Thaksin Shinawatra's imminent homecoming: A risky move for Pheu Thai

[Chongalulu]

6 hours ago, bignok said:

Thai Jesus.

You think he’s gonna be crucified?! 

[zzaa09]

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

I guess we never know since military leaders and their political allies rarely see a day in court. The investigative agencies and the courts tend to give them a wide berth. 

.....as they're all presently controlled and managed by the same highly illegal Junta gang - so makes sense that they wouldn't be eating their own. 

 

Imagine the possibilities of a solid opposition majority that might see it fit to pursue criminal charges towards the illustrious and criminally organized coup makers/Junta. Though, in our hearts we all know that would never come about. Which should really shed some light on the truer nature of the "opposition" coalitions. 

[sambum]

24 minutes ago, DjSilver said:

I think I speak for most people, no matter Thai or expats, that we would rather have Thaksin as Prime Minister than Prayut. However, Thanathorn would would have been the best Prime Minister for Thailand. Sad, that Prayut is controlling the courts in Thailand.

Sad that Prayut got there in the first place! By overthrowing a democratically elected Government he paved the way for himself to control everything he wants to control - 250 senators as an example!

[Chongalulu]

He needs to make a grand entrance for maximum impact. May  I suggest arriving with the Red Bull heir in handcuffs? 

[Phoenix Rising]

Welcome home! I hope you can once and for all rid Thailand of the corrupt old elite and help Thailand on its way of becoming a true democracy.

I would absolutely LOVE to see the coup leader in handcuffs! And imagine seeing his no. 2 right next to him wearing a orange jumpsuit and an extremely cheap and scruffy Timex. 

Edited May 6, 2023 by Phoenix Rising

[Eric Loh]

1 minute ago, zzaa09 said:

.....as they're all presently controlled and managed by the same highly illegal Junta gang - so makes sense that they wouldn't be eating their own. 

 

Imagine the possibilities of a solid opposition majority that might see it fit to pursue criminal charges towards the illustrious and criminally organized coup makers/Junta. Though, in our hearts we all know that would never come about. Which should really shed some light on the truer nature of the "opposition" coalitions. 

Can’t pursue any criminal charges towards the coup leaders as they have written their own amnesty in the constitution. Just show how bent these military crooks are. Politics have been in state of decline in Thailand since democracy was given to the people in 1932. The main corrupters are the military  and the elites and their desire for their preservation. I still have confidence that people power will prevail like in Indonesia and Philippines 

[Reigntax]

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Great idea!

Come home, go to jail, and give all your money to your grandchildren. And please don't involve them in politics if you care about them.

And if you live long enough not to die in jail then maybe you will be able to live in a decade or two together with your grandchildren.

Come home. Now. You will get free accommodation and food for years. We are waiting for you! What are you waiting for? 

Surprise!!!!

The nutters come out of the woodwork whenever Thaksins name is mentioned

[zzaa09]

5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Can’t pursue any criminal charges towards the coup leaders as they have written their own amnesty in the constitution. Just show how bent these military crooks are. Politics have been in state of decline in Thailand since democracy was given to the people in 1932. The main corrupters are the military  and the elites and their desire for their preservation. I still have confidence that people power will prevail like in Indonesia and Philippines 

I might correct you [and most others] regarding your take on 1932 events [military/civilian coup] and the false history presented.

Definitely, had nothing whatsoever to do with creating a democratic state - just an exchange in repressive regimes. 

 

Do some real investigative and objective research on the subject matter.  

This ever-repeated dreamy domain of the beloved and bookmarked 1932 is most amusing to observe. 

[Eric Loh]

5 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

I might correct you [and most others] regarding your take on 1932 events [military/civilian coup] and the false history presented.

Definitely, had nothing whatsoever to do with creating a democratic state - just an exchange in repressive regimes. 

 

Do some real investigative and objective research on the subject matter.  

This ever-repeated dreamy domain of the beloved and bookmarked 1932 is most amusing to observe. 

