Trump is a criminal, Biden is too old and DeSantis is a fascist

[heybruce]

36 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Nice mainstream sources.

 

Now for the left, we have: ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, LA Times, NY Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, CNN, MSNBC, HuffPost, Media Matters....

Thanks for the laugh.

[LosLobo]

14 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Thanks for the laugh.

I have found using ChatGPT for questions about most subjects strangely accurate.

 

You get some interesting results on the subject of the political bias of certain US News services.

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

You get some interesting results on the subject of the political bias of certain US News services.

What that they are all biased toward one or other party/politician apart from "possibly" the WSJ and AP!

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

What that they are all biased toward one or other party/politician apart from "possibly" the WSJ and AP!

AP? That's hilarious!

 

Only the editorial page in the WSJ could be called right of center, everything else is left. 

[Yellowtail]

So what has DeSantis done that makes him a fascist? Did he collude with Facebook & Twitter or what? 

[Jingthing]

45 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So what has DeSantis done that makes him a fascist? Did he collude with Facebook & Twitter or what? 

Checking 14 characteristics of fascism against DeSantis’ actions afer his recent visit to Utah. (sltrib.com)

 

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis came to Utah last month and delivered the keynote address at the Utah Republican Party organizing convention in Orem. He was greeted as a hero by some 2,500 delegates in attendance. At the same time, he was jeered by some 100 students outside, many of whom accused him of being a fascist.

 

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Checking 14 characteristics of fascism against DeSantis’ actions afer his recent visit to Utah. (sltrib.com)

 

 

Can you name one thing? 

[ozimoron]

47 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Can you name one thing? 

War on education, particularly American racial history is one. Abortion rights is another.

 

Leave education up to the educators. Irrelevant anyway, DeSantis is way too fascist for the masses and won't get the vote.

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/ron-desantis/

Edited June 20, 2023 by ozimoron

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

War on education, particularly American racial history is one. Abortion rights is another.

 

Leave education up to the educators. Irrelevant anyway, DeSantis is way too fascist for the masses and won't get the vote.

Having an opinion on abortions doesn't make a person a "fascist"

   People who oppose abortions are not fascists????

What is the racial history that DeSantis wasn't to censor ?

(Even having a educational policy doesn't make a person to be a fascist .)

   You got nothing 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Having an opinion on abortions doesn't make a person a "fascist"

   People who oppose abortions are not fascists????

What is the racial history that DeSantis wasn't to censor ?

(Even having a educational policy doesn't make a person to be a fascist .)

   You got nothing 

He doesn't just have an opinion, he's forcing laws to deny women their rights - fascism right there.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Having an opinion on abortions doesn't make a person a "fascist"

   People who oppose abortions are not fascists????

What is the racial history that DeSantis wasn't to censor ?

(Even having a educational policy doesn't make a person to be a fascist .)

   You got nothing 

He doesn't even know what fascism is, how funny is that? 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

He doesn't just have an opinion, he's forcing laws to deny women their rights - fascism right there.

You need to do a bit of reading. 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

He doesn't even know what fascism is, how funny is that? 

Get an education

 

Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

He doesn't just have an opinion, he's forcing laws to deny women their rights - fascism right there.

Stopping the killing of foetuses that will one day become an adult human  , isn't a "fascist" .

   "Fascism" isn't the opposition to abortions .

Woman shouldn't have the right to end another persons life .

Whatever you think about abortion , having either opinion doesn't make you a fascist

 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Stopping the killing of foetuses that will one day become an adult human  , isn't a "fascist" .

   "Fascism" isn't the opposition to abortions .

Woman shouldn't have the right to end another persons life .

Whatever you think about abortion , having either opinion doesn't make you a fascist

 

Read the definition above, You might not like it but controlling womens rights is fascism - by definition.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Get an education

 

Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen.

Here is a a fuller definition :

 

"a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

 

   https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Read the definition above, You might not like it but controlling womens rights is fascism - by definition.

It isn't . Abortions aren't even mentioned 

[Yellowtail]

Remember the left calling Bush a fascist? The left always calls anyone that opposes them a fascist. 

 

Wanting kindergarteners to not be not shown diagrams of men blowing each other is fascism.

 

Not wanting 15-year-old girls to have their breasts cut off and a chunk of their arm cut out to make a phony penis is fascism. 

 

Not wanting women to have abortions is fascism. 

 

Wanting opposing views heard in schools and universities is fascism. 

