Nikki Haley launches presidential campaign, challenging Trump for GOP nomination

[Walker88]

22 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Biden created the border mess intentionally to increase/pad democratic voter rolls. As dumb and moronic Biden and his admin are, NOBODY can be this stupid to allow an open, insecure border, but considering the Houthi's goat herding terror group is playing Biden for the fool he is a fool in the Red sea and MENA crisis, anything is possible with Biden's corruption and plain ole stupidity. The corrupt and demented fool is trying an end-run around the constitution by paying off student loan debt with taxpayer funds in another scheme to buy votes. It's all about cheating because they fear MAGA Trump and know they can't beat him in a fair election and it's making dems make fools of themselves. Case in point: Fanni Willis RICO case is swirling the drain now in Fulton Co., desperate inept fools. LOL Trump must be having a good laugh, especially with the emergence of every new poll showing Biden has failed EVERYWHERE especially the border. Record numbers of illegal crossers on Biden's watch, lowest numbers during Trumps watch and thats a fact. Now SEC / DHS Mayorkas is getting the impeachment treatment.

 

Biden=FAILURE, everything....everywhere. 

 

He should have NEVER removed Trumps effective border policies and controls.

 

Biden EO's America ito a border security crisis

That's some thick tin foil there.

 

Unlike trump who played golf hundreds of times in his 4 miserable years, and who cost the US Taxpayer (according to OMB) $176,000,000 just from his golf, Biden has been working. The strong job growth and strong economy---which dwarfs trump---does encourage people to try to migrate, but the Repub House slashing the budget for Border Patrol has prevented the hiring of additional agents. Oh, and rather than trump's "next week is Infrastructure Week", Biden got a bipartisan Infrastructure Bill passed. Biden also got the price of insulin---a mainstay of trump's obese cult---capped at $35/month, rather than the $600 it was when he entered office.

 

(Anecdote) On a trip to the US I've been staying in my condo, which for 95% of the year is vacant. Another unit is renovating. On a recent morning I walked by it on my way to the gym and saw a half dozen Spanish-speaking men performing the work. It was 7am. We had had snow overnight so area schools were closed and many businesses and the Federal Government were closed. Those men---who may be legal but may not be, and certainly were recent arrivals to the US---had braved snow and icy roads and gotten to work early THOSE people are the types who should be in the US, rather than the bloated, overweight, SSDI-types in places like TN, KY, WV who are trump's cult. The top 'employer' in TN and KY is SSDI, and those are RedStates who vote for the guy who hired dozens of undocumented workers for his wedding planner club in FL.

[Walker88]

On 1/14/2024 at 4:31 PM, Danderman123 said:

Bill Clinton raised taxes and balanced the budget.

 

Ronald Reagan lowered taxes and blew up the budget deficit.

 

George Bush Jr. lowered taxes and blew up the deficit.

 

Donald Trump lowered taxes and blew up the deficit.

 

True that^

 

Republicans are to fiscal conservatism what The Village People are to cops and cowboys.

 

The tax cut under trump was put out as some "job creating" measure, when in really was a transparent attempt to funnel money to the Donor Class. They made a spurious argument about 'overseas profits' being repatriated and then being used to create jobs. That was absolute nonsense. Because interest rates had been virtually zero since the Fed initiated ZIRP in the wake of the Bush Financial Crisis, US companies had gotten all the money they needed at rates far lower than what they would have repatriating any overseas profits and paying even the reduced tax rate on that. When they did repatriate after the tax cut, the funds went to repay the borrowings (US corporate debt hit a record during ZIRP) pay record bonuses to management, and do stock buybacks.

 

trump's claimed 'best economy EVAH!' was typical trumpian hyperbole, as it wasn't even close to reality (kind of like when his doctor said he was 235 lbs). Even before Covid hit his economy registered in the bottom 30% of all Presidential terms since WWII. He was the first President since Herbert Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than when he entered office. GDP change was only half of the amount of new National Debt he ran up, which means there was no organic growth, merely debt-fueled growth---and woefully inefficient debt-fueled growth.

 

His $7,800,000,000,000 increase in National Debt during his tenure was a 40% increase over ALL national debt since the US' founding. It represents $24,000 for every man, woman and child in the US. THAT was the cause of the inflation Biden and the Fed had to address (along with trump's tariffs, which ALWAYS get passed on to the consumer. China no more paid for those tariffs than Mexico paid for the wall trump never built nor funded (even when he had an R House and R Senate).

 

Suffice it to say it's no wonder the guy declared 6 bankruptcies.

 

[EVENKEEL]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The maggots don't want to solve the immigration issue. They want to do nothing and falsely blame Biden. They don't govern. They demagogue. 

