In reality, Thailand is not the LGBTQ+ paradise like it pretends to be

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Well you did say that straight month is every month, so I wondered if gays didn't have the same rights, ie to be gay every month.

Straight people dominate every country in the world, always have, always will. How many times does it take for you to get basic concepts? Or is it as it seems -- WILLFUL IGNORANCE. 

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Lies lies lies. Turn off the magadonian hate media!

It's true.  These are genuine concerns.  I'm not sure if you're ignorant or lying, but you should really try to educate yourself.

[Hummin]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Sure people are bullied for a lot of things. But on the straight - queer spectrum, there is zero doubt which side is the target.

I dissagree, everyone who stands out some way is a target no matter what you feel. Bullying is an problem for everyong who experience it, and not only owned by one group. 

[Jingthing]

Just now, Hummin said:

I dissagree, everyone who stands out some way is a target no matter what you feel. Bullying is an problem for everyong who experience it, and not only owned by one group. 

Boys don't stand out for being gender conforming. This is not that hard to get. But people seem to have a real problem grasping. 

[Hummin]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Straight people dominate every country in the world, always have, always will. How many times does it take for you to get basic concepts? Or is it as it seems -- WILLFUL IGNORANCE. 

Thats the nature of it, unfortunate, but true, and my best guess, it is going to be worse in the future when the power structure in the world  is turned around. 

Edited June 12, 2023 by Hummin

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

It's true.  These are genuine concerns.  I'm not sure if you're ignorant or lying, but you should really try to educate yourself.

It was stuff blown up by right wing "anti-woke" demagogues. 

[Jingthing]

Just now, Hummin said:

Thats the nature of it, unfortunate, but true, and my best guess, it is going to be worse in the future when the power structure is turned around. 

What are you talking about?

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Boys don't stand out for being gender conforming. This is not that hard to get. But people seem to have a real problem grasping. 

Well, I think you are way off and take this personal, instead of seeing the whole picture. If it is okay to bullying fat, black Isaan people, single moms, it is also okay to bully any sex gender to, and if you want to minimize bullying, you have to attack bullying as a concept not as a singularity gay problem

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Well, I think you are way off and take this personal, instead of seeing the whole picture. If it is okay to bullying fat, black Isaan people, single moms, it is also okay to bully any sex gender to, and if you want to minimize bullying, you have to attack bullying as a concept not as a singularity gay problem

Did I suggest bullying was OK against anyone?

Do you not know what THIS topic is about?
GEEZ!

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

What are you talking about?

Im thinking about the slash back on gay rights in the world, Balkan, Russia, Africa, Middle east and China when the power structure is rocked with, and not to forget the right wing movement in the western countries. 

 

Can you see the problem when a movement goes to far? It is a serious question involving human beings, and the nature of human beings being pushed in to something they feel are to much, to often og we are not talking about basic common human rules, respect or rights here. We are talking about a movement entering the public in a way that seems not right and to much. 

 

Many people sitting and feel they can not express they meanings afraid of being cancelled. Thats what happening right now

[proton]

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Straight people dominate every country in the world, always have, always will. How many times does it take for you to get basic concepts? Or is it as it seems -- WILLFUL IGNORANCE. 

Maybe because they are more than 90% of the world? 

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

2 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

I was about to make a similar comment.

I would say your comment is a correctly strong statement against the WOKE hijacking of  lots of subjects!

There's that fake woke that users can't define again. 

There's that lie that "woke" is fake or cannot be defined again... ????

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, proton said:

Maybe because they are more than 90% of the world? 

Definitely. 

So no need for Straight Pride Month or Straight Pride Parades.

When such things happen they are always about HOMOPHOBIA.

Edited June 12, 2023 by Jingthing

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Murray is a far right wing extremist and Fox "News" contributor.

Or just a smart bloke saying sensible things that most sane people agree with...

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im thinking about the slash back on gay rights in the world, Balkan, Russia, Africa, Middle east and China when the power structure is rocked with, and not to forget the right wing movement in the western countries. 

 

Can you see the problem when a movement goes to far? It is a serious question involving human beings, and the nature of human beings being pushed in to something they feel are to much, to often og we are not talking about basic common human rules, respect or rights here. We are talking about a movement entering the public in a way that seems not right and to much. 

 

Many people sitting and feel they can not express they meanings afraid of being cancelled. Thats what happening right now

What you're doing is trying to blame LGBT people themselves for being scapegoated by demagogues. That's wrong. Learn from history. It is the scapegoaters that are in the wrong.

[proton]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Definitely. 

So no need for Straight Pride Month or Straight Pride Parades.

When such things happen they are always about HOMOPHOBIA.

