KhunLA Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, JonnyF said: OK. So we can conclude they are in fact still made in the UK. Also in Thailand, Brazil and India (in partnership with Bajaj). Obviously, but chances are, if buying a Triumph, with few exceptions, it's not made in the UK. Appears not much is any more, was my initial thought, and why Brexit has hit the UK hard. Lack or manufacturing, for UK or export, and not being self sufficient on feeding itself. So many defunct vehicle manufactures. Though same worldwide, when labor & taxes are simply too high an overhead, and cheaper to make UK products elsewhere, then import them in. Whether simply cheaper or better made (ex; MGs) outside the UK, USA or where ever they keep a HQ, probably for import tax purposes, or just to say, a UK or USA brand ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: Obviously, but chances are, if buying a Triumph, with few exceptions, it's not made in the UK. But you stated they are no longer made there. I was correcting you. 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: Appears not much is any more, was my initial thought, and why Brexit has hit the UK hard. Lack or manufacturing, for UK or export, and not being self sufficient on feeding itself. Nothing to do with Brexit. Manufacturing in the UK has been in decline for years. It's a service based economy since long before Brexit. 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: So many defunct vehicle manufactures. Though same worldwide, when labor & taxes are simply too high an overhead, and cheaper to make UK products elsewhere, then import them in. Yes. Like Triumph, R&D is in the UK, but unless you want the UK workforce to work for 10 dollars a day then it's cheaper to manufacture in Asia. 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: Whether simply cheaper or better made (ex; MGs) outside the UK, USA or where ever they keep a HQ, probably for import tax purposes, or just to say, a UK or USA brand ???? It's cheaper. End of. I'd rather have a bike made in Europe like my 899 or Japan like my MT09, but Thai made Triumph's are still very good build quality. I personally wouldn't buy a Chinese made vehicle for both ethical and quality reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: Obviously, but chances are, if buying a Triumph, with few exceptions, it's not made in the UK. Appears not much is any more, was my initial thought, and why Brexit has hit the UK hard. Lack or manufacturing, for UK or export, and not being self sufficient on feeding itself. So many defunct vehicle manufactures. Though same worldwide, when labor & taxes are simply too high an overhead, and cheaper to make UK products elsewhere, then import them in. Whether simply cheaper or better made (ex; MGs) outside the UK, USA or where ever they keep a HQ, probably for import tax purposes, or just to say, a UK or USA brand ???? Same goes for stereo speakers. I just bought a pair of French designed and engineered speakers made in China and an English designed and engineered sub woofer made in China. Before covid I saw quite a few Indian built KTM Dukes around Pattaya. Now they have all disappeared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, JonnyF said: But you stated they are no longer made there. I was correcting you. Nothing to do with Brexit. Manufacturing in the UK has been in decline for years. It's a service based economy since long before Brexit. Yes. Like Triumph, R&D is in the UK, but unless you want the UK workforce to work for 10 dollars a day then it's cheaper to manufacture in Asia. It's cheaper. End of. I'd rather have a bike made in Europe like my 899 or Japan like my MT09, but Thai made Triumph's are still very good build quality. I personally wouldn't buy a Chinese made vehicle for both ethical and quality reasons. Reading comprehension ... ... not because of Brexit ... but why Brexit hit so far Other point, we'll just have to agree to disagree on quality out of CH. Big fan myself ???? 3 hours ago, KhunLA said: Appears not much is any more, was my initial thought, and why Brexit has hit the UK hard. Lack or manufacturing, for UK or export, and not being self sufficient on feeding itself. Edited August 10, 2023 by KhunLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Reading comprehension ... ... not because of Brexit ... but why Brexit hit so far Nothing to do with Brexit UK cannot compete with Asian assembled motorcycles. Get someone in UK to make all components and get them ensemble aboard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickstart Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 On 8/8/2023 at 9:38 PM, Treebeard said: A good point as you mention the excellent fit and finish, so I would say that it's basically a Triumph designed bike, built to Triumph standards by Bajaj. Semantics by myself, as I am a Triumph fan. Similarly, as Bajaj build some KTM's. Also remember, most Triumphs are made in Thailand now, very few in England. Triumph Motorcycles To Increase Production At Hinckley, UK (carandbike.com) The link above from last year, say Triumph are going to increase production at Hinckley up to 15 000 units /year. A lot will be the top end market bikes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/10/2023 at 5:23 PM, KhunLA said: Reading comprehension ... ... not because of Brexit ... but why Brexit hit so far Other point, we'll just have to agree to disagree on quality out of CH. Big fan myself ???? Well, without wishing to turn this into a Brexit thread you might wish to note that the UK economy is doing fine, while the German economy with all it's manufacturing is struggling. So Brexit didn't really "hit that hard" given the Germans stayed in the EU and are doing worse than the UK who left. https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/german-recession-will-be-sharper-than-expected-ifo-2023-06-21/ Back to Triumph, I'm expecting 189,000 for the Speed and 199,000 for the Scrambler. Reviews of the speed have been very positive, although I personally prefer the looks of the scrambler (which seems to be mainly a styling exercise since a CRF300L would obliterate it in any real-world off road conditions). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Neilly said: A reasonable price for the Speed. Can't see the scrambler doing much scrambling though , especially at an extra 22,000 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebeard Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Neilly said: Unbelievable value. Cheaper than a Honda Forza, well the speed is, scrambler almost the same price, ???? Edited October 9, 2023 by Treebeard add extra text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 It's on the Triumph website... https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.th/bikes/classic/speed-400 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbeth Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 delivery in January next year's gonna miss the bulk of the Thai riding season, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post papa al Posted October 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2023 6 hours ago, digbeth said: delivery in January next year's gonna miss the bulk of the Thai riding season, Riding season is 365.25 days per year. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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