Popular Post Social Media Posted August 14, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 14, 2023 Nearly half of Britons want a second Brexit referendum in the next 10 years, a new YouGov poll has revealed. More than a quarter of people support a referendum as soon as the end of 2023. In a survey taken between the 8 to 9 August, 46 per cent of people said there should be a referendum in the next 10 years, while 36 per cent of people said there should not. The poll also surveyed how much progress has been made with the Brexit deal, though the results show little satisfaction. Less than a third of people (30 per cent) think Brexit is “done”, while almost half (49 per cent) said it is not complete. However, in an earlier survey conducted between 28 February to 1 March, only 18 per cent thought Brexit was done while 60 per cent said it was not.When asked how they would vote if there was a referendum on joining the EU, half of the participants said they would vote to join. FULL STORY 1 5
youreavinalaff Posted August 14, 2023 Posted August 14, 2023 41 minutes ago, Social Media said: Nearly half of Britons Nothing new in that. 48% is " Nearly half". 43 minutes ago, Social Media said: Less than a third of people (30 per cent) think Brexit is “done”, while almost half (49 per cent) said it is not complete. However, in an earlier survey conducted between 28 February to 1 March, only 18 per cent thought Brexit was done while 60 per cent said it was not 60% and then 49% agree with what I've been saying all along. Only 18% then 30% agree with the 3 amigos on here. 1
Popular Post candide Posted August 14, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Nothing new in that. 48% is " Nearly half". 60% and then 49% agree with what I've been saying all along. Only 18% then 30% agree with the 3 amigos on here. But "46 per cent of people said there should be a referendum in the next 10 years, while 36 per cent of people said there should not." And also "Six in ten (62 per cent) believe Brexit has been more of a failure than a success, and a majority (55 per cent) say we were wrong to vote to leave in the first place." 5 2
Popular Post youreavinalaff Posted August 14, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, candide said: But "46 per cent of people said there should be a referendum in the next 10 years, while 36 per cent of people said there should not." And also "Six in ten (62 per cent) believe Brexit has been more of a failure than a success, and a majority (55 per cent) say we were wrong to vote to leave in the first place." It cannot be a failure. Not yet. Remember, it's not complete. As the poll shows people to think. 48% said next ten years. 36% said not in next 10 years. Not " never" or "soon" or " tomorrow". 1 5
Popular Post vinny41 Posted August 14, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 14, 2023 Unsurprisingly, it is Remain voters who are most in favour of a new EU referendum, with 41% saying there should be one this year, 61% saying so within the next five years, and 70% in the next ten years. By contrast, only 8% of Leave voters support a referendum in 2023, 16% think there should be one in the next five years, and 20% within the next ten years. https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2023/08/14/46-36-britons-say-there-should-be-another-eu-refer I haven't seen anything from the EU that indicates it wants the UK back in the EU fold and on what terms 2 2 3
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 14, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 14, 2023 3 hours ago, youreavinalaff said: It cannot be a failure. Not yet. Remember, it's not complete. As the poll shows people to think. 48% said next ten years. 36% said not in next 10 years. Not " never" or "soon" or " tomorrow". That’s like saying a tangled parachute has not yet failed because the parachutist hasn’t yet splatted on the ground. 4 1 3 2
Popular Post RayC Posted August 14, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, youreavinalaff said: It cannot be a failure. Not yet. Remember, it's not complete. As the poll shows people to think. 48% said next ten years. 36% said not in next 10 years. Not " never" or "soon" or " tomorrow". All of a sudden you start to believe in the results of polls ???? 4
Kwasaki Posted August 15, 2023 Posted August 15, 2023 11 hours ago, Social Media said: When asked how they would vote if there was a referendum on joining the EU, half of the participants said they would vote to join. Yeah the sad help me I can't help myself brigade. 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted August 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 15, 2023 Here's a record of the results fram Jan 26, 2020 through Jul 20, 2023 of various polls asking "In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the European Union? https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/ 1 1 1 3 2
Popular Post youreavinalaff Posted August 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: That’s like saying a tangled parachute has not yet failed because the parachutist hasn’t yet splatted on the ground. 60% agreed. We know you like a Brexit poll. I guess this one doesn't suit so you have to attempt humour. 1 2
