appeasing tyrants. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Your previous post was poorly attempting to compare aid to Ukraine with Russia's military budget. Vast difference with the humanitarian aid that is needed and provided. Anyway whats been offered and what its received so far are 2 different things. This from all countries not just US: https://www.statista.com/chart/27278/military-aid-to-ukraine-by-country/ How about just giving each family $800 and asking them how much they want to give to Zelensky? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Hanaguma said: How about just giving each family $800 and asking them how much they want to give to Zelensky? Trolling rubbish 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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