Question to NON-OA

[Chris KL]

Hi,  to apply for a NON-Oa its stated :

 

 

• Copies of the pension certificate with a monthly net amount of at least 1,700 EUR (65,000 THB).
• If this amount is not met, further proof of assets must be submitted: Bank statement with at least 20,000 EUR (800,000 THB) balance per month end of the last 3 months.

 

Does that mean you need your pension cert or just show 800.000 baht even you not a pensioner ?

 

Or show Pension Cert is mandatory and the 800000? 

 

thanks

 

bye Chris

 

 

[MPoll]

Way back in 2017 I submitted documents that showed I met both criteria. I don’t know which they used or both but I got my visa with no questions asked. 

[bigt3116]

It is either or, so either monthly income of 65,000 or a lump sum of 800,000

[Pattaya57]

You can get O-A using monthly income method (1700 Euro/month) or balance in Bank (20,000 Euro balance for last 3 months)

 

So no you don't have to show pension certificate, just show bank statement

[Chris KL]

23 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

You can get O-A using monthly income method (1700 Euro/month) or balance in Bank (20,000 Euro balance for last 3 months)

 

So no you don't have to show pension certificate, just show bank statement

thanks for your info

[brianthainess]

On 7/2/2023 at 4:21 AM, Chris KL said:

Does that mean you need your pension cert or just show 800.000 baht even you not a pensioner ?

If you have had 800k in a thai bank for 2months no need for pension cert.

I presume you are applying in Thailand.

Edited July 3, 2023 by brianthainess

[rwill]

If you don't want to have to deal with the insurance requirement for an O-A it's better to go for a regular O visa.

[BritTim]

29 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

If you have had 800k in a thai bank for 2months no need for pension cert.

I presume you are applying in Thailand.

He states that he is applying for a Non-OA visa. That is only possible in home country. Also, note that, if instead applying for a Non O visa at Immigration in Thailand, the requirements might be a little different than when applying for a one-year extension of stay on the basis of retirement. Whenever applying for a visa at Immigration, it is prudent to check your local office for any possible local requirements.

[Red Phoenix]

48 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

If you have had 800k in a thai bank for 2months no need for pension cert.

I presume you are applying in Thailand.

You can only apply for a Non Imm O-A Visa at the Thai Embassy/Consulate in your home-country or country of residence. 

For the application you need to show either:

1 - Official pension-statement showing that you receive the equivalent of +65.000,- THB per month

OR

2 - Evidence of having the equivalent of +800.000,- THB for a period of at least 3 months on a bank-account (the account will normally be in your home-country, but also foreign or Thai bank-accounts are accepted).

[Red Phoenix]

32 minutes ago, rwill said:

If you don't want to have to deal with the insurance requirement for an O-A it's better to go for a regular O visa.

Yes, if you do not have already a Non Imm O-A compliant health-inurance policy and do not have a need for such - often expensive - policy, applying for a 90-day Non Imm O Visa would in most cases be the better choice.  Applying for such 90-day Non Imm O Visa (retirement) can be done:

1 - By e-Visa at the Thai Embassy/Consulate of your home-country;

2 - At a Thai Embassy/Consulate of a neighboring country of Thailand;

3 - At the local Imm Office of the Thai province where you plan to reside long-term, but this can only be done when having entered Thailand VisaExempt (without a Visa) or on a Tourist Visa.

[brianthainess]

13 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

You can only apply for a Non Imm O-A Visa at the Thai Embassy/Consulate in your home-country or country of residence. 

For the application you need to show either:

1 - Official pension-statement showing that you receive the equivalent of +65.000,- THB per month

OR

2 - Evidence of having the equivalent of +800.000,- THB for a period of at least 3 months on a bank-account (the account will normally be in your home-country, but also foreign or Thai bank-accounts are accepted).

Oh OK years ago I got one in OZ showing my OZ bank account stamped and signed from the bank.

[bigt3116]

12 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

or country of residence.

Just to clarify, not just your "country of residence", but a country other than your "home" country, where you hold legal resident status. (Think PR in Thailand).

[BritTim]

4 hours ago, bigt3116 said:

Just to clarify, not just your "country of residence", but a country other than your "home" country, where you hold legal resident status. (Think PR in Thailand).

Yes and, while it will not be an issue for most here, it can become tricky to decide on a country by country basis whether you qualify. The basic guideline is "long term right of abode". However, in some countries, although you are allowed to stay indefinitely without a visa, you may still not qualify. If not a national of the country where you currently live, you need to verify with the embassy whether you qualify. Sometimes, it can be at the discretion of the embassy and Ministry of Foreign Affairs.