Special counsel shows signs of ramping up Trump investigation

[Scott]

The Justice Department probes into Donald Trump’s conduct appear to be ramping up, as special counsel Jack Smith approaches key allies of the former president with knowledge of his activities surrounding the Jan. 6 Capitol attack and classified documents discovered at Mar-a-Lago in Florida.

 

In recent weeks, Smith has subpoenaed both former Vice President Mike Pence and then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, two figures with strong visibility into Trump’s actions leading up to and on the day of the deadly riot.

 

 

The Justice Department has also sought to pierce the attorney-client privilege connected to Trump’s lawyer in the Mar-a-Lago probe, Evan Corcoran, alleging he may have given legal advice in furtherance of a crime.

 

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3864012-special-counsel-shows-signs-of-ramping-up-trump-investigation/

[ozimoron]

Where are those members claiming that Trump hasn't done anything wrong because he hasn't yet been indicted?

[ozimoron]

 

[bendejo]

Oh boy, ramping up!  Subpoenas issued!  Real nail-biting and edge-of-the-seat action! 

You know how the news sites have links to other articles on the same topic?  Today I clicked one that said "T____ indictment imminent!"

It was dated March 2021.

2+ years and counting since the Capitol was attacked, 6+ years since the inauguration, arguably his first egregious act was on that day pocketing inauguration funds, and the hits just keep on coming.  "Oooo, look what he did now!"  Georgia trial no sooner than November -- nice move, bought him nearly a year, which means no judgement until next year, oh, but wait, it's an election year, so that's yet another year, 2025, and if he gets back into the WH (note: I did not use the word elected) either it all gets scrubbed or back to square one in 2029. 

Forget about justice, we'll probably have to settle for just keeping the blackguard out of office.  They can at least lock up his verminous abettors.

I'm sticking with my prediction that this will drag on thru the next decade, I hope I'm wrong. 

What happened to the concept of a "speedy trial?"  Even the Dominion case looks looks like it is making progress. 

 

 

Edited February 19, 2023 by bendejo

[Credo]

8 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Oh boy, ramping up!  Subpoenas issued!  Real nail-biting and edge-of-the-seat action! 

You know how the news sites have links to other articles on the same topic?  Today I clicked one that said "T____ indictment imminent!"

It was dated March 2021.

2+ years and counting since the Capitol was attacked, 6+ years since the inauguration, arguably his first egregious act was on that day pocketing inauguration funds, and the hits just keep on coming.  "Oooo, look what he did now!"  Georgia trial no sooner than November -- nice move, bought him nearly a year, which means no judgement until next year, oh, but wait, it's an election year, so that's yet another year, 2025, and if he gets back into the WH (note: I did not use the word elected) either it all gets scrubbed or back to square one in 2029. 

Forget about justice, we'll probably have to settle for just keeping the blackguard out of office.  They can at least lock up his verminous abettors.

I'm sticking with my prediction that this will drag on thru the next decade, I hope I'm wrong. 

What happened to the concept of a "speedy trial?"  Even the Dominion case looks looks like it is making progress. 

 

 

I suspect that there is more truth in what you say than I am comfortable with.  The legal system seems to be designed to punish the poor and to give the rich and powerful a pass.   

 

I had someone very close to me who spent a year in jail for a crime he did not commit.  Even though he was no threat, his bail was set way beyond his means.  When it finally went to trial, the main witness retracted the statement.   The judge ruled that the charges be dropped and any reference to the 'crime' be expunged from all documents associated with his name.   

 

Even with a solid alibi and no credible witnesses, a year of a person's life was destroyed.  His children were placed in foster care, he lost his job, his house, his vehicle.   

 

Meanwhile, we have people like Trump, so clearly guilty of so much, and he walks free and a 'Special' counsel has to spend an inordinate amount of time and money to protect his rights.   

 

[jerrymahoney]

All these Federal actions may become a side-show compared to state actions in Georgia:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/georgia-judge-release-parts-grand-jury-report-trump-election-probe-rcna70397

[Chomper Higgot]

What we are witnessing is the outcome of months of work to fight court challenges brought by witnesses who do not wish to obey subpoenas, or perhaps wish to be seen as compelled to respond.

 

Jack Smith wasn’t brought back from The Hague to tinker around the edges, he’s been tasked with concluding the Federal investigations, place evidence and witnesses before the Grand Jury and prosecute crimes committed.

