How much monthly salary should you pay for rescuing a bar girl?

[pacovl46]

First expat in Thailand rule: Never, and I mean NEVER get into a relationship with a bargirl, leave alone marry one, because it will never be the love of your life and there’s a 99% chance that it will end badly. You’ll put all your feelings and your money into her, “my parents’ house needs a new roof and my sister’s car broke down and she needs it to get to work, but doesn’t have the money for the repair because she supports here three kids and her parents, every month is something else, bla bla bla” and in the end when it falls apart, like it was crystal clear it would, you’ll be left with a heartache, an empty bank account and with lots of bad blood, asking yourself how you could’ve been so <deleted> stupid despite everyone’s warning. Better send her back to the bar and try to find a normal girlfriend, you know, one that has a regular job and is able to support herself. . 

[JensenZ]

18 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Finally a post of yours I agree with.

Much better to rent em for an hour or two here and there.

Sling them an extra 100 if you want your clothes washed and ironed.

Do you bring them around to your home? That's a no-no in my book - a big mistake. Don't get personally involved with bargirls and keep it entirely professional. Pay for your service, get your service and leave. The less conversation the better for both of you. Generally they become very annoying if they become familiar and start talking about their personal lives. They aren't the slightest bit interested in you or your personal life, which is fine. Don't try to make it something it can never be.

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

They aren't the slightest bit interested in you or your personal life,

What woman ever is?

[BritManToo]

31 minutes ago, pacovl46 said:

You’ll put all your feelings and your money into her, “my parents’ house needs a new roof and my sister’s car broke down and she needs it to get to work, but doesn’t have the money for the repair because she supports here three kids and her parents, every month is something else, bla bla bla” and in the end when it falls apart, like it was crystal clear it would, you’ll be left with a heartache, an empty bank account and with lots of bad blood, asking yourself how you could’ve been so <deleted> stupid despite everyone’s warning.

Never trust any woman and you won't have this problem (in Asia).

Only give her what you want to give her.

So many soft lads wanting to believe women!

Edited August 14, 2023 by BritManToo

[BritManToo]

10 hours ago, bignok said:

So all women are bad because you dated 1 or 2 bad ones?

They're all bad ones, if you stay with them long enough.

The guys that think different are the guys that never had LTRs.

[BritManToo]

12 hours ago, HandsomeTallFarang said:

No you haven't And no you aren't. ???????? Must be a sad existence if lying to other old men on the internet in an attempts to impress said old men is how you spend your time.

Many men are a little delusional about their lives, is it really a lie if you believe it yourself?

She is my best friend, how can you live with someone you don't trust, she is faithful to me, etc.

All delusional!

[JensenZ]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

They're all bad ones, if you stay with them long enough.

The guys that think different are the guys that never had LTRs.

Please don't presume to speak for everyone. I'm sorry to hear you've had such a bad run - could you be the problem? I'm doing fine in a 20-year relationship. No complaints at all.

[Andycoops]

19 hours ago, Goat said:

Did you make her stop working in the Patong tour company?

Most of the fellas who take on a bargirl dont want them working anymore. 

80,000 per month seems a bit high? She couldnt live on 30,000?

I know plenty of girls here in Isaan who work for local businesses and they get nowhere near 30k a month.

Most Thai people manage on half that and many more on less and keep a family together.

For example their electricity bills are often 500 baht a month or less running 1 fridge and 1 TV and some lighting.

 

A bank manager with a University degree will be making 35 - 45k a month or thereabouts depending on seniority, to put in some perspective.

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Please don't presume to speak for everyone. I'm sorry to hear you've had such a bad run - could you be the problem? I'm doing fine in a 20-year relationship. No complaints at all.

I was doing fine in a 30 year relationship .......... until I wasn't.

Now I'm doing fine in a 13 year relationship ....... but not risking as much!

Many men are a little delusional about their relationships.

Edited August 14, 2023 by BritManToo

[Scott]

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[Ralf001]

39 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Do you bring them around to your home? That's a no-no in my book - a big mistake.

Used to take em to a 5bht toilet, but I eventually got banned from them.

[FruitPudding]

Rescuing a prostitute. Such an odd concept.

 

She us perfectly capable of seeking other employment just like everyone else.

 

She chooses her occupation as it provides highest salary available to her.

 

They make plenty, why feel bad for them?

[arick]

Why don't you entertain me for today and put a price on it what do you think it should be I can have a good laugh

[thailandsgreat]

2 hours ago, pomchop said:

Years ago when the internet was an infant and there were internet shops everywhere i used to go to one in bkk near soi 11 to check /send emails almost daily.  Got to know a lot of gals who also came there...then one day one of them asks me to help her send an email to some guy in sweden as her english was rough,,,,she more or less told me to tell him how she missed him and how she needed more $$ as she was not working just wait him and need $$ for family etc...so next thing i know i am sending an email that i wrote in rough thai like english to this guy...well it worked and next thing u know i had several gals asking me to do same with various boyfriends.. i got pretty good at it as i knew how to write thai girl sytle english pretty well.....if i recall a couple of them ultimately ended up back in my hotel room....will never forget thinking some fool in sweden or usa or uk etc has no clue that a farang is writing these emails.....i doubt it has changed all that much except now have translation apps, facebook, etc but i would be that there are still a lot of gals getting monthly deposits to "wait for him" from multiple guys......just another "funny" memory of thailand and how it all seemed to work.

