Popular Post poyai111 Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 26, 2023 7 hours ago, ozimoron said: Riot at the capitol? Fake electors? Biden has committed more egregious acts than that? Really? Let's not kid ourselves, What can be more egregious than selling out your own country? 2 1 1 2
Popular Post pomchop Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 26, 2023 21 minutes ago, poyai111 said: What can be more egregious than selling out your own country? Making a bunch of BS statements with no evidence to back a statement is pretty egregious....not to mention a few other adjectives. 1 2
LosLobo Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 9 hours ago, shipwrecked said: Anyone know the reason why SDNY and the feds DID NOT photograph Trump during arraignment? Your post would make more sense if Fulton County did actually photograph Trump during arraignment. Trump has only been arrested and processed by Fulton County his arraignment has yet to take place.
Popular Post Walker88 Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 26, 2023 9 hours ago, shipwrecked said: Anyone know the reason why SDNY and the feds DID NOT photograph Trump during arraignment? Easy. I'll take the one who: ---has stood tall against putin and decided to aid Ukraine in its fight against the little aggressor, rather than the one who walked out of a private meeting in Helsinki looking ghost-like after putin read him the riot act --the one who embraces democracy, not the one who tried to overthrow it ---the one who is and acts like an adult, not the ever-whining crybaby fatboy loser ---the one who took the 6.8% unemployment he inherited along with the trump Recession, and has the economy growing and unemployment at a 55 year low of 3.4%, rather than the one who inherited 4.8% UE and a growing economy after his predecessor saved the banking system and the insurance industry, but then left real American Carnage for Biden One man is a real fighter, the other is an abject coward who can only pretend he's tough and only fool the dimwitted cultists and the childish goobers who worship him 5 1 1
LosLobo Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 14 hours ago, JulesMad said: ...which he is ???? It is also a perfect photo to use as target practice, in the toilet or on the wall (or wherever!) ???? James Comey reported that handler Vlad may have some evidence that would suggest Trump actually enjoyed one of those options. 2
Popular Post pomchop Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 26, 2023 17 hours ago, charmonman said: I’m disappointed they let him report his own weight instead of weighing him at Fulton County Jail. He would no doubt claim that their scale was rigged. and why would a man who is very very very rich need a local bailsbond man to post a measly 200 k bond ....that is pocket change to a billionaire....lets see 200 k is .02% that is 2 /100th of 1 percent of ONE billion and according to donnie boy he is worth four or five billion....i would think he would have a couple hundred K in his pocket in case he met a porn star who demands cash....and as trump promised all his clever supporters he is very very very rich and would never ask for or need anyone elses money....i guess he just loves to send out emails begging the maga bunch to send him $$ every other day or sell a bunch of flags or bumper stickers and now he will have a new t shirt with his mug shot for them to gobble up....don't trumpers ever tire of being conned by the grifter ? Obviously not. 2 2
Popular Post LosLobo Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, poyai111 said: What can be more egregious than selling out your own country? You mean like when asset Trump sold out to handler Putin at Helsinki in 2018? 1 2
Popular Post Walker88 Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2023 The goobers who think trump's silly mugshot looks tough are the same people who think Professional Wrestling is real and Men in Black is a documentary. 4 1
Popular Post poyai111 Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2023 2 hours ago, pomchop said: Making a bunch of BS statements with no evidence to back a statement is pretty egregious....not to mention a few other adjectives. BS statements? Really? The Committee has incontrovertible evidence of corruption. Enough to establish an indictment enquiry. Unlike the Dems, when the committee's findings do effect an enquiry, their case will be watertight and compelling 5
Popular Post pomchop Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2023 Just now, poyai111 said: BS statements? Really? The Committee has incontrovertible evidence of corruption. Enough to establish an indictment enquiry. Unlike the Dems, when the committee's findings do effect an enquiry, their case will be watertight and compelling well by all means turn all of that evidence over to your "indictment enquiry" whatever that is... so we can take a look at it and then lets see if a grand jury agrees....otherwise just more noise....oh and is all that incontrovertible evidence in the same basket as all the irrefutable evidence that trump promised to release proving the big lie last week...oh that's right he is saving that secret evidence up to spring on the world at trial...a trial where all he has to do is lay all of that evidence out and since it is irrefutable no doubt all charges will be immediately dropped....yes BS statements really. 6