youreavinalaff Posted August 15, 2023 Posted August 15, 2023 8 hours ago, RayC said: All of a sudden you start to believe in the results of polls ???? Not polls. No. 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted August 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 15, 2023 14 hours ago, youreavinalaff said: It cannot be a failure. Not yet. Remember, it's not complete. As the poll shows people to think. 48% said next ten years. 36% said not in next 10 years. Not " never" or "soon" or " tomorrow". If you look more closely at the graph, you'll see that a far higher percentage of Remain voters than Leave voter think Brexit isn't done. Given the increasingly negative evaluation of Brexit by UK citizens, the opinion that Brexit isn't done doesn't exactly look like a vote of confidence. 3
youreavinalaff Posted August 15, 2023 Posted August 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, placeholder said: If you look more closely at the graph, you'll see that a far higher percentage of Remain voters than Leave voter think Brexit isn't done. Given the increasingly negative evaluation of Brexit by UK citizens, the opinion that Brexit isn't done doesn't exactly look like a vote of confidence. It depends what side of the fence you are on. I can see both sides. If something is not finished, it could get better or worse. Many people could be confident. Many might not. Your comment is biased towards "not". 1 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted August 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: It depends what side of the fence you are on. I can see both sides. If something is not finished, it could get better or worse. Many people could be confident. Many might not. Your comment is biased towards "not". Well, maybe you think it's just as likely that remain supporters think that things will get better as Brexit progresses as it will get worse. Given other polling, that seems like a very very dubious assumption. Especially given that at this point polls consistently show far more voters think it was a mistake than not. Is it likely that those who think Brexit was a mistake think the outcome will turn out to be better than remaining would have been? 3
youreavinalaff Posted August 15, 2023 Posted August 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: Well, maybe you think it's just as likely that remain supporters think that things will get better as Brexit progresses as it will get worse. Given other polling, that seems like a very very dubious assumption. Especially given that at this point polls consistently show far more voters think it was a mistake than not. Is it likely that those who think Brexit was a mistake think the outcome will turn out to be better than remaining would have been? 55% I believe. That's what this poll shows. Hardly "far more". 1
placeholder Posted August 15, 2023 Posted August 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: 55% I believe. That's what this poll shows. Hardly "far more". What percentage still support it? 2
Popular Post brewsterbudgen Posted August 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 15, 2023 10 years?! Can we really afford to wait that long? 4 2
JonnyF Posted August 15, 2023 Posted August 15, 2023 I suggest we revisit the polls on how people would vote before the actual vote in 2016 before we take this too seriously. They all predicted Remain. Hence the shock and horror on the face of the “totally unbiased” BBC pundits when the result came through. Even if we voted to rejoin I doubt the EU would be interested. They have enough problems such as their powerhouse economy Germany being in recession and the corruption scandal. Last thing they need is Farage and co. ruining their cozy setup. Nah, we’re out of the corrupt federalist project. Thank goodness. 2 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted August 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Nah, we’re out of the corrupt federalist project. Thank goodness. Thank goodness indeed! "A survey by pollsters Survation found that 59 per cent of voters think the government’s “high priority” lane for friends and associates is corrupt, while just 16 per cent think it is not. In November the National Audit Office revealed that Boris Johnson’s government had set up the fast-track lane “to assess and process potential PPE leads from government officials, ministers’ offices, MPs and lords”. For those on the list, the chances of success when bidding for a government contract were one in 10, compared to just one in a hundred for other suppliers." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/government-s-coronavirus-contract-awards-to-tory-friends-are-corruption-public-believe-b1776319.html "The procurement system was cobbled together during a meeting of anxious bureaucrats in late March, and a wealthy former investment banker and Conservative Party grandee, Paul Deighton, who sits in the House of Lords, was later tapped to act as the government’s czar for personal protective equipment. Eight months on, Lord Deighton has helped the government award billions of dollars in contracts –– including hundreds of millions to several companies where he has financial interests or personal connections. The contracts that have been made public are only a part of the total." https://archive.ph/Lei0Z https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/17/world/europe/britain-covid-contracts.html The UK is well on its way to becoming a banana republic...rather....make that banana parliamentary democracy. 4 2
