A GOP war on 'woke'? Most Americans view the term as a positive, USA TODAY/Ipsos Poll finds

[bamnutsak]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

They can't define it but they know what they hate and they hate an awful lot. 

Thanks for that Vice News video, that is honestly the first time I've heard "wokery" used. Did I spell that correctly?

 

 

And evidently "woke" has financial ramifications.

 

In an odd twist, Sen. Hawley R MO, says that Silicon Valley Bank was "too woke to fail". Meaning, I guess, that the bank was too woke, it failed because it was "woke", and only woke banks get "rescued", and maybe all banks should not be rescued, woke or not? Or maybe only un-woke (is that a word?) banks should be rescued?

 

Understanding "woke" is a lot more challenging than pronouns, those two, three and four letter words we learned in grade school.

 

Josh Hawley labels Silicon Valley Bank 'too woke to fail'

Some Republicans have claimed the bank went down because it was too focused on "woke" policies. But the GOP senator insists those policies are actually the reason it was protected.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/josh-hawley-labels-silicon-valley-bank-woke-fail-rcna75351

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

So imagine you're hiring for a new position and a male candidate arrives 5 min late for interview sporting a shaved head, bright red lip stick, mustache and piercings and one who uses a pronoun other than he or him. Well before the insanity was norm this candidate would never have been considered. But now this clown looking guy gets the job, I'm referring to Sam Brinton, one of biden's stars.

 

Now, please explain how this is positive.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

So imagine you're hiring for a new position and a male candidate arrives 5 min late for interview sporting a shaved head, bright red lip stick, mustache and piercings and one who uses a pronoun other than he or him. Well before the insanity was norm this candidate would never have been considered. But now this clown looking guy gets the job, I'm referring to Sam Brinton, one of biden's stars.

 

Now, please explain how this is positive.

The MSc from MIT might swing it.

 

Oh and the Conversation Therapy’ didn’t work.

[EVENKEEL]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The MSc from MIT might swing it.

 

Oh and the Conversation Therapy’ didn’t work.

So, you have nothing.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

So, you have nothing.

It’s not what I’ve got, it’s what the person you introduced into the conversation as a candidate for employment has got.

 

An MSc from MIT.

 

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The advantage of using "woke" to mock the left is that most understand what it is referring to without having to use a lot of words.

Use some words anyway--what does it refer to?

[bamnutsak]

13 hours ago, heybruce said:

Use some words anyway--what does it refer to?

 

He did. I think.

 

He said it's a shorthand word used to "mock the left".

 

So it's not a "thing". It's an ephemeral "thought" used to express dissatisfaction with something the speaker finds scary and overwhelming.

 

Defining it would limit its universal usage now enjoyed by the right.

 

The use of this word appears to say more about the speaker than the intended target.

 

That said, it won't resonate with a majority of the U.S. population.

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8 hours ago, bendejo said:

The right-wing's propaganda apparatus is quite familiar with how to get the rank and file riled up.  They are actually quite good at it.

Recall people making statements like "I don't know much about Obamacare, but I know I hate it."  The same person could say "hey, I like this Affordable Care Act, they should go with that and get rid of Obamacare." 

And then there is the distraction aspect: the GOP voters are caught in this woke stuff and LGBT threats against their children etc, meanwhile their own GOP politicians are busy taking away and dismantling what they have, even their ability to vote. 

Welcome to the conservative movement!  The less you know the happier you will be.

I think the ignorance of so many of the right wing's rank and file is best exemplified by that famous sign a tea party supporter brandished: "Keep your government's hands off my Medicare"

[EVENKEEL]

Woke does not refer to the left in my view. The woke are a very small group of crazies that has ingrained their weird theriology into the mainstream workplace, education and gov. I have to hand it to the crazies, they somehow make everybody bow down to their insane thinking. These idiots have got the regular folks afraid to speak up, you can't voice any opposition without being called a slew of ism's. 

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I think the ignorance of so many of the right wing's rank and file is best exemplified by that famous sign a tea party supporter brandished: "Keep your government's hands off my Medicare"

Pales in comparison when folks don't know definition of a woman. Men can get pregnant is another.

