Trump sees democracy as ‘enemy territory’ says journalist who helped bring down Nixon

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Bob Woodward has spent much of the last decade reporting on the former president

 

Longtime Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward said he believes former President Donald Trump “looks at democracy as enemy territory” during an interview on MSNBC.

“The problem with Trump is, I think he looks at democracy as enemy territory, to be quite frank,” Mr Woodward told the network’s Ari Melber on Tuesday.

Mr Woodward knows a thing or two about scandal-plagued presidents. He and Carl Bernstein’s reporting on Watergate at the Washington Post helped end Richard Nixon’s presidency more than five decades ago.

 

More recently, Mr Woodward has reported extensively on Mr Trump. In 2018, Mr Woodward published a book called Fear: Trump in the White House on Mr Trump’s presidency and has since published several more books about the former president.

The latest of those books — The Trump Tapes: Bob Woodward’s Twenty Interviews with President Donald Trump — featured transcripts of Mr Woodward’s 20 interviews with Mr Trump. The former president sued over the release of the tapes of the interviews, even though Mr Woodward’s publisher Simon & Schuster has maintained that the tapes were all on the record.

Now, with Mr Trump establishing himself as the frontrunner for the Republican nomination for president for a third consecutive election, a number of Americans are fearful about what his potential return to the White House might mean for American democracy,

 

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[Tug]

I watched his interview on msn trumps obviously a psychopath he has absolutely no empathy for others no does he have the talent and intelligence to lead he knew for months how serious the virus was and dident take the correct steps to protect the country a huge failure that cost 10s of thousands  of American lives plus his mental illness wouldn’t let him get out of the way to let the experts handle it it’s was a horrific administration 

[PJPom]

As an outsider looking in I think the next Presidential election will be VERY interesting.

Such a pity the losers, be they Democrat or Republicans , won’t accept that in a democracy the majority rule.

[stevenl]

28 minutes ago, PJPom said:

As an outsider looking in I think the next Presidential election will be VERY interesting.

Such a pity the losers, be they Democrat or Republicans , won’t accept that in a democracy the majority rule.

Why do people claiming to be an outsider looking in always come with nonsense statements.  Democrats have always accepted the outcome of an election.

[EVENKEEL]

Fear is a good seller. 

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Fear is a good seller. 

Fox have always known that, hence the business model of fear and outrage.

[EVENKEEL]

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Fox have always known that, hence the business model of fear and outrage.

It's the name of this has been writer's book Fear. Nothing to do with Fox. 

[bendejo]

Steve Bannon has been saying for years that elections no longer matter.  Consider who he is in the MAGA world, and consider what exactly he means.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/the-strange-origins-of-steve-bannons-nationalist-fantasia

 

 

[riclag]

7 hours ago, PJPom said:

As an outsider looking in I think the next Presidential election will be VERY interesting.

Such a pity the losers, be they Democrat or Republicans , won’t accept that in a democracy the majority rule.

You dont seem to understand ,Its a republic . 

Edited July 16, 2023 by riclag

[Skipalongcassidy]

6 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Fox have always known that, hence the business model of fear and outrage.

What news source has the facts and truth... I am searching and cannot seem to find the answer... please help.

[scottiejohn]

2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

What news source has the facts and truth... I am searching and cannot seem to find the answer... please help.

When you find that utopia please let us know where it is and how you established that it is truly giving you the facts and the truth!

[gargamon]

3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

What news source has the facts and truth... I am searching and cannot seem to find the answer... please help.

How about a list of news sources that don't have facts and truth? I could easily start that one. Once this list is populated, any source not on the list could meet your criteria. 

 

[scottiejohn]

39 minutes ago, gargamon said:

How about a list of news sources that don't have facts and truth? I could easily start that one. Once this list is populated, any source not on the list could meet your criteria. 

 

Are you sure the AN website is big enough to host a list that large?

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

How about a list of news sources that don't have facts and truth? I could easily start that one. Once this list is populated, any source not on the list could meet your criteria.

Maybe this can help you start.

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

 

I'm not recommending it, as I disagree with some of the assignations.  E.g. I see CNN as centrist.

 

 

[gargamon]

13 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Maybe this can help you start.

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

 

I'm not recommending it, as I disagree with some of the assignations.  E.g. I see CNN as centrist.

 

 

Bias is different than accuracy. You can lean one way and report mostly truth, or you can lean another way and report mainly fallacies. Differentiating between truth and fallacies is the point here. 

[bendejo]

10 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Bias is different than accuracy. You can lean one way and report mostly truth, or you can lean another way and report mainly fallacies. Differentiating between truth and fallacies is the point here. 

Leaving out aspects you prefer not to convey can scream "bias" loud and clear, IMO.

 

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Leaving out aspects you prefer not to convey can scream "bias" loud and clear, IMO.

 

Bias is not an issue for me, I can see through that, the issue is lies.

[placeholder]

9 hours ago, riclag said:

You dont seem to understand ,Its a republic . 

What you don't seem to understand is that it's a democratic republic. Which means that it's a democracy but there are certain rights and practices protected by the Constitution. And the USA gotten a lot more democratic throughout its history thanks to the 14th, 15th, 17th, and 19th amendments to the Constitution.

Edited July 17, 2023 by placeholder

[ozimoron]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

What you don't seem to understand is that it's a democratic republic. Which means that it's a democracy but there are certain rights and practices protected by the Constitution. And the USA gotten a lot more democratic throughout its history thanks to the 14th, 15th, 17th, and 19th amendments to the Constitution.