 

He hit the ground running.

 

Jack be nimble, Jack be quick.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, bendejo said:

Oh boy, ramping up!  Subpoenas issued!  Real nail-biting and edge-of-the-seat action! 

You know how the news sites have links to other articles on the same topic?  Today I clicked one that said "T____ indictment imminent!"

It was dated March 2021.

2+ years and counting since the Capitol was attacked, 6+ years since the inauguration, arguably his first egregious act was on that day pocketing inauguration funds, and the hits just keep on coming.  "Oooo, look what he did now!"  Georgia trial no sooner than November -- nice move, bought him nearly a year, which means no judgement until next year, oh, but wait, it's an election year, so that's yet another year, 2025, and if he gets back into the WH (note: I did not use the word elected) either it all gets scrubbed or back to square one in 2029. 

Forget about justice, we'll probably have to settle for just keeping the blackguard out of office.  They can at least lock up his verminous abettors.

I'm sticking with my prediction that this will drag on thru the next decade, I hope I'm wrong. 

What happened to the concept of a "speedy trial?"  Even the Dominion case looks looks like it is making progress. 

 

 

The media are playing for rating.

 

Pay attention to court filings and statements from the DoJ. 
 

If you want to know how well the cases are going, pay attention to the ridiculous arguments put forward by Trump’s lawyers (who have a habit of being indicted themselves).

 

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you want to know how well the cases are going, pay attention to the ridiculous arguments put forward by Trump’s lawyers (who have a habit of being indicted themselves).

I still suspect that DT has a reward out for whoever produces the magic key (like in a video game) that is going to unlock whatever is in the way of his being reinstated (sic).  It's probably a billion bucks, which is why these dipsticks agree to represent him: with $$$ like that it won't matter if they are disbarred.  Getting the client to cough it up, well, another matter entirely.  

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, bendejo said:

I still suspect that DT has a reward out for whoever produces the magic key (like in a video game) that is going to unlock whatever is in the way of his being reinstated (sic).  It's probably a billion bucks, which is why these dipsticks agree to represent him: with $$$ like that it won't matter if they are disbarred.  Getting the client to cough it up, well, another matter entirely.  

 

 

I suspect book deals are their real goal.

[Tug]

All things come to he who waits I know it’s hard be patient it will come and it will be glorious!

[ozimoron]

A new report from Rolling Stone claims that allies of former President Donald Trump have warned him that one of his top lawyers is "very likely" to face criminal charges in the coming months.

 

"Prosecutors have since filed a motion asking a judge in the case to force him to testify based on the crime-fraud exception, which can override attorney-client privilege in cases where an attorney may have assisted a client in the perpetration of a crime," the publication notes.

 

If the judge grants the prosecutors' motion, that means they will have determined that there is probable cause to believe a crime has been committed.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-lawyer-crimes/

[Chomper Higgot]

It’s a little early to book a party guys, but keep the idea in mind.

[ozimoron]

Jan. 6 rioter who threatened to assassinate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gets 38 months in prison

 

"Prosecutors had asked for a sentence of 48 months in prison for Garret Miller, an unemployed Texan who, they noted, was wearing a T-shirt bearing former President Donald Trump's picture and the words 'I was there, Washington, D.C., January 6, 2021' when he was arrested weeks after the attack," politics correspondent Dareh Gregorian wrote.

 

"It should always be remembered that, although Garret is fully responsible for his individual actions that day, his actions and the actions of many others were a product of rhetoric from a cult leader that has yet to be brought to justice," Broden told the court.

 

Miller pleaded guilty to a total of eleven charges which included him having "openly discussed his desire to doxx the officer" who fatally shot Ashli Babbitt and "hug his neck with a nice rope," according to the filing obtained by NBC.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/jan-6-rioter-who-threatened-to-assassinate-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-sentenced-to-38-months-in-prison/

[dotcalm]

On 2/20/2023 at 6:06 AM, ozimoron said:

A new report from Rolling Stone claims that allies of former President Donald Trump have warned him that one of his top lawyers is "very likely" to face criminal charges in the coming months.

 

"Prosecutors have since filed a motion asking a judge in the case to force him to testify based on the crime-fraud exception, which can override attorney-client privilege in cases where an attorney may have assisted a client in the perpetration of a crime," the publication notes.

