Saturday Night Fever in Pattaya - What a disappointment

[JimTripper]

28 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

the bars are open air, there's a certain vibe there, some people actually enjoy drinking and talking with the girls.

its not just the sex. 

A lot of guys don’t have sex at all. They just talk, laugh and chitchat.

 

When “you’re” retired sometimes the “drive” for strenuous activity is not what it “used to be”.

 

There are pills that can “help”, but they are not without risks, including prolonged “woody’s” lasting for over 4 hrs. If this happens to you please see “your” doctor.

[newnative]

4 hours ago, JimTripper said:

So why not Hua Hin? It has hospitals and mostly everything Pattaya has without the sex scene. It’ also roughly the same distance from bkk. Does a hour or two make a difference or is it just an excuse you use. It’s just an excuse. Your in Pattaya for the sex scene, not a conference room, the beach, temple or grocery store.

    Umm.  No.   You may be in Pattaya for the 'sex scene'--and nothing wrong with that--but there are plenty of us who live here, and many who visit, who are not.   It's just laughable for you think that is all that is on offer here--for both visitors and those who live here.  You definitely need to get out more and see all the non-bar areas if this is your thinking.   

    Maybe check out the massive Lumpini Park Beach condo complex in Jomtien some holiday weekend--you'll see many Bangkok families.  Other examples are all over town.  The beautiful Centara resort in Wong Amat is another--lots of families there and at many of the condos in that area.  There are literally hundreds and hundreds of housing estates all over Pattaya, and especially on the Darkside--filled with families.  And, more being built--my partner and I have visited a number of new ones in the past few weeks.

     I wonder--have you ever actually been to Jomtien, Cosy Beach, Wong Amat, or the Darkside?   Been to any of the nice, oceanfront seafood restaurants scattered from Naklua to points south?  Chartered a boat for a wonderful seafood lunch cruise on the ocean with some snorkeling thrown in?  Been out to Silver Lake?  Nong Nooch Gardens?  Sky Gallery?  Lake Mabprachan?   I think you'll find, if you look, there's much more to Pattaya than your 'sex scene' and that Flybird condo you were interested in.

    A couple of hours definitely makes a difference for some when you are talking about owning a weekend beach getaway condo.   The many Bangkokians flocking to Pattaya to their weekend condos likely weighed this when they chose Pattaya over Hua Hin.   I think most people would also agree that it is not just a quicker drive but a more pleasant one--especially with the expanded lanes.  Plus, the tremendous variety Pattaya has to offer.  For many, including my  partner and me, it was a very easy choice.

[Mickeymaus]

5 minutes ago, newnative said:

    Umm.  No.   You may be in Pattaya for the 'sex scene'--and nothing wrong with that--but there are plenty of us who live here, and many who visit, who are not.   It's just laughable for you think that is all that is on offer here--for both visitors and those who live here.  You definitely need to get out more and see all the non-bar areas if this is your thinking.   

    Maybe check out the massive Lumpini Park Beach condo complex in Jomtien some holiday weekend--you'll see many Bangkok families.  Other examples are all over town.  The beautiful Centara resort in Wong Amat is another--lots of families there and at many of the condos in that area.  There are literally hundreds and hundreds of housing estates all over Pattaya, and especially on the Darkside--filled with families.  And, more being built--my partner and I have visited a number of new ones in the past few weeks.

     I wonder--have you ever actually been to Jomtien, Cosy Beach, Wong Amat, or the Darkside?   Been to any of the nice, oceanfront seafood restaurants scattered from Naklua to points south?  Chartered a boat for a wonderful seafood lunch cruise on the ocean with some snorkeling thrown in?  Been out to Silver Lake?  Nong Nooch Gardens?  Sky Gallery?  Lake Mabprachan?   I think you'll find, if you look, there's much more to Pattaya than your 'sex scene' and that Flybird condo you were interested in.

    A couple of hours definitely makes a difference for some when you are talking about owning a weekend beach getaway condo.   The many Bangkokians flocking to Pattaya to their weekend condos likely weighed this when they chose Pattaya over Hua Hin.   I think most people would also agree that it is not just a quicker drive but a more pleasant one--especially with the expanded lanes.  Plus, the tremendous variety Pattaya has to offer.  For many, including my  partner and me, it was a very easy choice.

Pattaya is "famous" for its sex businesses. You have so many red light areas especially in Central Pattaya. And countless sex tourists come to Pattaya for only one reason. It is Sin City. Sure you can do other things in Pattaya. But you cannot deny the many sex businesses . 