How can you falsely blame the POTUS for failing to secure the southern border? It's plain to see he's been incompetent in protecting our border and in many ways complicit to the Border Crisis.

 

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

How can you falsely blame the POTUS for failing to secure the southern border? It's plain to see he's been incompetent in protecting our border and in many ways complicit to the Border Crisis.

 

Please advise what the Republican House of Representatives has done about the border.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Please advise what the Republican House of Representatives has done about the border.

Nyet.

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Nyet.

nicheva

[Danderman123]

8 minutes ago, illisdean said:

The only real and prudent question ANYONE should be asking is what has Biden done about the worst humanitarian and national security crisis in American history that he's created except to make it happen!

False.

 

Your panties are in a bun over a minor problem.

 

 

[Amethyst]

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[Danderman123]

Assuming Trump wins NH, the question is going to be his vote totals vs 2016: are his fans turning out like before?

 

Some people are saying his support is softer now.

 

I certainly want Trump to be nominee this time around, but I'm not voting.

[Walker88]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

False.

 

Your panties are in a bun over a minor problem.

 

 

Maybe I don't get it, but it seems to me a woman who walks 1000 miles from Guatemala to Texas, dragging her two kids, is slightly less of a threat to US national security than, say, the Cuban Missile Crisis or al Qaeda or Russian ICBMs.

 

I suspect House Republicans agree with me, though they would never admit it. If they truly believed it was the worst national security crisis in US history, they probably would not have slashed the budget for Border Patrol.

 

Somebody else might have said this, but most House Repubs are not legislators, they're just performance artists, putting on a silly show and trying to elicit campaign contributions, so they can keep performing.

[illisdean]

20 hours ago, Walker88 said:

suspect House Republicans agree with me, though they would never admit it. If they truly believed it was the worst national security crisis in US history, they probably would not have slashed the budget for Border Patrol.

 

 

Fact Check: Did Republicans Call for Cutting 2,000 Border Patrol Agents?

 

"False. Republicans have not directly called for the cutting of border agents; rather, budgetary plans submitted by the conservative wing of Republican lawmakers would, according to the White House, create budget cuts that would lead to the loss of 2,000 border staff positions. However, the House Freedom Caucus, which made the proposals, dismissed the Biden administration's criticisms"

 

At the same time, Department of Homeland Security figures show the border force's overall budget has steadily risen since 2021 from just under $13 billion to nearly $14.5 billion in 2023.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-republicans-call-cutting-border-patrol-agents-1789250

[ozimoron]

15 hours ago, illisdean said:

 

Most fentanyl comes in through ports of entry by smugglers. The suggestion that a wall would stop it is a feeble joke.

[illisdean]

15 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

Most fentanyl comes in through ports of entry by smugglers. The suggestion that a wall would stop it is a feeble joke.

 

Point is when/until Biden provides/fulfills his constitutional mandated protection requirements, including border security for America and Americans  the national security and humanitarian crisis will remain chaotic and severely compromised under Biden and his feckless largely useless admin (especially soon to be impeached DHS Mayorkas). Trump has this sorted, Biden dictatorialy EO'd the effective immigration / border control security policies implemented by the Trump admin. All Biden needed to do was finish the wall, paint it but no, he's too stupid and spiteful to do the right thing for America who he seems to hate, and the polls are are showing how voters appreciate the solid and exceptional policies and performance under Trump especially concerning border security and economy and this will get him reelected, esay, simple, obvious logic (but oh so difficult for loony left to handle and accept now. now) Just dwell on the fact that vast majority consider Trump was far more effective on border security, economy, and most all the key issues than feckless corrupt Biden (subject of ongoing impeachment inquiry).

 

[Chomper Higgot]

15 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

How can you falsely blame the POTUS for failing to secure the southern border? It's plain to see he's been incompetent in protecting our border and in many ways complicit to the Border Crisis.

 

It’s plain to see Republicans blocking funding to the border.

 

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s plain to see Republicans blocking funding to the border.

 

On a different thread you were shown why. Funny how election year brings out the need for more border patrol.

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

On a different thread you were shown why. Funny how election year brings out the need for more border patrol.

 

Not quite. It's the economy. The US has record low unemployment while central America has big issues.

[EVENKEEL]

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Not quite. It's the economy. The US has record low unemployment while central America has big issues.

No, it's the election. This is why GOP is needed in the WH.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s plain to see Republicans blocking funding to the border.

 

Exactly.

The maga party doesn't want to solve anything!

They just want issues to run on.

They also want Putin to win which is truly disgusting and scary to consider one of two major parties is supporting a major enemy.