Rimmer Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 A troll post discussing moderation has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: There’s a border, and the Russians crossed I then started killing people and destroying infrastructure and property. Let’s keep prioritize sympathy for the victims of Russia’s illegal invasion. I knew you were going to say that. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Kwasaki said: I knew you were going to say that. ???? So the Russian invasion of the Ukraine is legal Comrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, still kicking said: So the Russian invasion of the Ukraine is legal Comrade. Ignorance is bliss, I guess I knew you would say that too, I have 7 kids, 12 grandchildren and 6 great grandchildren. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post still kicking Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Ignorance is bliss, I guess I knew you would say that too, I have 7 kids, 12 grandchildren and 6 great grandchildren. all in the Ukraine ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 14 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: 2 billion $ being the significant words. I wonder how long financially devastated American citizens will accept such payments for a war a long way off, that does not threaten them. I imagine some congress people will be getting letters from their constituents about it. Even more relevant with the discussion today between Biden and the leader of the house concerning the debt ceiling. The GOP want to reduce military spending, and one would imagine that it would be difficult to cut spending without impacting the support to Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 hours ago, still kicking said: So the Russian invasion of the Ukraine is legal Comrade. Ah, nothing of relevance to say so resorting to personal attacks I see. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longwood50 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 5:03 PM, San Fran Dan said: Call Trump he organized it , Didn’t he bring Taliban to Camp David , didn’t he have 5,000 Militants Released Also <deleted> , The art of the deal lol You would be one who if they found a dead body in the trunk of Hillary's car with a gun with her fingerprints on it would blame Trump saying the evidence was planted. He did not release 5,000 militants the Afghans did. One way or another Biden refused to heed the advise of his military advisors that they needed to stage a withdrawal out of Afghanistan. He just left, abandoning both military equipment and U.S. citizens. He was the one driving the bus at that time. Not Trump. If anyone deserves severe blame it is George W. Bush. He was the one who pushed the U.S.A. into Afghanistan for absolutely no reason and with Zero chance of "winning" . There is no "winning" when you occupy a country whose citizens don't suport you. Korea and Vietnam already proved and so did the Russian experience in Afghanistan Unless you are willing to occupy a country indefinitely and control it with military force you can not control the will of the local population. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted February 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Longwood50 said: He did not release 5,000 militants the Afghans did. One way or another Biden refused to heed the advise of his military advisors that they needed to stage a withdrawal out of Afghanistan. He just left, abandoning both military equipment and U.S. citizens. He was the one driving the bus at that time. Not Trump. "The release of 5,000 prisoners was a condition, agreed between the US and the Taliban after their peace talks last year, to begin these negotiations. The Afghan government was not involved in making the agreement, and had concerns about releasing thousands of militants. Last month, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani warned that the prisoners' release was a "danger" to the world, AFP news agency reported at the time." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54155768 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, Longwood50 said: You would be one who if they found a dead body in the trunk of Hillary's car with a gun with her fingerprints on it would blame Trump saying the evidence was planted. Obsessed with Clinton much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 3:12 PM, thaibeachlovers said: 2 billion $ being the significant words. I wonder how long financially devastated American citizens will accept such payments for a war a long way off, that does not threaten them. I imagine some congress people will be getting letters from their constituents about it. On the contrary. This is the first war America is sponsoring that may threaten them directly. I would bet Russia has a nuclear sub sitting off the US coast right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, 300sd said: On the contrary. This is the first war America is sponsoring that may threaten them directly. I would bet Russia has a nuclear sub sitting off the US coast right now! Lucky for them they have that sub. Because without it, they would only have thousands of land-based ICBMs to commit suicide with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: Lucky for them they have that sub. Because without it, they would only have thousands of land-based ICBMs to commit suicide with. Not sure who may be committing suicide, and I really don't want to find out. Again, this is one time that the US could be threatened at home. If only they didn't have that sub huh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 31 minutes ago, 300sd said: Not sure who may be committing suicide, and I really don't want to find out. Again, this is one time that the US could be threatened at home. If only they didn't have that sub huh. If you think Russia would survive as a nation after launching a nuclear war you're part of a very small minority. Are you familiar with the concept of mutually assured destruction? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, 300sd said: On the contrary. This is the first war America is sponsoring that may threaten them directly. I would bet Russia has a nuclear sub sitting off the US coast right now! Russia only has a total of 11 SSBNs (only doesn't seem like a good word given how devastating one can be really) guarantee not all of them at sea or even seaworthy. The US alone has 53 attack submarines (again, not all will be at sea) plus add others from NATO. What would be the odds on there being a US sub just behind a Russian sub sitting off the coast watching for any hatches opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 5:44 PM, thaibeachlovers said: Even more relevant with the discussion today between Biden and the leader of the house concerning the debt ceiling. The GOP want to reduce military spending, and one would imagine that it would be difficult to cut spending without impacting the support to Ukraine. "The GOP want to reduce military spending..." Got a source for that claim? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Fred Kaplan at Slate.com offers a very good explanation of the drawbacks and benefits of giving Ukraine F-16s https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/02/biden-ukraine-f16-fighter-planes.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 On 2/3/2023 at 10:52 PM, 300sd said: On the contrary. This is the first war America is sponsoring that may threaten them directly. I would bet Russia has a nuclear sub sitting off the US coast right now! Those subs have been threatening the US for MAD since they existed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 5:23 PM, Jingthing said: Ukraine has chosen to be independent from Russia. Russia can't accept that. It's looking like the key to this war is probably Crimea. Ukraine remakes Crimea which monster Putin stole in 2014 and its full circle. Russia didn't want to lose its Mediterranean (southern) naval base in Sevastopol. The whole thing could have been avoided if Russia had asked for a Hongkong type 99 year lease on the area where most people speak Russian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 22 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: Russia didn't want to lose its Mediterranean (southern) naval base in Sevastopol. The whole thing could have been avoided if Russia had asked for a Hongkong type 99 year lease on the area where most people speak Russian. Naive analysis. Putin doesn't recognize Ukraine's existence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 ^ Most layman's analysis is naïve. But that doesn't stop us theorizing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: ^ Most layman's analysis is naïve. But that doesn't stop us theorizing. Much better to seek sources that are not naive that actually know a lot about the Russia Ukraine situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 22 hours ago, VocalNeal said: Russia didn't want to lose its Mediterranean (southern) naval base in Sevastopol. The whole thing could have been avoided if Russia had asked for a Hongkong type 99 year lease on the area where most people speak Russian. Just to be pedantic. Britain far as I know owned Hong Kong, but they depended on the New Territories to survive and the 99 year lease was on them. Good point though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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