‘Decency and dignity’: Multiple carefully crafted Biden narratives fall apart as 2024 race heats up

[Hanaguma]

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

You must be really desperate for evidence to cite this brief stumble. A stumble he acknowledged and made a joke about. Immediate awareness of an error is evidence of dementia? You've got nothing.

Only the latest, my friend, only the latest. How many "brief stumbles" and "gaffes" does it take to add up to a problem? 

[pomchop]

On 7/11/2023 at 8:37 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

Ping me when Joe Biden starts scapegoating minorities and mocking the afflicted.

 

 

Also be sure and let us all know when trumpers finally admit that they lost the 2020 election...that would be a first step to demonstrate they are not totally delusional.

 

Edited July 14, 2023 by pomchop

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Only the latest, my friend, only the latest. How many "brief stumbles" and "gaffes" does it take to add up to a problem? 

On past performance of others, over 30,000 seems not to be the enough, even when they are blatant and deliberate.

 

[Skipalongcassidy]

On 7/12/2023 at 1:14 PM, brucegoniners said:

  We all know Faux News isn't news at all.

Pray tell where you get your "honest to goodness" real news...

[placeholder]

6 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Only the latest, my friend, only the latest. How many "brief stumbles" and "gaffes" does it take to add up to a problem? 

The latest what? It was nothing. Make that less than nothing. Someone makes an error and catches themselves immediately is proof of situational awareness.

Edited July 15, 2023 by placeholder

[earlinclaifornia]

10 hours ago, nauseus said:

If he ever actually had a comprehensive set of skills, I think that, over the years, most of the kit got lost, sold or stolen. Now it looks like a few damaged spanners are all that's left.

Yeah Whatever. He is the most powerful person in the world and truthfully you can dislike him as much as you want and nobody really cares.

[heybruce]

54 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Pray tell where you get your "honest to goodness" real news...

By reading, not by watching television.  How about you?

[bendejo]

On 7/12/2023 at 1:52 AM, placeholder said:

So you're claiming you know for a fact that Biden won't be able to complete his term and there's a plan to replace him with someone else? Do you have a crystal ball and some sort of spy surveillance device that allows you to listen in on the machinations of certain unnamed parties who are in control of Joe Biden? Or are you just reading the minds of these sinister characters?

Or does he just repeat what his television friends say?

 

 

[bendejo]

On 7/12/2023 at 2:46 AM, earlinclaifornia said:

We could if the two both dropped out.

There is the possibility DT may scratch, for whatever reason, before the GOP convention, and they have an open convention, meaning they go into it with no idea of what will come out.  And this is why all these hopefuls are coming up.  Just my idea.

 

Another heinous something to consider is Mike Flynn, he's been traveling the country with this (ahem) grass-roots guns, god & gov't campaign, with "digital warriors" (he trademarked the term),  The person in Congress who speaks loudest on this initiative is Boebert.  I think Flynn will turn up his monkey business when it's time for the general election.

 

[Hanaguma]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

On past performance of others, over 30,000 seems not to be the enough, even when they are blatant and deliberate.

 

Joe had a long and storied career of lying as a Senator and in his previous Presidential runs. Lately he is turning more to brain freezes and the like. I dont think he is capable of the sort of mistruths that he uttered in the past.  He is just getting......slow.  And unsteady, both physically and mentally.

[earlinclaifornia]

21 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Joe had a long and storied career of lying as a Senator and in his previous Presidential runs. Lately he is turning more to brain freezes and the like. I dont think he is capable of the sort of mistruths that he uttered in the past.  He is just getting......slow.  And unsteady, both physically and mentally.

Then there is this.

 

Biden campaign, DNC announce they raised $72 million in Q2 (yahoo.com)

 

[placeholder]

57 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Or does he just repeat what his television friends say?

 

 

Clearly he does not. Which you would know if you actually watched an interview.

[Tug]

23 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Joe had a long and storied career of lying as a Senator and in his previous Presidential runs. Lately he is turning more to brain freezes and the like. I dont think he is capable of the sort of mistruths that he uttered in the past.  He is just getting......slow.  And unsteady, both physically and mentally.

