Isaan Woman

[Danderman123]

On 11/4/2023 at 4:01 PM, spidermike007 said:

Many women all over the world are on their best behavior initially, once they have their hooks in you they just don't feel the motivation to continue to behave like decent people, and you start to see who the real person is. This is why I always advocate taking your time, a year, 2 years, 3 years, maybe 5 years to really get another the woman and really get to know who you're dealing with. Her upbringing, her issues, her neurosis, her baggage, how she deals with difficulties and challenges, and whether or not you're able to establish open lines of communication.

 

All of that stuff is essential for a good, healthy long-term relationship. I am with a wonderful woman from Issan, and some of her personal development has come through our discourse and discussions about relationships, and some of it just came from being from a great family and being a wonderful human being. 

 

Don't give up. There are some really good Thai women out there. 

Some Thai women I know treat their Thai husbands like dirt, even though they are very much attached to them. One lady, when she is ready to go home from my condo, phones her husband to come pick her up. When he announces he has arrived, she lets him wait downstairs while she is busy, often for a long time.

 

It may be the case that these Thai ladies support their husbands financially, which may cause a lack of respect for the men.

 

So is not just Farang husbands who are treated like dirt by Isaan ladies.

[owl sees all]

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

So is not just Farang husbands who are treated like dirt by Isaan ladies.

 

An Ozzie pal - unfortunately died unexpectedly some time ago - told me that you can control the Isaan woman with money.

 

She is a strange beast, he wold say. Always a conflict in her head; with desire, money, food and status fighting for prominence.

[spidermike007]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Some Thai women I know treat their Thai husbands like dirt, even though they are very much attached to them. One lady, when she is ready to go home from my condo, phones her husband to come pick her up. When he announces he has arrived, she lets him wait downstairs while she is busy, often for a long time.

 

It may be the case that these Thai ladies support their husbands financially, which may cause a lack of respect for the men.

 

So is not just Farang husbands who are treated like dirt by Isaan ladies.

And it is not just bad behavior on the part of women from Issan, either. Other women are also guilty of this kind of nonsense. And who's responsibility is it anyway? Any man who stays in an abusive relationship is putting himself in a position of being treated like a dog. Who makes the decisions anyway? Who's life is it? We have to take responsibility for our own well being.

[473geo]

3 hours ago, owl sees all said:

 

An Ozzie pal - unfortunately died unexpectedly some time ago - told me that you can control the Isaan woman with money.

 

She is a strange beast, he wold say. Always a conflict in her head; with desire, money, food and status fighting for prominence.

As you know Owl Isaan people gain status by helping out family members, friends, neighbours, lending money when others are in difficulty

When the farang understands this, he also understands why the wife prefers to spend his money first, saving her money, often invested in gold, for a time she may be called upon, perhaps to return a favour or help someone out 

[GammaGlobulin]

On 4/9/2023 at 3:20 PM, Stevey said:

 Two days ago I explained to about seven adults in a village shop where the light they could see on the full moon was coming from

 

You explained HOW MANY times?

 

Try asking the difference between a planet and a star and a comet.

 

Or, where is the Oort cloud, for that matter.

 

Try asking:  What powers the Sun?   They have no clue.

 

Or, ask them whether gravity is a wave or a particle?  They do not know.

 

Then aske them....WHERE IS THE DARK MATTER OF THE UNIVERSE????  And...WHAT IS IT!???  They know not!

 

I kid you not.

 

 

[youreavinalaff]

3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

You explained HOW MANY times?

 

Try asking the difference between a planet and a star and a comet.

 

Or, where is the Oort cloud, for that matter.

 

Try asking:  What powers the Sun?   They have no clue.

 

Or, ask them whether gravity is a wave or a particle?  They do not know.

 

Then aske them....WHERE IS THE DARK MATTER OF THE UNIVERSE????  And...WHAT IS IT!???  They know not!

 

I kid you not.

 

 

Sarcasm?

 

Try asking the expats in Thailand. Many of them wouldn't be able to answer.

[owl sees all]

On 12/21/2023 at 11:56 PM, youreavinalaff said:

Sarcasm?

 

Try asking the expats in Thailand. Many of them wouldn't be able to answer.

Don't even understand the question!

[Stevey]

On 12/21/2023 at 7:59 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

 

You explained HOW MANY times?

 

Try asking the difference between a planet and a star and a comet.

 

Or, where is the Oort cloud, for that matter.

 

Try asking:  What powers the Sun?   They have no clue.

 

Or, ask them whether gravity is a wave or a particle?  They do not know.

 

Then aske them....WHERE IS THE DARK MATTER OF THE UNIVERSE????  And...WHAT IS IT!???  They know not!

 

I kid you not.

 

 

I don’t think I know the answers to your other questions but I’d like to think that by the time these dog cruelty specialists have reached adulthood they may have wondered about how the immediate machinations of what’s happening around them. Like how is it dark in Thailand when they are on a video call to me in the UK. 

[Stevey]

On 12/21/2023 at 11:56 PM, youreavinalaff said:

Sarcasm?

 

Try asking the expats in Thailand. Many of them wouldn't be able to answer.

