Transwoman fined for dancing naked on Bang Saen Beach

[Liverpool Lou]

Just now, ozimoron said:

22 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Which credible "science" is that then? 

posted already

Credible science?  Don't think so.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

10 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

About what?

Whether he is still a man or now a woman ?

I don't need to "make up my mind", he's still a man.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Credible science?  Don't think so.

He's a Princeton Professor and you imagine that his work is not peer reviewed and that he is alone among academics in the world taking this stance?

 

You don't like it. I don't care either way. The difference is just one of tolerance or lack thereof.  I like science.

Edited April 25, 2023 by ozimoron

[Liverpool Lou]

Just now, ozimoron said:

He's a Princeton Professor and you imagine that his work is not peer reviewed and that he is alone among academics in the world taking this stance?

Just because he reaches at a university and is not alone in his view does not make him "credible science"!

[Skallywag]

16 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Should it? Why does it matter?

 

The rest of the world has moved on with the science which has long determined that gender isn't binary. Just the haters are interested in forcing their hate upon others less fortunate. Sad.

Science has not changed.  there are only 2 genders biologically.  

 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

Just because he reaches at a university and is not alone in his view does not make him "credible science"!

Sure, but if I was a betting man I pout my money on his research being peer reviewed. Universities tend to do that. Oh wait, they always do.

[ozimoron]

Just now, Skallywag said:

Science has not changed.  there are only 2 genders biologically. 

Link?

[transam]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

He's a Princeton Professor and you imagine that his work is not peer reviewed and that he is alone among academics in the world taking this stance?

 

You don't like it. I don't care either way. The difference is just one of tolerance or lack thereof.  I like science.

No, you have no respect for women.............

[transam]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Sure, but if I was a betting man I pout my money on his research being peer reviewed. Universities tend to do that. Oh wait, they always do.

I bet you bought an MG...................????

[ozimoron]

Just now, transam said:

No, you have no respect for women.............

I have huge respect for science.

[transam]

Just now, ozimoron said:

I have huge respect for science.

Oh no you don't, you are just mixed up with what a woman is and a the woman's differences during their life being a woman.............????

 

You tell me what menstruation and menopause is, NOW..............?

[d4dang]

glad I missed it

[Keep Right]

17 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

Cue right wing outrage at a perfectly intelligible descriptor because it doesn't convey sufficient insult.

Oh my, we must of hit a nerve with you. What kind of pronoun would you like?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Keep Right said:

Oh my, we must of hit a nerve with you. What kind of pronoun would you like?

Mr. Straight would be accurate. I'm not a team player or a an intolerant bigot.

Edited April 25, 2023 by ozimoron

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

The rest of the world meaning other than the angry old white bigots complaining about using non insulting terminology to describe transgenders. I don't mean other countries.

Perhaps you need to be more clear, we're not  mind readers.

[Pink Mist]

A baiting post as well as a reply has been removed.  Stay on topic and quit antagonizing each other.  Please review the forum rules.

 

10. You will not post troll messages. Trolling is the act of purposefully antagonizing forum members by posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking other members into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

[AgMech Cowboy]

22 hours ago, proton said:

Do we have to call ladyboys trans women now then?

NO! We live in Thailand and do not need to start using the 'Western' attempts to identify the people who have decided they were born with the wrong sex organs.

[AgMech Cowboy]

21 hours ago, Denim said:

I thought it was their breasts and vagina ? So confusing these days. Hard to keep up with the trends.

That's why we just keep using what worked for a 1000 years.  Lady-boy... His...  There is only one person.

[KannikaP]

22 hours ago, bignok said:

Transman is more accurate.

No, a transwoman is man to woman, and transman is vice versa, if that's how you like your Vice!

[SAFETY FIRST]

22 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

23 hours ago, bignok said:

Transman is more accurate.

No, a transwoman is man to woman, and transman is vice versa, if that's how you like your Vice!

I can cope with seeing a transwoman vagina, but I hope never to see a transman penis. ????

Edited April 25, 2023 by SAFETY FIRST

[bignok]

58 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

No, a transwoman is man to woman, and transman is vice versa, if that's how you like your Vice!

It is a man wanting to be female. Ok with me. Less competition.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

NO! We live in Thailand and do not need to start using the 'Western' attempts to identify the people who have decided they were born with the wrong sex organs.

You missed the point which is that you don't need to fall off the turnip truck when somebody else calls them something other than your favourite slur.

[SAFETY FIRST]

7 hours ago, Skallywag said:

Science has not changed.  there are only 2 genders biologically.  

 

Yep, totally agree. 

 

Gender Should only be determined by chromosomes. 

 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yep, totally agree. 

 

Gender Should only be determined by chromosomes. 

 

Whereas in fact it's determined by genes.

[transam]

Just now, ozimoron said:

Whereas in fact it's determined by genes.

And whether they have a monthly menstruation, did you know that....?  

[SAFETY FIRST]

40 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

47 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yep, totally agree. 

Gender Should only be determined by chromosomes. 

Whereas in fact it's determined by genes.

Agree but what I'm saying is that there are so many fake genders these days we should remove the non genders and only determine who is who (male or female) by who has XX or XY chromosomes.
 

 

the sex chromosomes, differ between males and females. Females have two copies of the X chromosome, while males have one X and one Y chromosome.

Edited April 25, 2023 by SAFETY FIRST

[mikebike]

On 4/24/2023 at 5:37 PM, proton said:

Do we have to call ladyboys trans women now then?

What else are they? 

[youngexpat]

The level of trans intolerance on a thailand internet forum always blows my mind.

 

If you live here and have never been friends with a ladyboy you need to get out more.

 

Ironically referring to trans women as she/her has always seemd natural to me but they/them/third person pronouns make a lot less sense to me.

 

But i'm happy to let people pick whatever lane makes a them happy.

 

[ozimoron]

21 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Agree but what I'm saying is that there are so many fake genders these days we should remove the non genders and only determine who is who (male or female) by who has XX or XY chromosomes.
 

 

the sex chromosomes, differ between males and females. Females have two copies of the X chromosome, while males have one X and one Y chromosome.

It's not about the science for many here. It's about wanting to denigrate the few unlucky people who got dealt and bad hand and don't fit neatly into the binary concept of male and female. Science supports that and everything else is homophobia.

[CG1 Blue]

9 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

I have never read so many comments that shows that a lot of the members are not knowing what is going on in the transsexual world.... maybe a bit googling would give you some background and information

You're mistaken. We know what's going on, we just think it's nonsense.