 

If the judge grants the prosecutors' motion, that means they will have determined that there is probable cause to believe a crime has been committed.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-lawyer-crimes/

"[Furthermore], when DOJ targets lawyers, it is often being done from a position of weakness in their underlying case, as a method of undermining the integrity of the defense legal team. Removal of Evan Corcoran … would serve the purpose of giving DOJ exactly what it wanted.”

If the judge grants the prosecutors' motion, that means they will have determined that there is probable cause to believe a crime has been committed.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mar-a-lago-trump-raid-legal-team-1234682771/

[dotcalm]

Jan 6 video released to Fox News Tucker Carlson by Kevin McCarthy

"On Monday, Carlson claimed that some of the footage appears to contradict "the story that we've been told for more than two years," but he was short on details or specifics. Instead, Carlson teased that his team's findings would air on his program next week."

 

ABC News

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/02/21/raskin-gives-talking-points-away-when-he-smears-tucker-over-jan-6-footage-n706805

 

[onthedarkside]

Off topic and unsubstantiated claims reported and removed

[placeholder]

“There may be some names on that list that you wouldn’t expect,” Emily Kohrs, the forewoman, told CNN on Tuesday of the recommended indictments. “But the big name that everyone keeps asking me about — I don’t think you will be shocked.”

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2023/02/22/ga--grand-jury-forewoman-suggests--the-big-name--on-list-of-recommended-indictments

[placeholder]

35 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

"[Furthermore], when DOJ targets lawyers, it is often being done from a position of weakness in their underlying case, as a method of undermining the integrity of the defense legal team. Removal of Evan Corcoran … would serve the purpose of giving DOJ exactly what it wanted.”

If the judge grants the prosecutors' motion, that means they will have determined that there is probable cause to believe a crime has been committed.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mar-a-lago-trump-raid-legal-team-1234682771/

Often, not always. And in a case like this where clearly lies were told about the presence of unauthorized documents on the premises, it makes sense to go after the guy who drafted the letter to the Justice Dept that claimed a diligent search was done to see if there were any more unauthorized documents and none were found. That guy was Even Corcoran.  That lawyer was obviously exposing himself to a world of hurt. Before the search warrant was issued, Justice Dept reps had asked to open the box that was ultimately found to contain the documents. Trump's agents refused to give permission.

[placeholder]

52 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Jan 6 video released to Fox News Tucker Carlson by Kevin McCarthy

"On Monday, Carlson claimed that some of the footage appears to contradict "the story that we've been told for more than two years," but he was short on details or specifics. Instead, Carlson teased that his team's findings would air on his program next week."

 

ABC News

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/02/21/raskin-gives-talking-points-away-when-he-smears-tucker-over-jan-6-footage-n706805

 

This is brilliant! The guy who successfully defended himself in court on the grounds that no one should believe what he says, has been exclusive access to all the footage. What's he going to do with it? Make another debunked documentary?

.

[dotcalm]

44 minutes ago, placeholder said:

This is brilliant! The guy who successfully defended himself in court on the grounds that no one should believe what he says, has been exclusive access to all the footage. What's he going to do with it? Make another debunked documentary?

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Put more faith is what you see and not what you hear. Let the security videos speak for themselves.

 

Tucker is just the lucky slob who gets the story.

 

Nothing to fear but the truth.

[placeholder]

8 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Put more faith is what you see and not what you hear. Let the security videos speak for themselves.

 

Tucker is just the lucky slob who gets the story.

 

Nothing to fear but the truth.

Because we can count on Carlson not to selectively edit those videos? The guy who successfully defended himself in court by claiming what he said shouldn't be considered factual? The guy who already put together a video about January 6th and made demonstrably false claims? That guy?

[dotcalm]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Because we can count on Carlson not to selectively edit those videos? The guy who successfully defended himself in court by claiming what he said shouldn't be considered factual? The guy who already put together a video about January 6th and made demonstrably false claims? That guy?

Edit, as in alter? Or as in screen the videos to present only relevant, useful vids? Obviously FOX can't or won't publish all 40,000 hours, but all videos can be loaded online for all to access in the interest of transparency.

 

The videos, if altered will be called out by the J6 presentation committee.

 

Sit back and enjoy a dose of reality and truth based on factual video evidence.

