MrMojoRisin Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, SoilSpoil said: I was there as well. Walked though the 'fort' a couple of times. All the red, yellow, blue and white uprisings have the Shinawatra clan and their policies at heart. Conservative refusal to accept democracy is at the heart of all the political strife of the past 20 years. But don’t worry, the good guys have finally won and democracy is now here to stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, h90 said: I know several were shot by the military....and also several military were shot by the protestors. But that does not justify to burn some random houses. And my point was: I don't want to have that again, no matter if the red shirts, the man in Dubai or the military is the greater evil. I would rather don't have any of it and boring peace instead. Accept democracy and there is no street violence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Accept democracy and there is no street violence. As long as the outcome of that democracy suits your agenda. That would be a democracy that includes a 10,000 Baht inducement to vote for you? Edited May 5, 2023 by hotandsticky . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoilSpoil Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Conservative refusal to accept democracy is at the heart of all the political strife of the past 20 years. But don’t worry, the good guys have finally won and democracy is now here to stay. Which good guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Who are the favorites in the race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: As long as the outcome of that democracy suits your agenda. That would be a democracy that includes a 10,000 Baht inducement to vote for you? As long as it is a free and fair election I care not who wins. Why is it so hard for you junta fanatics to simply accept the will of the people (i.e. democracy). You all twist and distort yourselves into gordian knots trying to defend the indefensible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SoilSpoil said: Which good guys? Pro democracy good guys. Edited May 5, 2023 by MrMojoRisin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 should he decide to go that route, there just might be a top military guy who thinks otherwise - and step in and boot him out - remember this is Thailand, the hub of coups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Accept democracy and there is no street violence. sure, if all play fair and don't brake any laws, everyone should accept it. And I hope you'll think the same when the parties will be disbanded for braking the law. The 10.000 Baht for everyone has the potential and Future Forward also has something already at the court. I am sure if they get disbanded the Red Shirts get angry. If not the yellow...No one will accept the outcome and all will believe they alone are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Artisi said: should he decide to go that route, there just might be a top military guy who thinks otherwise - and step in and boot him out - remember this is Thailand, the hub of coups. I think we are already over the average time between coups or? If Thailand would make a public holiday for every new constitution we wouldn't need to work anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoilSpoil Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 37 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Pro democracy good guys. They are as rare as blue bananas here in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, SoilSpoil said: They are as rare as blue bananas here in Thailand. They’re the majority of Thais. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoilSpoil Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: They’re the majority of Thais. Ok, got it. Sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, h90 said: 3 hours ago, Eric Loh said: If I can recollect, those implicated red shirts were aquitted by the Courts. You have new evidence? my evidence is, I was there and saw the burned houses and everything still smell like burned things.....The evidence were my own eyes. Your evidence is that there were burned buildings, and nobody will deny that. Where is your evidence that they were burned down by the red shirts acquitted by the courts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2023 37 minutes ago, SoilSpoil said: They are as rare as blue bananas here in Thailand. 77 political parties and close to 40 million Thais participated in the last election. I wouldn’t call that kind of democratic participation rare. If not for the skewed constitution, voters intimidation, dissolution of a major party and the rubber stamping senators, the junta party and the Prayut would not have been the government. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, SoilSpoil said: Ok, got it. Sarcasm Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Eric Loh said: If I can recollect, those implicated red shirts were aquitted by the Courts. You have new evidence? Evidence has never been a requirement for acquittal here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, h90 said: Sure there are many.....but big demonstrations without payment? Sure some people will demonstrate but not many. Wait and see, if the election goes against the public vote it will not sit well with the people who voted for change. Also wait to see it the Pheu Thai or move forward party are dissolved after the election. That will be the catalyst to set things off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Dan O said: Evidence has never been a requirement for acquittal here OK it's Friday and time for some comic relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felton Jarvis Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Prayut cannot be stopped. He is in office until his heart stops. President for Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 whatever the outcome, it looks like some interesting times ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said: Prayut cannot be stopped. He is in office until his heart stops. President for Life. now that is very very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: OK it's Friday and time for some comic relief. No sadly that's an actual fact and has happened many times over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 10 hours ago, SoilSpoil said: Yes and no. This rule was voted in by a majority of Thai through a referendum on the latest constitutiion. Not a lot of people read the constitution before they gave their vote. 61% of a 59% turnout. Campaigning for a no vote was not allowed, and in less than "reliable areas" it was made as difficult as possible to cast a vote. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 How dodgy will the vote counting be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 6 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said: As long as it is a free and fair election I care not who wins. Why is it so hard for you junta fanatics to simply accept the will of the people (i.e. democracy). You all twist and distort yourselves into gordian knots trying to defend the indefensible. I don't think you have the slightest idea what democracy means as far as Thailand is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoilSpoil Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: 61% of a 59% turnout. Campaigning for a no vote was not allowed, and in less than "reliable areas" it was made as difficult as possible to cast a vote. The 59% is irrelevant of course. Fact is that a majority voted yes, whether we find that democratic or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: I don't think you have the slightest idea what democracy means as far as Thailand is concerned. Democracy means democracy. You will witness it starting May 14. The good guys have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 I believe if he tried to steal the election, the response would be overwhelming. It could be the last thing he ever does. He and the army are despised like never before. And any moral authority is gone. Everything has changed. See ya, Prayuth. Nobody is going to miss you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 7 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said: Conservative refusal to accept democracy is at the heart of all the political strife of the past 20 years. But don’t worry, the good guys have finally won and democracy is now here to stay. What kind of democracy...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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