The reason that year and day in 1932 is still celebrated as Constitution Day and the dawn of democracy. Not a perfect constitution but still the first constitution necessary for democracy to begin. Learn from this momentous event. 

[wombat]

is there a statute of limitations on what he was busted for?

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

Well.....actually there is.

An illegally placed and operating Junta that designed his and his sister's forced exiles is preventing his [their] return. 

The same illegal and immoral circle that dreamt up charges [whether guilty or not, doesn't stand as a legal writ] of reputed distinction.....

Actions by the junta is not the only thing stopping his return.

 

He broke serious laws, was convicted and sentenced, that's why he fled. 

[scorecard]

2 minutes ago, wombat said:

is there a statute of limitations on what he was busted for?

I guess you mean for each and every crime he committed, was charged for, found guilty and sentenced, here's several. 

[MrMojoRisin]

22 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Actions by the junta is not the only thing stopping his return.

 

He broke serious laws, was convicted and sentenced, that's why he fled. 

What laws?

Convicted by who?

Why is Interpol not involved?

[MrJ2U]

9 hours ago, watchcat said:

Nobody's stopping you.

The Junta that overthrew him is making it difficult.

 

 

[scorecard]

4 hours ago, NoshowJones said:

Who made the most money so far, Thaksin or the unelected caretaker PM? If I said, I would only be guessing. One is an elected politician, the other is a soldier with a soldiers mentality.

Get it in the right perspective. The paymaster was/is hightly corrupt, as is his family (along with his numerous scaly cronies), that's well estblished.

 

The current guy is no better. 

 

That doesn't mean the paymster should be magically reinstated!

Edited May 6, 2023 by scorecard

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

What laws?

Convicted by who?

Why is Interpol not involved?

Google is your friend, he broke many serious laws and set up unethical loans etc., to neighbring countries.

 

He was eventually charged under th laws of Thailand and these cases progressed through the Thai courts and on sveral charges he was found guilty. 

 

Why would interpol be involved? 

 

Edited May 6, 2023 by scorecard

[bristolgeoff]

He will only come back if he can stay out of jail or have a agreement with  the gov.

[pomchop]

6 hours ago, Srikcir said:

"A Thai court on Monday issued an arrest warrant for fugitive former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra after he failed to turn up for a defamation case filed against him by the army."

Ref.

OCTOBER 12, 20152:07 AM UPDATED 8 YEARS AGO

"Arrest warrant issued for ex-Thai PM Thaksin over court no-show"

The Army that subsequently overthrew an elected government!?!

an arrest warrant issued by a judiciary picked by the coup generals....what a surprise....why didn't the also issue arrest warrants for overthrowing the govt with a coup?......too bad the same judiciary seems unable to demand/find the red bull punk....not a lot of creditability there...

[billd766]

7 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Doesn't he have outstanding warrants?

Brought by an illegal coup government. If the military coup was illegal, then so are the warrants.

[billd766]

6 hours ago, scorecard said:

"Let me go home and raise my grandchildren,” 

 

So does he expect that on arrival in the LOS he would be a free man to go anywhere with no restrictions whatever, do whatever he wishes, comment with no restrictions.

 

Does he have any respect for the law and for past judicial processes and findings. He's a convicted fellon, found guilty without any doubt and sentenced to punishment including jail.

 

And there more findings and charges.

 

So seems that he believes he's not subject to the laws and judicial findings of Thailand. This is just what Thailand doesn't need!!!

 

Well proven he's and his cronies are very corrupt. Does anybody seriously believe he's totally/permenantly reformed?

 

I don't!

 

Convicted by whom?

 

The army backed courts of the illegal coup that overthrew the legally elected government.

 

If the coup was illegal, then the convictions certainly are.

[scorecard]

5 hours ago, DjSilver said:

I think I speak for most people, no matter Thai or expats, that we would rather have Thaksin as Prime Minister than Prayut. However, Thanathorn would would have been the best Prime Minister for Thailand. Sad, that Prayut is controlling the courts in Thailand.

"I think I speak for most people, no matter Thai or expats,..."

 

I don't agree, I don't want to see the pymster of the general as the next PM.