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12 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Pales in comparison when folks don't know definition of a woman. Men can get pregnant is another.

Thanksf for echoing how right wing politicians play to emotional issues to distract voters from the fact that when it comes to money, it's the wealthy whose interests are dearest to their hearts. 

[EVENKEEL]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Thanksf for echoing how right wing politicians play to emotional issues to distract voters from the fact that when it comes to money, it's the wealthy whose interests are dearest to their hearts. 

Can men become pregnant?  How has this become questionable?

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4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Can men become pregnant?  How has this become questionable?

You're just further proving my point. When it comes to the money, we know whose interests right wing politicians are out to protect. Whether they're in the MAGA camp or not.

[EVENKEEL]

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You're just further proving my point. When it comes to the money, we know whose interests right wing politicians are out to protect. Whether they're in the MAGA camp or not.

And you further my point by not being able to answer a simple question.

 

Money is good, that's why they call it money. Both sides love it.

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45 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

And you further my point by not being able to answer a simple question.

 

Money is good, that's why they call it money. Both sides love it.

Because it's an unimportant issue. And by the way, you specifically said it only applied to a small minority - those who call themselves woke. So by your own words it's unimportant.

And your reply about money is utterly inane and one of the lamest version of "both-sidesism" I have ever read. It's clear that in regards to this, you've got nothing. . Republican politicians feign alarm about the future of social security when there's a simple solution. Tax wealthier Americans via a resumption of SS taxes above a certain income threshold and tax some other tax avoiding transactions of the wealthy to finance it. Americans overwhelmingly support raising taxes on the wealthy to do this. Yet somehow, it's a huge fight to make it happen. Why do you think that something that enjoys so much electoral support is so difficult to enact? 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

Can men become pregnant?  How has this become questionable?

Some trans men can.

But I suspect you knew that.

[bamnutsak]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

The woke are a very small group of crazies that has ingrained their weird theriology into

Can you tell us who makes up this group of "crazies" and "idiots"? I assume you know who they are as you KNOW they are crazy, and are idiots.

 

For a small group to wield such influence they seem to be quite successful. Are they "globalists"?

 

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

These idiots have got the regular folks afraid to speak up, you can't voice any opposition without being called a slew of ism's. 

So you feel oppressed and aggrieved? Do you feel this way when your ideas are criticized?

 

[EVENKEEL]

55 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Some trans men can.

But I suspect you knew that.

They are not men, focus.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

They are not men, focus.

So predictable.

They are trans men.

They exist.

I realize some fascists want to "eradicate" them but not without a fight.

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Pales in comparison when folks don't know definition of a woman. Men can get pregnant is another.

Ya really think that was it? Honestly? Maybe just not taking the bait? 

[AndyFoxy]

5 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

So imagine you're hiring for a new position and a male candidate arrives 5 min late for interview sporting a shaved head, bright red lip stick, mustache and piercings and one who uses a pronoun other than he or him. Well before the insanity was norm this candidate would never have been considered. But now this clown looking guy gets the job, I'm referring to Sam Brinton, one of biden's stars.

 

Now, please explain how this is positive.

I wouldn't hire someone who is that mentally ill. 

[AndyFoxy]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Can men become pregnant?  How has this become questionable?

Men can't become pregnant.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Men can't become pregnant.

Trans men with vaginas can. 

[AndyFoxy]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trans men with vaginas can. 

I'd call that a woman with a vagina who looks/acts like a man

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

I'd call that a woman with a vagina who looks/acts like a man

So you don't have a clue about what transgenderism is huh.

[AndyFoxy]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

So you don't have a clue about what transgenderism is huh.

I do actually. You never learnt that men can’t get pregnant? You possibly think your father gave birth to you?

[Jingthing]

47 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

I do actually. You never learnt that men can’t get pregnant? You possibly think your father gave birth to you?

My father was cisgender so no.

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Trans men with vaginas can. 

The truly sad thing is people believe that.

[Jingthing]

26 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The truly sad thing is people believe that.

How is it sad that people believe facts?

[AndyFoxy]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

My father was cisgender so no.

The fact he was male kind of infers that.