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Mickeymaus said:

Pattaya is "famous" for its sex businesses. You have so many red light areas especially in Central Pattaya. And countless sex tourists come to Pattaya for only one reason. It is Sin City. Sure you can do other things in Pattaya. But you cannot deny the many sex businesses . 

He wasn't.

 

While I enjoy the company of the local women folk, I would have no problems enjoying Pattaya without them. At my age I am on the cusp of that now.

[redwood1]

When did girls in Pattaya start wanting money for sex?....I always thought it was free....

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

When did girls in Pattaya start wanting money for sex?....I always thought it was free....

They don't. They want money to leave.

[Mickeymaus]

6 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

When did girls in Pattaya start wanting money for sex?....I always thought it was free....

It should be free. If they ask for money call the police and tell them that there is a prostitute in your room. 

[d4dang]

helping single mothers dancing in agogo bars is an honorable thing,,, 

[HappyExpat57]

The bars don't usually get warmed up until ~11:00 pm, but with the mandatory 2:00 am closure, it's like "why bother?"  Back in the day when you could "legally" party until the sun came up, things were fun! Now, if I have that small a window of opportunity to party, I'll stay home instead, thank you very much.

[d4dang]

the talent pool was better 20 years ago...less mercenaries

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, d4dang said:

the talent pool was better 20 years ago...less mercenaries

and even better 40 years ago ????

[newnative]

49 minutes ago, Mickeymaus said:

Pattaya is "famous" for its sex businesses. You have so many red light areas especially in Central Pattaya. And countless sex tourists come to Pattaya for only one reason. It is Sin City. Sure you can do other things in Pattaya. But you cannot deny the many sex businesses . 

    I was not denying the 'sex businesses'.  I was objecting to the ridiculous and ill-informed presumption of the earlier poster, postulating that since he is coming to Pattaya for the 'sex scene', everyone else must also be coming to Pattaya for the  same reason.   Then he throws in, if we choose Pattaya over Hua Hin for any reason, like it's closer to Bangkok, it's just an excuse for choosing Pattaya for sex.      Again, umm, no.  I like to read mystery novels but when I visit a library or a bookstore I would never assume that everyone else was also there just for mystery novels, too.

[JimTripper]

 

2 hours ago, Mickeymaus said:

Pattaya is "famous" for its sex businesses. You have so many red light areas especially in Central Pattaya. And countless sex tourists come to Pattaya for only one reason. It is Sin City. Sure you can do other things in Pattaya. But you cannot deny the many sex businesses . 

Every time this subject is mentioned people come out and give excuses why they are in Pattaya and mention a bunch of odd activities that could be found anywhere, and much easier elsewhere.

 

It sounds like a husband making excuses why he needs to go into town or stay out late. Honey, I need to meet my colleagues at a convention tonight. I was just out for a few beers and they chose walking street, not my decision. ????????‍♂️

[proton]

4 hours ago, Lemsta69 said:

you sound as boring as the OP. and you're probably a moralist to boot. oh that's right, agents are bad mmmkay? ????

What is an interesting person to you, a fellow cargo shorted tattooed sex tourist boasting about his special forces career and how much bar girls love him? Maybe one of those teachers who race down there on the weekends from Bkk for the seafood and shopping! Many punters are so dim and desperate they are not even aware that behind the fake smiles and mindless chit chat, most of the girls despise them. The sex scene in Pattaya is a mugs game, as for the rest you can find that in better places like Bang Saen, that even has a real beach and you can go in the sea without fear of an infection. ????

[stoner]

19 hours ago, Mickeymaus said:

And this with my Thai girl friend (she never worked in a bar).

not my girl !!

 

 

[redwood1]

 I have high morals.....

 

I will not lower myself to take the dirty women of walking street......

I like my women natural.......

 

So I only take women from beach road, because they are all sweet innocent and natural.....

[Taboo2]

Pattaya is fine.  I  live here and it will take time to get back to pre-Covid.  Folks are working again, families are eating and that is a plus compared to what these folks had to go through.  Yes, there are many bars opened and not enough foot traffic to fill every bar, but such is life.  The market will determine who survives.  

 

I can assure you that WS is alive and well and folks (tourists) come there every night to walk, have fun and eat.  Go into most Go Gos and you  will see  Mongers spending money and having fun.  Go to the large clubs like Republic, Myst, etc and you  will see many folks having fun.

 

It  is not for everyone, but there is a reason why people come back.

[BigStar]

14 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Pattaya's nefarious origins date back to the Vietnam war R&R days and the US AFB at U-Tapao.

No. An ignorant myth, but one that will never die.

[newnative]

10 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

 

Every time this subject is mentioned people come out and give excuses why they are in Pattaya and mention a bunch of odd activities that could be found anywhere, and much easier elsewhere.