Yet some how inflation is way down Russia humiliated their military exposed as corrupt and their weapons sub par nato just added 1 top tier allies another on the way,meaning full legislation done low unemployment country on the mend hummm?hummm!yup not to shabby!he’s one magnificent old dude with a superb team backing US up

[Pink Mist]

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[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Joe had a long and storied career of lying as a Senator and in his previous Presidential runs. Lately he is turning more to brain freezes and the like. I dont think he is capable of the sort of mistruths that he uttered in the past.  He is just getting......slow.  And unsteady, both physically and mentally.

And yet he is delivering for America and restoring trust and respect for America on the world stage.

Edited to add ‘trust’ to the list of Biden achievements, because trusting of America within the international community is a vital part of US diplomacy and security, and something that was gutted out in the immediate years before Biden’s Presidency.

 

Yep, Biden is old, and the experience of his life in public service shines through.

 

 

Edited July 15, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[bendejo]

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

Clearly he does not. Which you would know if you actually watched an interview.

I was commenting on the guy you were confronting with your reply, not POTUS.

 

[Hanaguma]

28 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet he is delivering for America and restoring trust and respect for America on the world stage.

Edited to add ‘trust’ to the list of Biden achievements, because trusting of America within the international community is a vital part of US diplomacy and security, and something that was gutted out in the immediate years before Biden’s Presidency.

 

Yep, Biden is old, and the experience of his life in public service shines through.

 

 

Joe was never decent. He was a mediocre Senator and invisible as vice president. He has a notable list of nasty behavior going back decades.

1. He lied about the man who was in the tragic accident that killed his first wife and daughter, calling him a drunk

2. He lied about his academic pedigree when he first ran for president.

3. He lies about his son's death.

4. He lied about his upbringing.

5. He is a plagiarist, which ultimately derailed his first presidential campaign.

6. He lies about his grand-daughter Navy.

7. He lied about his son's business activities and what he knew of them.

8. He, like Trump, dodged the draft and avoided service in VietNam.

9. He is infamous for his inappropriate touching around women and girls. 

 

Tell me again about his decency and dignity.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Joe was never decent. He was a mediocre Senator and invisible as vice president. He has a notable list of nasty behavior going back decades.

1. He lied about the man who was in the tragic accident that killed his first wife and daughter, calling him a drunk

2. He lied about his academic pedigree when he first ran for president.

3. He lies about his son's death.

4. He lied about his upbringing.

5. He is a plagiarist, which ultimately derailed his first presidential campaign.

6. He lies about his grand-daughter Navy.

7. He lied about his son's business activities and what he knew of them.

8. He, like Trump, dodged the draft and avoided service in VietNam.

9. He is infamous for his inappropriate touching around women and girls. 

 

Tell me again about his decency and dignity.

A list of 9, that may or may not be true.

 

Is that it?

 

Despite your best efforts you failed to address my post you have ‘responded to’.

 

But then perhaps that was your point.

[Chomper Higgot]

What the rightwing fail to recognize is there is no cult of Biden.

 

The defense of Biden is Biden’s achievements as POTUS.

 

The faux rightwing outrage and blatant ‘accusation confessions’ are not going corral liberals into a ‘Biden only’ mindset.

 

Liberals will vote for whoever the Democrat candidate is.

I suggest my rightwing friends stop ranting at the guy who beat their boy and focus on finding a new candidate of their own.

 

[Hanaguma]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A list of 9, that may or may not be true.

 

Is that it?

 

Despite your best efforts you failed to address my post you have ‘responded to’.

 

But then perhaps that was your point.

No, my point was to stick to the topic of the discussion, which is about Biden's carefully crafted and completely untrue image of himself as kindly uncle Joe. 

Your post is full of weasel words and sentiments. Constant comparisons, as usual, to Trumplestiltskin. 

Care to tell me about Joe Biden's "decency and dignity"?

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Hanaguma said:

No, my point was to stick to the topic of the discussion, which is about Biden's carefully crafted and completely untrue image of himself as kindly uncle Joe. 

Your post is full of weasel words and sentiments. Constant comparisons, as usual, to Trumplestiltskin. 

Care to tell me about Joe Biden's "decency and dignity"?

And yet Biden is delivering for America.

 

I think that’s pretty decent of him.

[Skipalongcassidy]

18 hours ago, heybruce said:

By reading, not by watching television.  How about you?

The question was not "how do you get your news?"  My question was "what is your go to news source?"  Many sources have multiple devices to deliver their message... 

[Tug]

13 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Joe was never decent. He was a mediocre Senator and invisible as vice president. He has a notable list of nasty behavior going back decades.