 

There’s a level of interest  to know cut off point. Absolutely no one needs to know some egg heads opinion on what powers the sun or what dark matter is. I have little interest personally in there guesses of what dark matter is or how a star explodes 4million light years ago has just reached my ears. When I hear stuff about the galaxy etc I just glaze over in half belief. On the night in the local shop when I asked the assembled villagers why the Moon was white and they couldn’t answer was surprising.

[cdemundo]

On 4/9/2023 at 3:28 PM, Stevey said:

Lovely to make you acquaintance. Are you the same guy who said you “speak ‘Good’ Thai “ in a previous thread I saw today ? 
 

I like to say that I can speak Thai, I receive calls in Thai from drivers et cetera and I go to the vets and the Hospital where no one can speak English and I speak Thai. I can stop anywhere I’ll speak with Thai people. I even listen to my 5year old boy who cannot speak English tell me last nights dream but I’ve never had the outright audacity to say I speak “good“ Thai. You’re obviously one of life’s winners, and I commend everything you say to the house.

I find a lot of people to be very generous in their self appraisals.

Nothing unusual about it, tough to be accurate in judging ourselves.

 

[GammaGlobulin]

18 minutes ago, Stevey said:

I don’t think I know the answers to your other questions but I’d like to think that by the time these dog cruelty specialists have reached adulthood they may have wondered about how the immediate machinations of what’s happening around them. Like how is it dark in Thailand when they are on a video call to me in the UK. 

 

Average IQ in Thailand = 89

 

So, it's understandable that there may be some flat-earthers here, too.

 

 

[youreavinalaff]

4 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Average IQ in Thailand = 89

 

So, it's understandable that there may be some flat-earthers here, too.

 

 

Do you really think there is a link between low IQ and believing the earth is flat?

[Nick Carter icp]

Issan woman on the way back to Pattaya after the New years celebrations at home 

 

[Stevey]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Issan woman on the way back to Pattaya after the New years celebrations at home 

 

She’d get it ….

[Phulublub]

On 4/9/2023 at 2:57 PM, Stevey said:

How much has that cost you ? 
 

I selected an option in my price range. I stay in a village where nobody can speak English and women appear to rule the roost as they sit around eating SomTam and shout orders at children. I’m sorry but these lot do not have the intelligence to be in charge, they just are and the men are too frightened to stand up to them. 
 

I can only take your word that your missus who I’m sure is lovely , is lovely.

"Men are too frightened...".  Perhaps a look in the mirror might show someone who needs to be less frightened.  Or move on.  It appears you may be as much the problem as your wife.

 

PH

[youreavinalaff]

5 hours ago, Stevey said:

 

There’s a level of interest  deliriumsteve AT hotmail.com to know cut off point. Absolutely no one needs to know some egg heads opinion on what powers the sun or what dark matter is. I have little interest personally in there guesses of what dark matter is or how a star explodes 4million light years ago has just reached my ears. When I hear stuff about the galaxy etc I just glaze over in half belief. On the night in the local shop when I asked the assembled villagers why the Moon was white and they couldn’t answer was surprising.

If that is the way you speak to the locals, no wonder they don't understand.

[youreavinalaff]

21 minutes ago, Stevey said:

She’d get it ….

She wouldn't from you.

 

Remember this; "If anyone had told me that these Isaan women were like this I’d have avoided them like the plague."

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said:

Do you really think there is a link between low IQ and believing the earth is flat?

 

Yes.

 

There is also a link between listening to classical music, such as JS Bach, and IQ, for that matter.

 

 

[youreavinalaff]

8 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Yes.

 

There is also a link between listening to classical music, such as JS Bach, and IQ, for that matter.

 

 

Oh dear. 

 

I guess you have proof of such claims.

[freeworld]

7 hours ago, Stevey said:

On the night in the local shop when I asked the assembled villagers why the Moon was white and they couldn’t answer was surprising

Could the answer be its made out of white cheese?

Edited January 1 by freeworld

[GammaGlobulin]

2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Oh dear. 

 

I guess you have proof of such claims.

 

Yes. 

Easy to google the information, in fact.

 

[youreavinalaff]

50 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Yes. 

Easy to google the information, in fact.

 

Then please do, and post some links. Thanks.

Edited January 1 by youreavinalaff

[fredwiggy]

13 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Yes.

 

There is also a link between listening to classical music, such as JS Bach, and IQ, for that matter.

 

 

It isn't about listening to the music that does anything. People with a higher average IQ will listen to a variety of music. Some of the smarter, if you regard having a higher IQ as smarter, will be listeners of classical music, maybe because of the intricacies of the music itself, although other music has this also. Higher IQ people tend to be more curious about the world and this also has some to do with what they enjoy in music.

[Skipalongcassidy]

22 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It isn't about listening to the music that does anything. People with a higher average IQ will listen to a variety of music. Some of the smarter, if you regard having a higher IQ as smarter, will be listeners of classical music, maybe because of the intricacies of the music itself, although other music has this also. Higher IQ people tend to be more curious about the world and this also has some to do with what they enjoy in music.