 

It sounds like a husband making excuses why he needs to go into town or stay out late. Honey, I need to meet my colleagues at a convention tonight. I was just out for a few beers and they chose walking street, not my decision. ????????‍♂️

       Guilty--but giving reasons as to why a place was chosen to live or visit isn't the same thing as 'excuses'.    When choosing a place to live, people generally have some wants and needs--and end up choosing one place over others for those reasons.   

     It's very similar to condo or house shopping--generally you have some wants and needs and look for a property that comes closest to meeting them.  If I recall, one of your wants in a condo was a balcony.  The Flybird condo you were considering did not have one.  At that point you decide if it's a deal breaker or not and go from there.   Pattaya has your 'sex scene'.  Was that a deal breaker for my partner and me?  No, because Pattaya met far more of our wants and needs than any other place.

    I welcome your choices for other beach cities that are 'easier' (?) and 2 hours or less from Bangkok, have a Central Festival mall and a Terminal 21, have 3 choices for movies in English, 5 hospital choices, at least a dozen different new car dealers, Home Pro, Baan and Beyond, Index, Thai Watsadu, Boonthavorn and Chic Republic, 300 housing estates to choose from, and even more condo projects, restaurants galore with about any kind of food available, sea and boating activities, lots of fresh markets, bakeries, coffee shops, and grocery choices from Makro to Lotus's, to Big C to Villa to Tops, a number of golf courses and three water parks, a zoo and an aquarium, U Tapao and Bangkok airports not far, plus lots more--and a nice expat community to find friends to socialize with.  

      Obviously, none of the above will mean anything to you and will just be 'excuses'--since Pattaya is only for the 'sex scene', and any other activities you deem 'odd'.  But, many people have chosen Pattaya for some of the things I mentioned--and others I haven't listed.  And, now I am off to one of my 'odd activities' --a nice swim in my pool, enjoying the delightful weather.

[BigStar]

38 minutes ago, Taboo2 said:

Yes, there are many bars opened and not enough foot traffic to fill every bar, but such is life. 

Even in the monger heyday, not every bar was filled in Pattaya. Probably the rose-tinted rearview mirror for those who think so. After a lot more bars were built, then even if Pattaya had the same number of tourists, TAT: TVF determined that Pattaya had now "died." Our Economists need to see a business crowded at all times to believe it's making a profit. Otherwise, it must be dying, like all the shopping malls.

Edited January 16, 2023 by BigStar

[BigStar]

1 hour ago, JimTripper said:

Every time this subject is mentioned people come out and give excuses why they are in Pattaya and mention a bunch of odd activities that could be found anywhere, and much easier elsewhere.

In Thailand, Pattaya has the greatest concentration of activities that may seem odd to you but normal to others. It's also the most convenient place to live outside of Bangkok, but in a far pleasanter, diverse, reasonably priced environment.

 

1 hour ago, JimTripper said:

It sounds like a husband making excuses why he needs to go into town or stay out late.

Actually, it merely sounds like posters offering up reasons that others find it very important to deny and disparage with silly analogies to justify themselves.

[BigStar]

2 hours ago, proton said:

as for the rest you can find that in better places like Bang Saen, that even has a real beach and you can go in the sea without fear of an infection. ????

Like this, you mean? Hey--I'll take Pattaya.

 

 

Narongchai later wrote on his Facebook that the phenomenon occurs every year from July through September due to southwestern monsoon winds. 

 

Trash Dumped by Bangkokians Washes Up on Bang Sean Beach

[proton]

45 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Like this, you mean? Hey--I'll take Pattaya.

 

 

Narongchai later wrote on his Facebook that the phenomenon occurs every year from July through September due to southwestern monsoon winds. 

 

Trash Dumped by Bangkokians Washes Up on Bang Sean Beach

Washed over from Pattaya, you can see the condoms????

[papa al]

On 1/15/2023 at 1:28 PM, Mickeymaus said:

I really don't go to bars or use entertainers. And my expat friends are the same. If you live for instance in Hamburg you might not go to the infamous Reeperbahn too or/and have fun with hookers. 

 

Here are many party, sex or/and booze lovers - I know. I ovoid contact with such people. And my expat friends here do the same. This is a different world... 

 

Why I ended in Pattaya? I lived for instance longer in Patong Phuket. Nice sunsets but a very touristic infrastructure. Pattaya has a good infrastructure for expats. And here is also some normal Thai life and not only tourism.

 

But I have to admit that I am not a friend of the red light businesses. And it got awful here in Central Pattaya in the last few years. Pattaya seems to love this kind of entertainment. I think more and more often to move to Alicante in Spain. There I can die with dignity - not in the middle of a red light district ????. 

