13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the Thai government has already prepared plans to handle the situation,

Is this why among other reasons the RTP has yet to implement the Prevention and Suppression of Torture and Enforced Dissapearance Act of 2022? 

RTP says it lacks the money, training, equipment and guidelines to implement the law. You know, like it seems with all the other laws RTP is supposed to enforce.

Just as an aside, the RTP is under the supervision ofthe National Police Commission chaired by PM Prayut.

6 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

 

AFAIK, only one person can provide a Pardon.

 

 

Justifying a Pardon for a single individual, who was portrayed as an enemy of the state, will require threading a needle.

 

 

 

 

Yet if you lead a military coup you can write your own amnesty

9 hours ago, scorecard said:

by a legitinate court (no folks it wasn't a military kangaroo court

Convicted in absentia. Provision in the new Organic Act on Criminal Procedure for Holders of Political Positions of 2017 passed by a pro-junta Parliament that allows trials in absentia. 

Sounds more like a Jester court than a kangaroo court.

 

2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

The military are neutered.

Yesterday’s heroes.

Done and dusted.

I think they still have weapons. 

I seem to remember before the last coup some saying it wouldn't happen as a lot of the actual soldiers are from red shirt areas so wouldn't get involved. The water melon army,  green on the outside but red on the inside. That didn't work out. 

All are equal, but some are more equal than others...

It's quite amusing how whenever corrupt politicians are caught in the act, with clear evidence of their wrongdoing, they quickly begin to cry out that the accusations and/or legal actions against them are driven by political motives. Unfortunately it often works.

1 hour ago, bannork said:

From the poster who excitedly proclaimed Thaksin was coming back on his birthday. 

What happened there, Jim? 

And on the 10th, announced by his daughter. Tomorrow! 

That doc appointment didn't stop him and sis going to see the dictator Hun Sen. I bet they felt right at home there 

Wissanu said in Thai ขอว่าอย่า which translates as "Please don't '' or "I'm asking you to not....''

He wasn't begging Thaksin, rather, I think, he was playing down Thaksin's significance.

' Hey, come whenever you like, everything's  ready, just don't come on public holidays, it'll be a hassle.'

 

The date of his return is imminent.

 

Perhaps days, maybe weeks, possibly months, nevertheless, it’s happening.

The man is back, centre stage and there he’ll stay until MF finish him off.

 

Don't be surprised if he shows up on a weekend just to rub salt into the losers wounds.

 

44 minutes ago, Roel said:

It's quite amusing how whenever corrupt politicians are caught in the act, with clear evidence of their wrongdoing, they quickly begin to cry out that the accusations and/or legal actions against them are driven by political motives. Unfortunately it often works.

Clear evidence?

55 minutes ago, kimamey said:

I think they still have weapons. 

I seem to remember before the last coup some saying it wouldn't happen as a lot of the actual soldiers are from red shirt areas so wouldn't get involved. The water melon army,  green on the outside but red on the inside. That didn't work out. 

What good are guns if you can’t use them?

8 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

What good are guns if you can’t use them?

I'm sure they can but three threat is often enough. 

If the military decide on a coup, and there's no suggestion yet that they will, but if they want to they've got a lot of experience. 

18 minutes ago, kimamey said:

I'm sure they can but three threat is often enough. 

If the military decide on a coup, and there's no suggestion yet that they will, but if they want to they've got a lot of experience. 

A lot of past experience with an uninformed and obedient public - neither of those descriptions still apply, particularly when it comes to the youth (an ever increasing demographic).

 

If they could get away with a military coup, it would have already happened.
 

Nowadays, Thaksin is their only hope to slow down the inevitable.

A failed coup would ensure that the elites are upended root and branch as their last bargaining chip - a non violent transition, would no longer be an option.

 

These cowards are too afraid to go all in on a certain loss.

2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

The date of his return is imminent.

 

Perhaps days, maybe weeks, possibly months, nevertheless, it’s happening.

The man is back, centre stage and there he’ll stay until MF finish him off.

 

Don't be surprised if he shows up on a weekend just to rub salt into the losers wounds.

 

Boring comment...

Will he still be deputy PM when new Government formulated? 

5 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Show me what is nonsense in any of the above post or what is not true

 

You made a statement, back it up.

All of it.

13 hours ago, scorecard said:

Given that he was an 'elected' PM and then   convicted and sentenced to jail on several cases by a legitinate court (no folks it wasn't a military kangaroo court)

However, he was democraticaly elected and the court was under the control of the usual influence peddlers.

14 hours ago, scorecard said:

I feel that the country is being put through a lot of unnecesary frustration and pain by a convicted egomanian criminal, who believes he's entitled to a speial deal. When right now the country has serious complex problems trying to get a PM elected and seated.  

 

But then we don't know what the paymasters game plan is, without doubt it will be a plan to get him into a position of authority. Thailands trump syndrome. 