Nobody is fearing gays, some are just bored of the narciscistic victim posturing, parades, flags and propaganda, including other gays

[Jingthing]

Just now, proton said:

Nobody is fearing gays, some are just bored of the narciscistic victim posturing, parades, flags and propaganda, including other gays

The word means fear AND hatred. 

Learn words. It's not that hard.

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

So are hetero cisgender kids bullied for being hetero cisgender?

At least you admit queer kids are bullied here.

Refreshing in the face of so much denial. 

So if one kid is bullied for being poor, another is bullied for being fat, another is bullied for being stupid, that's fine?  But if one is bullied for being gay, suddenly that's an issue?

[proton]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The word means fear AND hatred. 

Learn words. It's not that hard.

You are obsessed with needing to feel people fear and hate, when they don't at all

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

So if one kid is bullied for being poor, another is bullied for being fat, another is bullied for being stupid, that's fine?  But if one is bullied for being gay, suddenly that's an issue?

I never said that.

You know I never said that.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, proton said:

You are obsessed with needing to feel people fear and hate, when they don't at all

I call BS. People are constantly acting like homophobia and transphobia are only about fear and they're not afraid of them. If they assert such ignorance a correction is in order.

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

What you're doing is trying to blame LGBT people themselves for being scapegoated by demagogues. That's wrong. Learn from history. It is the scapegoaters that are in the wrong.

You are not willing to see the extreme side of it, as the me to movement, gender identity where you can claim any gender (7 I think) and the massive indoctornation against children in young age who all at some point is sexually confused, and need time to settle their own personality without massive influence.

 

It is a social experiment we are in the middle of right now. 

 

Is that hard to understand? That people need space as well as we evolve in to a new area? 

[Baht Simpson]

13 minutes ago, proton said:

Nobody is fearing gays, some are just bored of the narciscistic victim posturing, parades, flags and propaganda, including other gays

So what do you propose?

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

You are not willing to see the extreme side of it, as the me to movement, gender identity where you can claim any gender (7 I think) and the massive indoctornation against children in young age who all at some point is sexually confused, and need time to settle their own personality without massive influence.

 

It is a social experiment we are in the middle of right now. 

 

Is that hard to understand? That people need space as well as we evolve in to a new area? 

I don't believe this "massive indoctrination" actually exists to any significant degree. It think it's being whipped up hysterically by the right wing for political gain to have scapegoats as fascist movements always need scapegoats.

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

There's that hostility again.

This nonsense again?  You should learn that ad-homs make your position look weak.

 

And, if I'm hostile, then you're hostile too. ????‍♂️

 

I am being far more matter of fact and far less emotional than you.

[Jingthing]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

This nonsense again?  You should learn that ad-homs make your position look weak.

 

And, if I'm hostile, then you're hostile too. ????‍♂️

 

I am being far more matter of fact and far less emotional than you.

You're accusing me of ad homs?
That's rich coming from you.

[onthedarkside]

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Keep it civil or move on. Further bickering posts will be removed

[WHansen]

I personally don't care what anybody does or what they want to be.

What is very annoying is the constant anger shown by this group and the woke response worldwide to a minority with a confrontational loud voice.

 

I will call a person that looks like a man a man, and a woman a woman, if it upsets a fragile trans or a confused different pronoun seeking individual.....so be it.

[jak2002003]

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Exactly. I am a fairly liberal person (in the classic sense of the word, not the politcially hijacked sense) but I feel no need to celebrate it.

 

I have no issue with LBGT or whatever. Each to their own. But I have no desire to celebrate people being gay any more than celebrating they are straight, Catholic, short, thin, black, blonde, freckled or whatever.

 

Perhaps if they stopped drawing attention to their differences they would just fit in more easily and be more readily accepted. Of course, it appears that being treated as normal is the last thing many of these people want. They want to be the centre of attention, special, to be celebrated, admired. Hence the parades where they dance around half naked flaunting their sexuality, often in front of children.

This is hilarious. 

 

You are telling gay people to keep a low profile so straights won't bother them? 

 

There is no reason to say they can't have a party or festival..but everyone else can. That to me is discrimination. 

 

Religions have festivals, people have wedding parties, the place people work has work parties, a society or club has parties and celebrations......so why can't the gay community have a party and celebration? 

 

 

[jak2002003]

2 minutes ago, WHansen said:

I personally don't care what anybody does or what they want to be.

What is very annoying is the constant anger shown by this group and the woke response worldwide to a minority with a confrontational loud voice.

 

I will call a person that looks like a man a man, and a woman a woman, if it upsets a fragile trans or a confused different pronoun seeking individual.....so be it.

So you basically a selfish and rude person with no regards to other peoples feelings?