 

 

Don't let the door hit you on the bitt

on the way out.

[BigStar]

6 minutes ago, proton said:

Washed over from Pattaya, you can see the condoms????

Fail, childish attempt to troll Pattaya. Time for cookies & milk?

[BigStar]

On 1/15/2023 at 1:28 PM, Mickeymaus said:

I think more and more often to move to Alicante in Spain. There I can die with dignity - not in the middle of a red light district ????. 

Perverse & boring. You're not seeing the larger picture and giving Pattaya the chance to show you what it can do. Get a sense of style; be celebrated; and know your final destination.

 

Plan to fall off your Pattaya barstool, beer in hand, as rock ‘n’ roll hosannas blast from JBL speakers and black-haired angels dance half-naked over your wasted old corpse, celebrating your life, blessing your Ascension. Somebody'll blow the horn and the regulars will raise their Changs in a toast to the memory of you at your best, when you were making yourself useful by helping to end poverty in Isaan.

 

What you wanna do is to exit Thailand without paying so much as a satang in airfares, overstay charges, or exit taxes; without, in fact, even bothering to wave your expired passport at Thai Immigration.

 

Flip off all those brown uniforms and soar directly to that great beer bar in the sky where await music, balloons, colored lights, a cold beer Chang, and lovely smiling  birds, not to mention a cheerful crowd of hail-fellow-well-met farang who've earlier also met their fates in Pattaya—from heart attacks, drug overdoses, motorbike accidents, and balcony jumps.

 

What better company to keep throughout Eternity?

Edited January 16, 2023 by BigStar

[frantick]

4 hours ago, newnative said:

       Guilty--but giving reasons as to why a place was chosen to live or visit isn't the same thing as 'excuses'.    When choosing a place to live, people generally have some wants and needs--and end up choosing one place over others for those reasons.   

     It's very similar to condo or house shopping--generally you have some wants and needs and look for a property that comes closest to meeting them.  If I recall, one of your wants in a condo was a balcony.  The Flybird condo you were considering did not have one.  At that point you decide if it's a deal breaker or not and go from there.   Pattaya has your 'sex scene'.  Was that a deal breaker for my partner and me?  No, because Pattaya met far more of our wants and needs than any other place.

    I welcome your choices for other beach cities that are 'easier' (?) and 2 hours or less from Bangkok, have a Central Festival mall and a Terminal 21, have 3 choices for movies in English, 5 hospital choices, at least a dozen different new car dealers, Home Pro, Baan and Beyond, Index, Thai Watsadu, Boonthavorn and Chic Republic, 300 housing estates to choose from, and even more condo projects, restaurants galore with about any kind of food available, sea and boating activities, lots of fresh markets, bakeries, coffee shops, and grocery choices from Makro to Lotus's, to Big C to Villa to Tops, a number of golf courses and three water parks, a zoo and an aquarium, U Tapao and Bangkok airports not far, plus lots more--and a nice expat community to find friends to socialize with.  

      Obviously, none of the above will mean anything to you and will just be 'excuses'--since Pattaya is only for the 'sex scene', and any other activities you deem 'odd'.  But, many people have chosen Pattaya for some of the things I mentioned--and others I haven't listed.  And, now I am off to one of my 'odd activities' --a nice swim in my pool, enjoying the delightful weather.

And all of those niceties brought to you by 'the scene' you avoid. Show some respect, man. ????

[newnative]

1 hour ago, frantick said:

And all of those niceties brought to you by 'the scene' you avoid. Show some respect, man. ????

    Not really--and if 'those niceties' had to depend solely on the sex scene folk they'd all go belly up.  Those 300 housing estates and the even more numerous  condo projects I mentioned, Central Festival, T21, and all the other very extensive retail of all sorts that I mentioned,  the water parks, the family resorts, all the big, new hotels like Centre Point Space, the hospitals, the restaurants, etc., etc. were not built because or for those coming to visit for the 'sex scene'.  Sorry--but feel free to lay claim to that bar over there.  And, that go go.

[RichardColeman]

On 1/15/2023 at 4:16 PM, talahtnut said:

25 years ago Pattaya was very Thai,

but now it reminds me of a warmed up

Southend or Blackpool.

yeah, but the powers that be reckon its like Miami - I just spent 2 years stranded in Blackpool and it aint Florida !

[RichardColeman]

10 hours ago, d4dang said:

the talent pool was better 20 years ago...less mercenaries

Agreed, could not walk down soi 7 and 8 due to crowded in road totty back then.