Popular Post placeholder Posted August 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I suggest we revisit the polls on how people would vote before the actual vote in 2016 before we take this too seriously. They all predicted Remain. Hence the shock and horror on the face of the “totally unbiased” BBC pundits when the result came through. Even if we voted to rejoin I doubt the EU would be interested. They have enough problems such as their powerhouse economy Germany being in recession and the corruption scandal. Last thing they need is Farage and co. ruining their cozy setup. Nah, we’re out of the corrupt federalist project. Thank goodness. No they did not all predict remain. And in fact as the referendum day approached the polls got tighter and tighter. At the end a 2 point spread separated them. Within the margin of error. https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/ 6
Seppius Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12444543/Germany-remains-sick-man-Europe-economy-stagnates-Brexit-Britain-continues-growth.html Germany's stagnating economy - which had fallen into recession earlier this year - is in stark contrast to Brexit Britain's economy, which continues to see growth. The UK's economy grew by 0.2 per cent in the second quarter of the year, with June's sunny weather encouraging Britons to eat out and spend more. 1
Popular Post candide Posted August 25, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, Seppius said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12444543/Germany-remains-sick-man-Europe-economy-stagnates-Brexit-Britain-continues-growth.html Germany's stagnating economy - which had fallen into recession earlier this year - is in stark contrast to Brexit Britain's economy, which continues to see growth. The UK's economy grew by 0.2 per cent in the second quarter of the year, with June's sunny weather encouraging Britons to eat out and spend more. Yet... https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/ 3 1
transam Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 2:24 PM, brewsterbudgen said: 10 years?! Can we really afford to wait that long? You are in ol' Blighty................? ???? 1
Popular Post RayC Posted August 25, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Seppius said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12444543/Germany-remains-sick-man-Europe-economy-stagnates-Brexit-Britain-continues-growth.html Germany's stagnating economy - which had fallen into recession earlier this year - is in stark contrast to Brexit Britain's economy, which continues to see growth. The UK's economy grew by 0.2 per cent in the second quarter of the year, with June's sunny weather encouraging Britons to eat out and spend more. And there we have it. Conclusive proof that Brexit has been beneficial for the UK???? 1 3
Popular Post Sing_Sling Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 26, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 4:25 AM, youreavinalaff said: It cannot be a failure. Not yet. ???? ???? ???? ???? The country is a laughing stock, its economy is in tatters, the fifth PM in eight years and the list goes on. Brexit is done and the only ones dragging it along in the British public's mind are the politicians who still go on about the horrible EU, Brussels, von der Leyen, Germany, France etc... Great at deflection for the uneducated and xenophobic masses 5 2 1
Danderman123 Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 Another option would be to negotiate a new deal with the EU. 1 1 1
vinny41 Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 37 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Another option would be to negotiate a new deal with the EU. Have to wait until Zelensky Ukraine has joined before the EU would consider the UK for any EU accession process and will the support to rejoin remain if the UK has to use the Euro as currency
Kwasaki Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: Another option would be to negotiate a new deal with the EU. Or the EU to stop licking it's Sores and be reasonable because we left the club. 1 1
transam Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Sing_Sling said: ???? ???? ???? ???? The country is a laughing stock, its economy is in tatters, the fifth PM in eight years and the list goes on. Brexit is done and the only ones dragging it along in the British public's mind are the politicians who still go on about the horrible EU, Brussels, von der Leyen, Germany, France etc... Great at deflection for the uneducated and xenophobic masses Are you German, by any chance.............? ???? 1 1
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