1. He lied about the man who was in the tragic accident that killed his first wife and daughter, calling him a drunk

2. He lied about his academic pedigree when he first ran for president.

3. He lies about his son's death.

4. He lied about his upbringing.

5. He is a plagiarist, which ultimately derailed his first presidential campaign.

6. He lies about his grand-daughter Navy.

7. He lied about his son's business activities and what he knew of them.

8. He, like Trump, dodged the draft and avoided service in VietNam.

9. He is infamous for his inappropriate touching around women and girls. 

 

Tell me again about his decency and dignity.

Just gotta love the abject utter desperation on the part of the gop desperately trying to slander never anything about policy’s that will help America move forward I think what must be the worst for them is the obvious success we have had under the Biden administration nobody’s perfect but some are far and away better than others don’t worry we have an excellent team running the country under a chief executive who has experience and the wisdom to get out of the way of the experts in their fields when necessary 

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

The question was not "how do you get your news?"  My question was "what is your go to news source?"  Many sources have multiple devices to deliver their message... 

And my answer was "reading".  If that isn't clear enough, it means print media.  I don't get news by watching television, listening to radio or viewing YouTube. 

 

How do you get your news?  Since you asked the question about news sources, you should initiate the discussion by describing yours.  Who are these trustworthy "sources" with multiple devices?

[ozimoron]

Just now, heybruce said:

And my answer was "reading".  If that isn't clear enough, it means print media.  I don't get news by watching television, listening to radio or viewing YouTube. 

 

How do you get your news?  Since you asked the question about news sources, you should initiate the discussion by describing yours.  Who are these trustworthy "sources" with multiple devices?

Same, I haven't even turned my TV on for a couple of weeks. I read news articles. Less mind pollution.

[onthedarkside]

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[Hanaguma]

8 hours ago, Tug said:

Just gotta love the abject utter desperation on the part of the gop desperately trying to slander never anything about policy’s that will help America move forward I think what must be the worst for them is the obvious success we have had under the Biden administration nobody’s perfect but some are far and away better than others don’t worry we have an excellent team running the country under a chief executive who has experience and the wisdom to get out of the way of the experts in their fields when necessary 

Perhaps because the topic of this discussion is not policy? Plenty of places to talk about that I am sure. No, the topc is Joe Biden and his attempt to portray himself as decent, dignified, honest, and the like.  All of which have never been true- please see the list I wrote and tell me if anything was inaccurate. ALL were indicators that he is not of high and moral character whatsoever. 

 

Would not be a problem if, IF, Biden didn't spend so much time trying to burnish his personal brand. But he does, so he gets called on it. 

[ozimoron]

12 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Perhaps because the topic of this discussion is not policy? Plenty of places to talk about that I am sure. No, the topc is Joe Biden and his attempt to portray himself as decent, dignified, honest, and the like.  All of which have never been true- please see the list I wrote and tell me if anything was inaccurate. ALL were indicators that he is not of high and moral character whatsoever. 

 

Would not be a problem if, IF, Biden didn't spend so much time trying to burnish his personal brand. But he does, so he gets called on it. 

That's 9 lies, got 29,991 more?

[Hanaguma]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

That's 9 lies, got 29,991 more?

Really, that's the best you've got?    "B-b-but Trump...."?

 

Trump never campaigned as a solid, family man type. And thank God for that. Nor on his decency. Ditto. He was what he was- all his flaws and moral failings were clear to anyone with eyes to see.  People knew what they were getting when they voted for him in terms of decency and dignity (the topic of this discussion).

 

Now how about Biden? Were his character flaws and immorality clear to the public? Or  did he try to hide them under his BS image as 'lunchbucket Joe from Scranton'?  The hypocrisy is the problem.  

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Really, that's the best you've got?    "B-b-but Trump...."?

 

Trump never campaigned as a solid, family man type. And thank God for that. Nor on his decency. Ditto. He was what he was- all his flaws and moral failings were clear to anyone with eyes to see.  People knew what they were getting when they voted for him in terms of decency and dignity (the topic of this discussion).

 

Now how about Biden? Were his character flaws and immorality clear to the public? Or  did he try to hide them under his BS image as 'lunchbucket Joe from Scranton'?  The hypocrisy is the problem.  

If you've got anything to impugn Biden's character, out with it. THe reason people are trying to impugn his decency is to deflect from the absolute moral wastelend opposing him.