 

Given that he was an 'elected' PM and then   convicted and sentenced to jail on several cases by a legitinate court (no folks it wasn't a military kangaroo court) I wonder what the Thai law says  about running for office / holding any future political / bureaucratic positions in the future.

 

There is a precedent with manarat who did several years time in an OZ jail and prayut claimed 'it wasn't in Thailand so it was nor relevant. A big difference is that the paymaster was a sitting PM in Thailand when he committeed serious offence. 

It is not Thaksins fault that there is a problem with the new government ! It’s the Thai people who have been robbed of their choice . Thaksin a criminal ? He’s just like the present government, come to think of it, he’s much better than the present government that has practically ruined the country. 
Personally, I’d rather Thaksin than the other gang of thieves, one of which is a real bonafide criminal. 

4 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

The date of his return is ps days, maybe weeks, possibly months, nevertheless, it’s happening.

The man is back, centre stage and there he’ll stay until MF finish him off.

 

Don't be surprised if he shows up on a weekend just to rub salt into the losers wounds.

 

I like your flexible use of English, Jim.

'Imminent' can mean months, lol 

 Thaksin has always been back, backing his minions through his family. A typical old fashioned political clan.

Only he daren't come back, afraid the door will slam shut on him or worse .

20 times already, Jim 

 

 

 

What about the Redbull Heir and the police manslaughter case ?

36 minutes ago, bannork said:

I like your flexible use of English, Jim.

'Imminent' can mean months, lol 

 Thaksin has always been back, backing his minions through his family. A typical old fashioned political clan.

Only he daren't come back, afraid the door will slam shut on him or worse .

20 times already, Jim 

 

 

 

He’s been out of the country for 17 years.
 

99% of his exile is over.

 

He’ll be home soon enough, most likely within weeks (an imminent timeframe when measured against the aforementioned 17 years) all dependent, of course, upon how the PM voting plays out in the coming days.

 

Do you think the many many Thais scattered across the globe in self imposed exile to avoid political persecution are wrong to be afraid of what awaits them whilst Thailand remains under junta rule?

2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

All of it.

What a poor response to a post when

you cannot find anything that is untrue.

 

I make that Game, set and match.

 

29 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

He’s been out of the country for 17 years.
 

99% of his exile is over.

 

He’ll be home soon enough, most likely within weeks (an imminent timeframe when measured against the aforementioned 17 years) all dependent, of course, upon how the PM voting plays out in the coming days.

 

Do you think the many many Thais scattered across the globe in self imposed exile to avoid political persecution are wrong to be afraid of what awaits them whilst Thailand remains under juolfnta rule?

They're not wrong but they don't keep announcing they're coming home.

Can only cry wolf so many times 

7 hours ago, kimamey said:

I think they still have weapons. 

I seem to remember before the last coup some saying it wouldn't happen as a lot of the actual soldiers are from red shirt areas so wouldn't get involved. The water melon army,  green on the outside but red on the inside. That didn't work out. 

That was at the last election when the cheating and lying were not so obvious.

 

It was also during the time when there were more older yellow shirts and rabid royalists.

 

Many of them have died off, but many more youths are around demanding a change.

 

The military was also a bit more popular, plus the thin skinned and boneheaded senators were not around either.

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

Boring comment...

But not to everybody.

49 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

What a poor response to a post when

you cannot find anything that is untrue.

 

I make that Game, set and match.

 

...when you cannot find anything that is untrue.

11 hours ago, bannork said:

Too many posters miss what Wissanu is really saying.

Wissanu is pointing out a very practical consideration. Thaksin needs to return on a week day because the banks need to be open to handle large cash withdrawals and deposits to ensure that Thaksin gets the best justice money can buy. 

28 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

Wissanu is pointing out a very practical consideration. Thaksin needs to return on a week day because the banks need to be open to handle large cash withdrawals and deposits to ensure that Thaksin gets the best justice money can buy. 

Well said that man.

 

He just needs to make sure his driver is up to speed with who he is handing the goodies to.

 

We don't want another ' box of chocolates ' episode.

23 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Is it only difficult with this criminal or with all criminals?

 

Imagine the police catches some criminals on the weekend. No sorry, we can't handle them now. Please wait until Monday when the office opens.

 

Really?

 

I suggest: Get in there! Or we throw you in.

 

 

He says he's coming by private aircraft so perhaps that means the first officicials to see him will be immigration when he reports to have his passport stamped on arrival.

 

So if there's an issue where to hold him, simple answer, the IDC (Immigration Detention Cente) which by numerous reports is way less than comfortable and holds at any time plenty of unsavoury characters.

 

His family could bring him food in plastic bags with a plastic spoon and a drink in a plastic bag and a rubber band to hang the drink off his finger. 

 

 

Amnesty vs. Pardon:)

There is a difference….