Buddhist abbot’s visit to Islamic school sparks uproar

[snoop1130]

Soldiers with a local senior Buddhist monk lecturing students at an Islamic elementary school in Narathiwat on issues of patriotism and history of Thai national flag last Sunday. (Picture from the Special Warfare Command’s Facebook)

 

A recent visit to an Islamic education centre in Narathiwat by a local senior Buddhist monk, accompanied by a group of soldiers, has triggered uproar in the Muslim community in the deep south and was heavily criticised on the second day of the House debate against the Prayut government on Thursday morning.

 

Army officials, however, defended the visit, which they said was designed to help educate young Muslims on the history of the Thai national flag and patriotism.

 

Last Sunday, a group of unarmed soldiers from a task force and a public relations unit accompanied the abbot of a local Buddhist temple on a visit to an Islamic school for elementary students, known as “tadika”, located in the compound of a mosque in Duku village in Bacho District of Narathiwat province, one of the three southernmost provinces affected by years of violence.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/buddhist-abbots-visit-to-islamic-school-sparks-uproar/

 

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[sammieuk1]

So far the education only involved stealing knickers from washing lines and smashing plates over the heads of subordinates ????

[daveAustin]

… sharp intake of breath. Careful careful. Perfectly fine for Thai Muslim scholars and local leaders to want to ban alcohol and marijuana for the whole nation of course. 

[rbkk]

Just as bad, in my book, as the Thai Government schools letting in the Jahova's witnesses.

[proton]

'Buddhist monk, accompanied by a group of soldiers, has triggered uproar in the Muslim community'

 

As usual offended by everything, even a monk talking about the Thai flag. Difficult community to live with when they demand everything their way.

[Enoon]

33 minutes ago, proton said:

'Buddhist monk, accompanied by a group of soldiers, has triggered uproar in the Muslim community'

 

As usual offended by everything, even a monk talking about the Thai flag. Difficult community to live with when they demand everything their way.

 

The Thai flag encapsulates everything that they are offended by.

 

They never asked for it, they don't want it, or anything else to do with Thailand.

 

They are not, nor ever have they been "Thai".

 

"Thaification" is something that was imposed on them:

 

Thaification is a byproduct of the nationalist policies mandated by the Thai state after the Siamese coup d'état of 1933. The coup leaders, said to be inspired by Western ideas of an exclusive nation state, acted more in accordance with their close German nationalist and anti-democratic counterparts (pre-Nazi) to effect kingdom-wide dominance by the central Thai culture. Minority-owned businesses, like the traditionally merchant Thai Chinese, were aggressively acquired by the state, which gave preferential contracts to ethnic Central Thais and cooperative ethnic Chinese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaification

 

They are, to Thailand, as the people of the Republic of Ireland used to be  to the British Empire.

 

They have wanted the Siamese/"Thai" out ever since Siam and the British Empire carved up their homeland between themselves.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 16, 2023 by Enoon

[BayArea]

51 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

The Thai flag encapsulates everything that they are offended by.

 

They never asked for it, they don't want it, or anything else to do with Thailand.

 

They are not, nor ever have they been "Thai".

 

"Thaification" is something that was imposed on them:

 

Thaification is a byproduct of the nationalist policies mandated by the Thai state after the Siamese coup d'état of 1933. The coup leaders, said to be inspired by Western ideas of an exclusive nation state, acted more in accordance with their close German nationalist and anti-democratic counterparts (pre-Nazi) to effect kingdom-wide dominance by the central Thai culture. Minority-owned businesses, like the traditionally merchant Thai Chinese, were aggressively acquired by the state, which gave preferential contracts to ethnic Central Thais and cooperative ethnic Chinese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaification

 

They are, to Thailand, as the people of the Republic of Ireland used to be  to the British Empire.

 

They have wanted the Siamese/"Thai" out ever since Siam and the British Empire carved up their homeland between themselves.

 

 

 

 

100% agree with your post. furthermore, you can add Northeast Issan and Buri Ram, Si Sa Ket, and Surin to that list as well. 

While these regions I mentioned are considered Thai citizens, the majority are Lao descent and speak Lao/Issan language at home and to each other.  Same thing goes for the Khmer descent in the southeast part of Issan near the Cambodia border. Thailand has attempted in the last 7 decades to assimilate the people in those regions to think and believe they are Thai, but in reality, it hasn't worked so well. 