 

Meritocracy is fascism. 

 

 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Remember the left calling Bush a fascist? The left always calls anyone that opposes them a fascist. 

 

Wanting kindergarteners to not be not shown diagrams of men blowing each other is fascism.

 

Not wanting 15-year-old girls to have their breasts cut off and a chunk of their arm cut out to make a phony penis is fascism. 

 

Not wanting women to have abortions is fascism. 

 

Wanting opposing views heard in schools and universities is fascism. 

 

Meritocracy is fascism. 

 

 

"Wanting opposing views heard in schools and universities is fascism". 

 

Please stop insulting our intelligence.

[ozimoron]

30 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Here is a a fuller definition :

 

"a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

 

   https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

 

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy

 

wiki

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy

 

wiki

And a quote from George Orwell from your link 

 

 

"'Fascism' has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies something not desirable."

[Yellowtail]

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

"Wanting opposing views heard in schools and universities is fascism". 

It that's the only thing you take exception to, you agree that:

 

Wanting kindergarteners to not be not shown diagrams of men blowing each other is fascism.

 

Not wanting 15-year-old girls to have their breasts cut off and a chunk of their arm cut out to make a phony penis is fascism. 

 

Not wanting women to have abortions is fascism. 

 

Meritocracy is fascism. 

 

Correct?

 

In any event, why is it when non-leftists are invited to speak on campuses they are often shouted down? It the left trying to limit speech, not the right. Can't have kids hearing anything contrary to the party line, right? 

 

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Please stop insulting our intelligence.

Okay

[LosLobo]

Trump may be a proven criminal earlier than we thought........

 

'U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has set an initial trial date of Aug. 14 in Florida on former President Donald Trump's federal charges of willful retention of classified government records and obstruction of justice, according to a court order on Tuesday'.

 

U.S. judge sets Aug. 14 trial date for Trump in Florida documents case | Reuters

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Trump may be a proven criminal earlier than we thought........

 

'U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has set an initial trial date of Aug. 14 in Florida on former President Donald Trump's federal charges of willful retention of classified government records and obstruction of justice, according to a court order on Tuesday'.

 

U.S. judge sets Aug. 14 trial date for Trump in Florida documents case | Reuters

Excellent. Now waiting for Trump's attempts to delay 

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Trump may be a proven criminal earlier than we thought........

 

'U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has set an initial trial date of Aug. 14 in Florida on former President Donald Trump's federal charges of willful retention of classified government records and obstruction of justice, according to a court order on Tuesday'.

 

U.S. judge sets Aug. 14 trial date for Trump in Florida documents case | Reuters

Coincidently enough, we were just discussing what Fascism is and one of the definitions of Fascism is forcible silencing your political opponents 

[ozimoron]

13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It that's the only thing you take exception to, you agree that:

 

Wanting kindergarteners to not be not shown diagrams of men blowing each other is fascism.

 

Not wanting 15-year-old girls to have their breasts cut off and a chunk of their arm cut out to make a phony penis is fascism. 

 

Not wanting women to have abortions is fascism. 

 

Meritocracy is fascism. 

 

Correct?

 

In any event, why is it when non-leftists are invited to speak on campuses they are often shouted down? It the left trying to limit speech, not the right. Can't have kids hearing anything contrary to the party line, right? 

 

Okay

Nobody wants kindergartners to be shown that and nor has any kindergartner ever bee  shown that. As for gender reassignment surgery, it's totally up to doctors, parents and the child. No fascists should have any say. Abortions are likewise totally between women and doctors. Not fascists and religious whack jobs.

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Coincidently enough, we were just discussing what Fascism is and one of the definitions of Fascism is forcible silencing your political opponents 

Good there's an independent prosecutor then.

[Mac Mickmanus]

9 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Nobody wants kindergartners to be shown that and nor has any kindergartner ever bee  shown that. As for gender reassignment surgery, it's totally up to doctors, parents and the child. No fascists should have any say. Abortions are likewise totally between women and doctors. Not fascists and religious whack jobs.

I think that the baby should have a say in the process

They should wait until the Child reaches 18 years old and then the Mother, Doctor and Child all discuss  whether the now adult should be put to death or not 

[Neeranam]

21 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Trump may be a proven criminal earlier than we thought..

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

11 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Rubbish, Since you won;t read links, back on ignore. Pointless if you refuse to debate in good faith.

Rather convenient to put those who question you on ignore. 

[metisdead]

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