 

Edited February 23, 2023 by dotcalm

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, dotcalm said:

Jan 6 video released to Fox News Tucker Carlson by Kevin McCarthy

"On Monday, Carlson claimed that some of the footage appears to contradict "the story that we've been told for more than two years," but he was short on details or specifics. Instead, Carlson teased that his team's findings would air on his program next week."

 

ABC News

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/02/21/raskin-gives-talking-points-away-when-he-smears-tucker-over-jan-6-footage-n706805

 

Put Carlson on the stand and under oath.

 

I’m all for it.

[dotcalm]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Put Carlson on the stand and under oath.

 

I’m all for it.

For what, being the top rated show on cable news?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, dotcalm said:

For what, being the top rated show on cable news?

Well we know for sure, when he’s under oath he’s suddenly stops saying a lot of stuff that earns him that slot.

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, dotcalm said:

Edit, as in alter? Or as in screen the videos to present only relevant, useful vids? Obviously FOX can't or won't publish all 40,000 hours, but all videos can be loaded online for all to access in the interest of transparency.

 

The videos, if altered will be called out by the J6 presentation committee.

 

Sit back and enjoy a dose of reality and truth based on factual video evidence.

 

 

"Obviously FOX can't or won't publish all 40,000 hours, but all videos can be loaded online for all to access in the interest of transparency."

Fox has nothing to do with the selection. Fox will be showing the videos that Carlson selects. 

As for "edit" I mean cut and paste. These cameras record videos continuously. So unless Carlsion planning to show unedited feeds, which, according to you won't happen, then the act of editing is altering. Do I really have to explain to you how that works?

And, of course, we have the evidence of Carlson's commitment to objectivity from his earlier "documentary" which claimed govt agents of various stripes were behind the Jan 6 invasion of the Capitol.

And why would anyone believe that when the J6 committee members point out any falsehoods or misleading editing that might occur, that Republicans will believe them? After all, most still believe, despite the overwhelming evidence against it, that the 2020 elections were stolen. 

[heybruce]

19 hours ago, dotcalm said:

Edit, as in alter? Or as in screen the videos to present only relevant, useful vids? Obviously FOX can't or won't publish all 40,000 hours, but all videos can be loaded online for all to access in the interest of transparency.

 

The videos, if altered will be called out by the J6 presentation committee.

 

Sit back and enjoy a dose of reality and truth based on factual video evidence.

 

Why should Tucker Carlson and his minions be the one to decide which videos are pertinent and which aren't?  Why haven't these videos been released to all news organizations to review and present to the public?

 

The answer is obvious:  Kevin McCarthy wants to give Tucker time to frame the story before anyone else.  He's hoping for an outcome similar to when Attorney General Barr "reviewed" the Mueller report before its general release and completely misrepresented the findings.  It didn't fool intelligent people, but the Fox News crowd ate it up.

[Berkshire]

19 hours ago, dotcalm said:

Edit, as in alter? Or as in screen the videos to present only relevant, useful vids? Obviously FOX can't or won't publish all 40,000 hours, but all videos can be loaded online for all to access in the interest of transparency.

 

The videos, if altered will be called out by the J6 presentation committee.

 

Sit back and enjoy a dose of reality and truth based on factual video evidence.

 

..."reality and truth".....from Tucker Calrson???  5555.....too funny.  This is the same Tucker Carlson who's own lawyer argued in court that no reasonable person can possibly take anything Carlson says as fact.  But of course, the Fox News audience isn't known for being "reasonable" people. 

[dotcalm]

5 hours ago, Berkshire said:

..."reality and truth".....from Tucker Calrson???  5555.....too funny.  This is the same Tucker Carlson who's own lawyer argued in court that no reasonable person can possibly take anything Carlson says as fact.  But of course, the Fox News audience isn't known for being "reasonable" people. 

Maybe McCarthy signed up FOX and Tucker to distribute the J6 security videos as a gift, a gesture of sorts to the FOX and Tucker haters. It is peculiar that McCarthy elected this method to release the J6 security videos. It's like he's rubbing it in the lefts face, and the non FOX, Tucker Carlson aficionados of the world

 

And Tucker lies, by his own admission:

https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlson-admits-lies-show-120821690.html

 

But who cares if Tucker lies, its not about that, it's about revealing the video evidence of J6, for all to see, finally.

We should all thank FOX News and Tucker Carlson and of course KM.

Edited February 24, 2023 by dotcalm