They're just trying to downplay the importance  of winning the popular vote. Hello fascism.

[placeholder]

It isn't just Trump who has no use for democracy. A growing segment of the right wing is of the same opinion. You can read about a vile a$$h0l3 who has drawn respect from the Claremont Institute, a prominent right wing think tank:

 

How Bronze Age Pervert Built an Online Following and Injected Anti-Democracy, Pro-Men Ideas into the GOP

Of all such figures on the scene today, including clearly BAP-influenced anonymous accounts with names like Delicious Tacos, Raw Egg Nationalist and Zero HP Lovecraft, BAP stands out as one of the most influential — and the one associated with the most clearly articulated and far-reaching political and cultural vision. Further, that vision is an extreme one, built around a rejection of equality, democracy and other promises of modern liberalism — and it’s being taken seriously by prominent conservatives and Republicans.

BAP counts Michael Anton, former White House national security spokesperson, Darren Beattie, a former Trump White House aide who was fired for speaking at a white nationalist conference, and a number of young former Trump staffers among his readers. 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/07/16/bronze-age-pervert-masculinity-00105427

 

 

 

 

[bendejo]

DT has a sense of awe regarding Woodward, it came out back when he was interviewed by him.  He seems to have a fetish for influential men. 

How come all these anti-LGBT people don't go after T____ for exchanging "love letters" (his own words) with the guy who runs North Korea?

Did the White House doctor do a rape kit on the then-president when he returned from his Helsinki meeting with Putin?

He also has this deference to Turkey's Erdogan, what's up with that?

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

How come all these anti-LGBT people don't go after T____ for exchanging "love letters" (his own words) with the guy who runs North Korea?

Did the White House doctor do a rape kit on the then-president when he returned from his Helsinki meeting with Putin?

He also has this deference to Turkey's Erdogan, what's up with that?

 

 

Possibly because Trump's unprecedented, previously unthinkable and utterly heroic achievement in fostering a peaceful and respectful relationship with NK was impressive for everyone(even though the left were at the time in raptures over their false narrative that Trump was about to be thrown in jail over some hoax or other they had made up)? Delivering peace in NK, Ukraine etc was an incredible achievement, and was only possible because Trump was not compromised by having a history of corrupt activities and inexplicable payments from said countries.

 

What on earth are you talking about in regard to SA kits? It is still shocking the way the left swallowed all the fake news narratives which no doubt lead to such comments being made. 

[placeholder]

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Possibly because Trump's unprecedented, previously unthinkable and utterly heroic achievement in fostering a peaceful and respectful relationship with NK was impressive for everyone(even though the left were at the time in raptures over their false narrative that Trump was about to be thrown in jail over some hoax or other they had made up)? Delivering peace in NK, Ukraine etc was an incredible achievement, and was only possible because Trump was not compromised by having a history of corrupt activities and inexplicable payments from said countries.

 

What on earth are you talking about in regard to SA kits? It is still shocking the way the left swallowed all the fake news narratives which no doubt lead to such comments being made. 

What alternative universe do you come from?

 

Trump’s North Korea Peace Drive Is Over

Metaphor is officially dead, another casualty of 2020. North Korea’s Kim Jong-un wants to signal to his counterparts in Seoul and Washington that he will blow up what’s left of their relationships unless his regime receives more concessions, so … he has literally blown up the liaison office, built and paid for by South Korea, that sat in the demilitarized zone between the two Koreas.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/north-korea-blows-up-liaison-office-trumps-hope-for-a-deal.html

 

Growing NKorean nuclear threat awaits US election winner

“Where’s the war?” That’s how President Donald Trump defends his North Korea policy at campaign rallies even though he’s joined the list of U.S. presidents unable to stop the ever-growing nuclear threat from Kim Jong Un. That threat will transcend the November election, no matter who wins.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-north-korea-elections-national-security-5272f98730704dd863d62f489760bdcb

Edited July 18, 2023 by placeholder

[candide]

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Possibly because Trump's unprecedented, previously unthinkable and utterly heroic achievement in fostering a peaceful and respectful relationship with NK was impressive for everyone(even though the left were at the time in raptures over their false narrative that Trump was about to be thrown in jail over some hoax or other they had made up)? Delivering peace in NK, Ukraine etc was an incredible achievement, and was only possible because Trump was not compromised by having a history of corrupt activities and inexplicable payments from said countries.

 

What on earth are you talking about in regard to SA kits? It is still shocking the way the left swallowed all the fake news narratives which no doubt lead to such comments being made. 

Lol! Trump got played by Kim.

 

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-kim-jong-un-played-donald-trump

 

Make no mistake, the collapse of this week’s U.S.-North Korea summit in Hanoi is a win for Kim Jong Un. Trump and his officials are already spinning this as a draw, stating that North Korea has promised to continue its testing moratorium, claiming unspecified progress was made inside the talks and promising the negotiations will continue.

But by securing an extension of the process while giving up nothing on denuclearization, Kim can continue improving his country’s nuclear and missile capabilities, benefit from an ever-eroding sanctions regime and enjoy his elevated status as a newly respected member of the international community.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trump-got-played-by-kim-jong-un--again/2019/02/28/784a3228-3b8f-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html

 

Edited July 18, 2023 by candide