Both are unacceptble to any country as a PM. 

 

[billd766]

4 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Can’t pursue any criminal charges towards the coup leaders as they have written their own amnesty in the constitution. Just show how bent these military crooks are. Politics have been in state of decline in Thailand since democracy was given to the people in 1932. The main corrupters are the military  and the elites and their desire for their preservation. I still have confidence that people power will prevail like in Indonesia and Philippines 

Of course they can pursue any criminal charges towards the coup leaders as they have written their own amnesty in the constitution.

 

Simply tear up the constitution as ALL the coup governments have done and either get the Thai people to write a new one, or use the 1997 constitution and update it.

 

That will rid the country of the UNELECTED senate, and make sure the every general involved (along with Suthep and his cronies) gets jailed for life with NO time off.

[zzaa09]

4 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Welcome home! I hope you can once and for all rid Thailand of the corrupt old elite and help Thailand on its way of becoming a true democracy.

I would absolutely LOVE to see the coup leader in handcuffs! And imagine seeing his no. 2 right next to him wearing a orange jumpsuit and an extremely cheap and scruffy Timex. 

Hopes springs eternal 

[kingstonkid]

5 hours ago, soalbundy said:

regarding your last sentence ;- Like, that matters?

It was one of their promises and I am willing to bet that if students don't get the money that and the loss of the 10,000 will set them off.

 

Thais want what they are promised and add those things along with the wage increase and for those that drink the Thaksin Kool Aid will get upset if he does not return.

 

[kingstonkid]

2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

What laws?

Convicted by who?

Why is Interpol not involved?

The last thing that Thailand needs is Thaksin coming back.  

 

Right now, he is the voice and money man, BUT if he comes back and is arrested and taken to jail or under house arrest would be a lightning rod.

[kickstart]

10 hours ago, TimeMachine said:

When Thaksin was here in Thailand I didn't have a problem with him because I didn't have anything that affected me in a bad way. Even if misappropriation took place, it didn't matter, it doesn't matter. It will always happen whoever is in. And now more than ever we are more affected by individual people behind desks in organisations doing a bad job. The chance of a leader fixing that is none. Nothing really matters. Keep healthy all.

It might not have affected you, if you were here, but it did affect most of the farangs living in the Kingdom at that time.

When he was PM, overnight he just doubled the amount of money needed on deposit for marriage and retirement extensions.

[zzaa09]

57 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Brought by an illegal coup government. If the military coup was illegal, then so are the warrants.

Exactly. Pot...kettle...black and these things.

All of the said charges tend to contradict themselves in falsehoods. 

[zzaa09]

8 minutes ago, kickstart said:

It might not have affected you, if you were here, but it did affect most of the farangs living in the Kingdom at that time.

When he was PM, overnight he just doubled the amount of money needed on deposit for marriage and retirement extensions.

Perhaps he doesn't care for Farang.

Rightly so. 

[Dr B]

5 hours ago, Red Forever said:

When I saw the subject I knew who would reply with their accustomed venom and I wasn't disappointed.

For what it's worth; Thaksin was already a very wealthy businessman before entering politics so didn't need to rob the Thai people.

While I agree that "Thaksin was a very wealthy businessman before entering politics", I cannot agree with the rest of the sentence. He became very wealthy by selling overpriced computers to the Police and the Army, and then by obtaining a monopoly for satellite communications and sale of mobile phones at elevated prices. That was all robbing the Thai people. Unfortunately, as often seems to happen with the very rich, they can then never have enough, so Thaksin needed to continue to "rob the Thai people" to try to increase his already considerable wealth.

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

Google is your friend, he broke many serious laws and set up unethical loans etc., to neighbring countries.

 

He was eventually charged under th laws of Thailand and these cases progressed through the Thai courts and on sveral charges he was found guilty. 

 

Why would interpol be involved? 

 

Thailand government got Interpol involved asking them to issue a Red Alert for the arrest of Thaksin. Interpol simply shrugged off the request from the post coup government. That’s how much the international community feel about Thaksin’s charges.