[Bluespunk]

3 hours ago, proton said:

'Buddhist monk, accompanied by a group of soldiers, has triggered uproar in the Muslim community'

 

As usual offended by everything, even a monk talking about the Thai flag. Difficult community to live with when they demand everything their way.

If the visit was forced upon the school, then there is indeed cause for concern. 
 

It is one thing to invite outside speakers into a school, quite another to be told this is happening. 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, BayArea said:

100% agree with your post. furthermore, you can add Northeast Issan and Buri Ram, Si Sa Ket, and Surin to that list as well. 

While these regions I mentioned are considered Thai citizens, the majority are Lao descent and speak Lao/Issan language at home and to each other.  Same thing goes for the Khmer descent in the southeast part of Issan near the Cambodia border. Thailand has attempted in the last 7 decades to assimilate the people in those regions to think and believe they are Thai, but in reality, it hasn't worked so well. 

Forced assimilation rarely does. 

[Artisi]

Seems these people don't want to be Thai but are more than happy to be connected with the Thai electricity grid, water, roads, health etc., typical attitude - us us us. 

[proton]

7 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

The Thai flag encapsulates everything that they are offended by.

 

They never asked for it, they don't want it, or anything else to do with Thailand.

 

They are not, nor ever have they been "Thai".

 

"Thaification" is something that was imposed on them:

 

Thaification is a byproduct of the nationalist policies mandated by the Thai state after the Siamese coup d'état of 1933. The coup leaders, said to be inspired by Western ideas of an exclusive nation state, acted more in accordance with their close German nationalist and anti-democratic counterparts (pre-Nazi) to effect kingdom-wide dominance by the central Thai culture. Minority-owned businesses, like the traditionally merchant Thai Chinese, were aggressively acquired by the state, which gave preferential contracts to ethnic Central Thais and cooperative ethnic Chinese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaification

 

They are, to Thailand, as the people of the Republic of Ireland used to be  to the British Empire.

 

They have wanted the Siamese/"Thai" out ever since Siam and the British Empire carved up their homeland between themselves.

 

 

 

 

If as you claim they are offended the flag and Thailand they are free to leave the country, they are Thai- they all have Id cards to prove it. 

[proton]

4 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Forced assimilation rarely does. 

I thought diversity was a strength? nobody is forcing them to stay, they can leave for a muslim country if they are offended by the flag and historical border changes 

[Bluespunk]

3 hours ago, proton said:

I thought diversity was a strength? nobody is forcing them to stay, they can leave for a muslim country if they are offended by the flag and historical border changes 

Diversity is a strength when it is collaborative process.

 

Authoritarianism and forced assimilation at the point of a gun is not. 
 

The people you say should move to another country are already living in their country. Forceable annexation is somewhat more complex than a border change. 

[proton]

7 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Diversity is a strength when it is collaborative process.

 

Authoritarianism and forced assimilation at the point of a gun is not. 
 

The people you say should move to another country are already living in their country. Forceable annexation is somewhat more complex than a border change. 

These trouble makers, permanently offended and jihadist murderers for a lost pointless cause will always have a minority of supporters and apologists ????

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, proton said:

These trouble makers, permanently offended and jihadist murderers for a lost pointless cause will always have a minority of supporters and apologists ????

Ah, so your true motive for posting here is revealed. 

Edited February 17, 2023 by Bluespunk

[proton]

25 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Ah, so your true motive for posting here is revealed. 

You are claiming what exactly?

[Bluespunk]

7 minutes ago, proton said:

You are claiming what exactly?

You have an agenda rooted in intolerance. 

[proton]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

You have an agenda rooted in intolerance. 

You are wrong again, as usual!

[edwinchester]

10 hours ago, Artisi said:

Seems these people don't want to be Thai but are more than happy to be connected with the Thai electricity grid, water, roads, health etc., typical attitude - us us us. 

I'm sure they'd be much happier to be enjoying Malaysian electricity, water, roads and healthcare but that choice was taken from the ethnic Malays a century ago.

[Bluespunk]

12 minutes ago, proton said:

You are wrong again, as usual!

 

3 hours ago, proton said:

These trouble makers, permanently offended and jihadist murderers for a lost pointless cause will always have a minority of supporters and apologists ????