That must be why they play the same loud music over and over every night

[Denim]

20 hours ago, Stevey said:

On the night in the local shop when I asked the assembled villagers why the Moon was white and they couldn’t answer was surprising.

 

Hope you told them that such a huge quantity of cheese that constitutes the bulk of the moons matter has a luminence strong enough to reach our planet.

Basic science but Thais don't  eat much cheese hence the gap in their knowledge.

[GammaGlobulin]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

It isn't about listening to the music that does anything. People with a higher average IQ will listen to a variety of music. Some of the smarter, if you regard having a higher IQ as smarter, will be listeners of classical music, maybe because of the intricacies of the music itself, although other music has this also. Higher IQ people tend to be more curious about the world and this also has some to do with what they enjoy in music.

 

This is correct.

This is what the data shows.

This was my meaning.

 

And, this is why, in Thailand, people listen to the grade of music they do, is my guess.

 

 

Very simple music with an easily detectable and predictable drum beat.

 

 

[KhunLA]

46 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

This is correct.

This is what the data shows.

This was my meaning.

 

And, this is why, in Thailand, people listen to the grade of music they do, is my guess.

 

 

Very simple music with an easily detectable and predictable drum beat.

That certainly puts the IQ of the western world in question ..

... "Macarena" 

"The remix hit the top of the Billboard Hot 100 in 1996 and remained at the top of the charts for 14 weeks — one of the longest number-one runs in the chart's history. It peaked at number two in the UK, kept off the top spot only by the Spice Girls' “Wannabe”

[fredwiggy]

30 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

That certainly puts the IQ of the western world in question ..

... "Macarena" 

"The remix hit the top of the Billboard Hot 100 in 1996 and remained at the top of the charts for 14 weeks — one of the longest number-one runs in the chart's history. It peaked at number two in the UK, kept off the top spot only by the Spice Girls' “Wannabe”

If you know music and are really into good music, you know that a lot of what many others considers good is simple, dance rhythms and beats people can move to. That goes for the west as well as here in Thailand or Asia. Much of what is actually some of the better music released every year doesn't get worldwide promotion, and a lot of people will never be exposed to what is actually good. Even people that are really smart can like simple music that's largely electronic and doesn't involve good musicians. Thai people love to dance, and we hear the kind of music that's played all year here. Loud drum beats, squealing guitar playing and simple repeated notes. There are a few musicians here in Thailand that are pretty good. I still don't consider them as world class musicians like the one's I've listened to over 50 years, but I've been surprised in some I hear played here. I'm talking about instruments mostly, or parts of songs that are instrumental., because a lot of music here is pop copied from western sounds, and some of the sung words do not mix with the music. Those really into good music will understand this, if they are those who've been listening to good western (meaning American, European) music all their lives. I grew up in the 50's through now, along with the disco sounds I despised, with the exception of meeting girls in same clubs, and a lot of women love to dance, and like the dance music because of this. I won't waste time, which in life is already too short, listening to music I don't consider good.  Rap, hip hop, dance, electronica and the like, aren't worth my time.  and would rather spend my time listening to good rock, jazz, blues, metal, country, folk, classical, fusion, country rock, and folk rock. Much of the music you hear here blasted is what the younger crowd goes for. The same as in America. The older you get, usually, the more you gravitate to the better , more melodic, and better crafted sounds. The Macarena, a song I consider silly, is a song people can move to, which is why it was written. If you look at the bands that get into the music hall of fame, you wonder why, while so many much better musicians are ignored, at least for awhile. More younger voters, who don't know or understand what makes good music. There artists that are multi millionaires that make blase pop music that have millions of fans worldwide, just because of a few words in the song they can relate to, or because they can move to it. Beyonce, Madonna, Miley, and the like all know what makes money, and it mostly all sounds the same. Millions of people will never hear of Joe Bonamassa, Mark Knopfler, David Gilmour, Paul Rodgers, Mostly Autumn, Enya, and many progressive rock bands because most of what's really promoted is the former pap. I myself have turned my girlfriend here onto a lot of good western music, and since she understands English well, she can relate to it. She loves Thai music also, and I see this by what she listens to by herself, but she is surely one of the exceptions here, as most Thais will never hear most of what's really good music because most of what finds it's way here is the pop. There are many expats here, and some surely listen to some of the world's good music, but if they're wives aren't open minded or don't understand English well, much of what is played around them is lost as background noise. Instrumental music is the exception here, as that has no borders. Some of the musicians here seek out sheet music from the west, and this you can see in their playing, meaning mostly  guitar, but also wood instruments, drums and strings.  

Edited January 2 by fredwiggy

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

That certainly puts the IQ of the western world in question ..

... "Macarena" 

"The remix hit the top of the Billboard Hot 100 in 1996 and remained at the top of the charts for 14 weeks — one of the longest number-one runs in the chart's history. It peaked at number two in the UK, kept off the top spot only by the Spice Girls' “Wannabe”

 

USA IQ is about 97 to 98.

Dummies compared to Japan, HK, Shanghai, etc.

 

https://psmag.com/social-justice/classical-music-linked-to-high-intelligence-27959

 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Thai people love to dance, and we hear the kind of music that's played all year here.

 

You mean they got rhythm?