In Philippines some divided girls into  bar girls, street girls, chat girls, shop girls etc

 

Chat girls are the trickiest of all, according to most guys. Juggling several guys at once. And the PI girls don't need translator.

 

 

 

 

 

[kingstonkid]

21 hours ago, Goat said:

Gee, you really spoil them Mike.

Good heart.

Think seriously about this.  Was your mom a stay at home house wife?  

If so who paid for everything she got any clothes medical dental.  Who paid for holidays?  If your mother wanted something wher did she gt the money?

 

The thing that you seem to gloss over is that in some of these cases the women have family that they need to help ligitemately.

 

It is no different than if you ask a girl working at 7/11 or for the government to quit their job and be with you so that you can travel and do things.

 

Somewhere along the line you are going to leave her.  tired of her, tired f Thailand or you simply die 

 

Then she is going to hve to find work if she can again or she is going to need money to survive on.

 

Again why do people in the west get life insurance.  To provide for their family and their spouse. 

 

[kingstonkid]

1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

Rescuing a prostitute. Such an odd concept.

 

She us perfectly capable of seeking other employment just like everyone else.

 

She chooses her occupation as it provides highest salary available to her.

 

They make plenty, why feel bad for them?

I think a lot of bar girls get into the business thinking that they can make money on bar drinks and not have to do anything else.  

It is no different than the girl that gets a job at a massage parlour in some cases

[thailandsgreat]

13 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

I think a lot of bar girls get into the business thinking that they can make money on bar drinks and not have to do anything else.  

It is no different than the girl that gets a job at a massage parlour in some cases

In Japan many hostess clubs are like that. Many Western girls work there. And then there are other types of clubs, I would assume ...

Edited August 15, 2023 by thailandsgreat

[NORDO]

You don't rescue bar girls, tyou give them a chance to hose you.

If you want to pick one up for a holiday, then 20 quid daily and expense is plenty.

 

If you are going to keep one long term and pickup the expenses, then she should be paying you.

 

Otherwise send her back to her rats nest and let her flip tricks.

[kingstonkid]

1 minute ago, thailandsgreat said:

In Japan many hostess clubs are like that. Many Western girls work there. And then there are other types of clubs, I assume ...

saw them on tv for the right girl it seemed they can get quite rich doing this.  Would not surprise me that some of them are paying their way through uni doing it.

 

Back in teh 80's new a lot of girls in Toronto that worked in strip clubs afternoons evenings and were studying to be doctors and lawyers during the day.

[Adumbration]

Worthless topic in the absence of photos of the bar girl.

[thailandsgreat]

6 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

saw them on tv for the right girl it seemed they can get quite rich doing this.  Would not surprise me that some of them are paying their way through uni doing it.

 

Back in teh 80's new a lot of girls in Toronto that worked in strip clubs afternoons evenings and were studying to be doctors and lawyers during the day.

The geisha tradition. They can earn and save quite well. In Japan they also have male escorts. But massaging the the feet of the yakuza wives seems like playing with fire ????

[kingstonkid]

5 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Worthless topic in the absence of photos of the bar girl.

Hope this helps make the topic better

 

[Bangkok Barry]

22 hours ago, Goat said:

What is fair?

Her getting a different job out of the bar instead of you paying her a 'wage'. You know, like normal women do.

[bkk6060]

No one is rescuing them from anything.  The majority of these girls love their job.  Money and love of the game, attention, hang out with girlfreinds, wake up late eat noodles drink and gamble, play on phone all day and night, no old man trying to control their life.

They much prefer this bar lifestyle don't be naive about it.

[pomchop]

30 minutes ago, thailandsgreat said:

In Japan many hostess clubs are like that. Many Western girls work there. And then there are other types of clubs, I would assume ...

watch the netflix series about japanese hostess bars...the case of lucie blackman...entertaining and scary what happens

 

  https://www.netflix.com/title/81671836#:~:text=July 1%2C 2000.,Watch all you want.

[BritManToo]

55 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

Again why do people in the west get life insurance.  To provide for their family and their spouse. 

Men not people ....... Women rarely buy life insurance, they don't care about their family after they die.

[VinnieK]

Zero.

I wouldn't even pay a normal girl let alone a prostitute 

[hotandsticky]

2 minutes ago, VinnieK said:

Zero.

I wouldn't even pay a normal girl let alone a prostitute 

 

Everybody pays.

[newbee2022]

22 hours ago, Goat said:

As we see many Farang White Knights like to rescue the bargirls from the bar and take them on as a girlfriend or wife.

 

The big difference between having a normal girlfriend and a bar girlfriend is mostly the new fella with a bargirl will want her to give up her job.

With a normal girl with a respectful job this does not need to happen.

 

A. Since she will now have a full time job 24/7 and not as much time off you should pay her more than she was getting before. She will in most cases be expected to do housework and help the farang with his day to day life and be a translator.

 

B. Since you are stopping her from earning you should pay her what she was getting previously.

 

C. She now has it easier in some ways so a minimum type wage will be sufficient.

 

D. Food, board and medical expenses is enough, and some cash to pay for her children from other fathers.

 

E. Let her stay at your place but give her nothing and let her keep working.

 

What is fair?

Turn and walk away asap !????

[KhunLA]

5 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

Everybody pays.

Not really, as it depends on one's self marketability.  

 

Some need to pay, some don't.  Yep, I'm all that, and a plate of somtam ????