 

[StayinThailand2much]

On 2/17/2023 at 1:26 AM, snoop1130 said:

Army officials, however, defended the visit, which they said was designed to help educate young Muslims on the history of the Thai national flag and patriotism

So, why does a Buddhist monk lecture about patriotism and the national flag? Sadly, knowing Thailand's policy of "uniting" the people (China style), I can understand the uproar...

[proton]

7 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

So, why does a Buddhist monk lecture about patriotism and the national flag? Sadly, knowing Thailand's policy of "uniting" the people (China style), I can understand the uproar...

What difference does it make who does it? Well in this case none as these brainwashed kids just hate everything not Islamic

[billd766]

On 2/17/2023 at 3:08 AM, Artisi said:

Seems these people don't want to be Thai but are more than happy to be connected with the Thai electricity grid, water, roads, health etc., typical attitude - us us us. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ&ab_channel=MontyPython

 

[zzaa09]

On 2/16/2023 at 8:29 AM, Enoon said:

 

The Thai flag encapsulates everything that they are offended by.

 

They never asked for it, they don't want it, or anything else to do with Thailand.

 

They are not, nor ever have they been "Thai".

 

"Thaification" is something that was imposed on them:

 

Thaification is a byproduct of the nationalist policies mandated by the Thai state after the Siamese coup d'état of 1933. The coup leaders, said to be inspired by Western ideas of an exclusive nation state, acted more in accordance with their close German nationalist and anti-democratic counterparts (pre-Nazi) to effect kingdom-wide dominance by the central Thai culture. Minority-owned businesses, like the traditionally merchant Thai Chinese, were aggressively acquired by the state, which gave preferential contracts to ethnic Central Thais and cooperative ethnic Chinese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaification

 

They are, to Thailand, as the people of the Republic of Ireland used to be  to the British Empire.

 

They have wanted the Siamese/"Thai" out ever since Siam and the British Empire carved up their homeland between themselves.

 

 

 

 

....and these somewhat modern nationalist ideals have been embedded ever since. Instigated by Pridi, Phibun and their militarist mob. 

Though, one could easily argue that this Thaification was well in place by the turn of last century. 

Semantics.  

[zzaa09]

On 2/16/2023 at 9:34 AM, BayArea said:

100% agree with your post. furthermore, you can add Northeast Issan and Buri Ram, Si Sa Ket, and Surin to that list as well. 

While these regions I mentioned are considered Thai citizens, the majority are Lao descent and speak Lao/Issan language at home and to each other.  Same thing goes for the Khmer descent in the southeast part of Issan near the Cambodia border. Thailand has attempted in the last 7 decades to assimilate the people in those regions to think and believe they are Thai, but in reality, it hasn't worked so well. 

That would be Khmer [Surin/Sisaket/Buriram], less Lao. 

You might want to get your social geopolitics correct before you go off speaking of things you're not knowledgeable about. 

[Artisi]

51 minutes ago, billd766 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ&ab_channel=MontyPython

 

But but - that's different .............................

[Hawaiian]

Who better to send than these symbols of authority to remind them who is in power.  Not a good idea, in my opinion.

[BayArea]

22 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

That would be Khmer [Surin/Sisaket/Buriram], less Lao. 

You might want to get your social geopolitics correct before you go off speaking of things you're not knowledgeable about. 

Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Read my post again.  

Edited February 19, 2023 by BayArea
Didn't finished writing

[simple1]

On 2/18/2023 at 3:37 PM, proton said:

What difference does it make who does it? Well in this case none as these brainwashed kids just hate everything not Islamic

Why is a Buddhist preaching nationalism, it runs counter to Buddhist philosophy. Secondly I suggest you do some research on the deep South conflict before posting again. The link below will assist with your education.

 

https://defence.gov.au/ADC/Publications/documents/Shedden/2012/SheddenPapers12_120306_ConflictinThailand_Nurakkate.pdf

[proton]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

Why is a Buddhist preaching nationalism, it runs counter to Buddhist philosophy. Secondly I suggest you do some research on the deep South conflict before posting again. The link below will assist with your education.

 

https://defence.gov.au/ADC/Publications/documents/Shedden/2012/SheddenPapers12_120306_ConflictinThailand_Nurakkate.pdf

Don't need any education (propaganda) on it thanks. Islamic jihad, or random murder is evil and will get them nowhere even though they follow a man who is quoted in the Hadith of Bukhari stating that - 'I was victorious with terror'. After 20 odd years and over 6k deaths they have achieved only mindless death. They need to give up.