onthedarkside Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 State supreme court justices are disproportionately White and don’t reflect the diverse populations they serve, a new report has found. According to statistics released by the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law, only 20% of justices are people of color despite Black, Latino, Asian American, Native American and multiracial people making up 40% of the US population. Additionally, the study found that in 18 states, all state supreme court justices were White. READ MORE https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/16/us/supreme-court-justice-diversity-reaj/index.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Sad but true.But we are slowly moving towards a more egalitarian society and frankly that simple fact scares the holey c%&@ out of some folks 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JackGats Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Underrepresented in the Supreme Court? So are atheists, drug users, Buddhists, gang-bang wives, scientists, digital nomads, vegetarians, antinatalists ... My skin is off-white except when I've been in the sun for weeks, then it turns light brown. Do I qualify as being "of color"? I'd like to because I like free lunches as well. Edited May 17, 2023 by JackGats 4 1 2 2 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndyFoxy Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 What does colour have to do with it? Should be the best person for the job, regardless of colour. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: What does colour have to do with it? Should be the best person for the job, regardless of colour. Judges should reflect somewhat the society that they are judging. With a greater diversity of judge backwards justice will tend to improve and decisions better accepted by more people. Not about quotas or perfection. There are well qualified candidates from very diverse backgrounds. Edited May 17, 2023 by Jingthing 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Judges should reflect somewhat the society that they are judging. With a greater diversity of judge backwards justice will tend to improve and decisions better accepted by more people. Not about quotas or perfection. There are well qualified candidates from very diverse backgrounds. Like I say, choose the best person for the job.....colour shouldn't come into it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: Like I say, choose the best person for the job.....colour shouldn't come into it. When it comes to how it actually happens that a court is all straight white men that is incredibly naive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jingthing said: When it comes to how it actually happens that a court is all straight white men that is incredibly naive. What difference does it make what their sexuality is or what their race is ? Are Black people and White people different or something ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustAnotherHun Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Needed skills should be the only criteria to get a job. Quotes are BS and a severe threat to democrazy. Why only quotes for women and PoC? Why not quotes for handicaped people, Muslims, Bhuddhists, Lesbians & Gays, vegetarians etc? Edited May 17, 2023 by JustAnotherHun 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: What difference does it make what their sexuality is or what their race is ? Are Black people and White people different or something ? According to some people on here....yes. Personally, I just wanna see the best people doing the best job. Regardless of race. But for many Americans it seems, a lot seems to revolve around race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, Jingthing said: When it comes to how it actually happens that a court is all straight white men that is incredibly naive. Why does race have to come into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: Why does race have to come into it? “Judicial diversity is key to ensuring the legitimacy and efficacy of our court system,” the report says. “A diverse bench leads to increased public confidence in the courts and richer judicial deliberations.” 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 49 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: What difference does it make what their sexuality is or what their race is ? Are Black people and White people different or something ? Their life experiences are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Their life experiences are. And what are those life experiences , based solely on ethnicity and sexuality and would make them better at applying the law in Court ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: “Judicial diversity is key to ensuring the legitimacy and efficacy of our court system,” the report says. “A diverse bench leads to increased public confidence in the courts and richer judicial deliberations.” But that is just bringing race into it.....black, white, yellow, green....who cares. Surely you must want the best person for the job, no? I guess what I'm trying to say, if you choose the best person for the job, the diversity thing will work itself out naturally. Edited May 17, 2023 by AndyFoxy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: And what are those life experiences , based solely on ethnicity and sexuality and would make them better at applying the law in Court ? They are dealing with a public that is not only straight white men. Applying the law isn't an algorithm. Would you not find it strange if the Supreme Court in your state was all Latina lesbians? Would that inspire your confidence in the justice system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: They are dealing with a public that is not only straight white men. Applying the law isn't an algorithm. Would you not find it strange if the Supreme Court in your state was all Latina lesbians? Would that inspire your confidence in the justice system? It wouldn't , no . I am not bothered about a persons ethnicity and I am not bothered about their sexuality , my only concern would be that they follow the law and their ability to do their job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jingthing said: They are dealing with a public that is not only straight white men. Applying the law isn't an algorithm. Would you not find it strange if the Supreme Court in your state was all Latina lesbians? Would that inspire your confidence in the justice system? As long as they could do the job properly, who cares about their race/sex? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: But that is just bringing race into it.....black, white, yellow, green....who cares. Surely you must want the best person for the job, no? I guess what I'm trying to say, if you choose the best person for the job, the diversity thing will work itself out naturally. The left cares. They need to stir up a lot of animosity for the coming election. What about Clarence Thomas? He's black, yet they hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: The left cares. They need to stir up a lot of animosity for the coming election. What about Clarence Thomas? He's black, yet they hate him. Yes, that's true. I just don't see why race has to come into everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: It wouldn't , no . I am not bothered about a persons ethnicity and I am not bothered about their sexuality , my only concern would be that they follow the law and their ability to do their job Sorry I don't believe you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, AndyFoxy said: Yes, that's true. I just don't see why race has to come into everything. Sure it doesn't matter if you're a straight white man and the court is all straight white men. Nothing fishy about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Sure it doesn't matter if you're a straight white man and the court is all straight white men. Nothing fishy about that. But you are the one bringing up race, gender and sexual orientation. It shouldn't matter, as long as they are the best people for the job. Black, white or another race, male, female, gay, straight. As long as they can do the job, who cares? Well..... obviously you. Surely you want people who can do the best job possible, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Their life experiences are. That’s it in a nutshell! obviously anyone considered for the courts must be qualified for the position obviously life experience is indeed an important quality in a judge.seems to me there’s a lot of ( fishing) on this particular thread lol ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat is a type of crazy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Delete Edited May 17, 2023 by Fat is a type of crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: But you are the one bringing up race, gender and sexual orientation. It shouldn't matter, as long as they are the best people for the job. Black, white or another race, male, female, gay, straight. As long as they can do the job, who cares? Well..... obviously you. Surely you want people who can do the best job possible, no? Bait ignored as you have studiously ignored my points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Bait ignored as you have studiously ignored my points. I think what I want is the best person for the job, and I think you want that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Off-topic, Troll posts, and an unsubstantiated and unsupported claim post have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, AndyFoxy said: But that is just bringing race into it.....black, white, yellow, green....who cares. Surely you must want the best person for the job, no? I guess what I'm trying to say, if you choose the best person for the job, the diversity thing will work itself out naturally. Ok, so in US jury selection the selection process helps to make sure that jurors represent a cross section of the community, without regard to race, gender, national origin, age, or political affiliation. So what does the community of the US consist of? Black, Latino, Asian American, Native American and multiracial people make up 40% of the US population. So when you have 18 states, where all state supreme court justices were White, that is clearly not representative of the community. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 And when "the left" in the USA insist on putting all minorities everywhere, independent of their qualifications, then they shouldn't be surprised when people vote for the right - because they don't have these stupid ideas. Personally, I always thought of myself as center left. But when I see these idiots with those stupid ideas that makes me rethink my affiliation with the left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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