Popular Post Walker88 Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, poyai111 said: BS statements? Really? The Committee has incontrovertible evidence of corruption. Enough to establish an indictment enquiry. Unlike the Dems, when the committee's findings do effect an enquiry, their case will be watertight and compelling Really? Do you know what 'incontrovertible' means? Is it claims from that fugitive friend of Rep comer, who is now on the run because: 1) He's an unregistered agent for the Chinese Govt 2) He's wanted for selling sanctioned Iranian oil? 3) He's wanted for trying to broker arms deals to Iran (and likely is justifiably scared of Mossad)? OTOH, there is incontrovertible evidence trump stole classified documents rated as TS/SCI, SAP, Codeword, HCS and RD, and that he did not declassify any of them (as there would be the required paper trail), plus he lied to the FBI about having returned them. There is also a tape recording where trump pressured GA SecState Raffensperger to "just find me 11,780 votes". There is also grand jury witness testimony, noted in an indictment, where trump 1) knew he lost in 2020, and 2) was intimately involved in the fake elector plot I wonder if your supposed claims spew from the little 5' 1" yapping chihuahua, Gym "That's Strauss" Jordan, the pedophile enabler? 3 2 1
Walker88 Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 Things we now "know" from trump's 4th arrest and booking: 6'3" and 215 llbs comes in many shapes and sizes, as noted by the trump image and the Chris Hemsworth image. Obama, always listed at between 6' and 6'1" is really 6'3". 1 1
Popular Post poyai111 Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Walker88 said: Really? Do you know what 'incontrovertible' means? Is it claims from that fugitive friend of Rep comer, who is now on the run because: 1) He's an unregistered agent for the Chinese Govt 2) He's wanted for selling sanctioned Iranian oil? 3) He's wanted for trying to broker arms deals to Iran (and likely is justifiably scared of Mossad)? OTOH, there is incontrovertible evidence trump stole classified documents rated as TS/SCI, SAP, Codeword, HCS and RD, and that he did not declassify any of them (as there would be the required paper trail), plus he lied to the FBI about having returned them. There is also a tape recording where trump pressured GA SecState Raffensperger to "just find me 11,780 votes". There is also grand jury witness testimony, noted in an indictment, where trump 1) knew he lost in 2020, and 2) was intimately involved in the fake elector plot I wonder if your supposed claims spew from the little 5' 1" yapping chihuahua, Gym "That's Strauss" Jordan, the pedophile enabler? Don't insult my intelligence by inferring that I share the same level of illiteracy as yourself. Secondly, be patient my friend and let's see where the hammer falls. 3
Hummin Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 19 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Remember a certain president with his WMD untruths? Caused the deaths of many, unlike Trump, who never started any wars. So if one wants to talk about causing disgrace, look elsewhere. Isn't this getting quite old argument now? He had a meeting with putin off records, what does that tell you? Is that okay, your president had a meeting with putin behind closed doors off record? And for the war and blockade against Iraq, there should had been some heads rolling to, but unfortunate nobody cared and protected each other! 2
Hummin Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 19 hours ago, MonteD said: Tug, you have too much hate in your heart, like several other regular contributors, y'all need to chill. Hate is what feeding his clan, nothing else. Unbelievable anyone can trust him as a president or identify themselves with him, and his behavior as well moral stand! 2 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2023 4 hours ago, poyai111 said: What can be more egregious than selling out your own country? You mean trading foreign policy for a few condos? Or do you mean arming Ukraine against Russia? Or do you mean preventing China and Russia getting access to advanced US chips? What does "selling out" mean to you besides innuendo? 4
Popular Post Walker88 Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2023 52 minutes ago, poyai111 said: Don't insult my intelligence by inferring that I share the same level of illiteracy as yourself. Secondly, be patient my friend and let's see where the hammer falls. Speaking of hammers, 91 felony indictments....some of which at the State level carry a mandatory jail sentence of 5 years...are heading trump's way like a comet. The documents case is a slam dunk, as it is illegal to willfully and knowingly steal and hold classified documents in a non-SCIF. Also, having held TS/SCI for years and having had classification authority, I know full well the procedure for declassification. trump did not follow it, cannot 'declassify in his mind', and obviously lied about declassifying. As an ex-POTUS, he holds no security clearance and has as much right to keep and see US classified documents as putin, xi or the mullahs of Iran. One wonders why those backing trump's spurious claim of declassification don't demand a full publication of each and every supposedly declassified document, so that putin, xi, the leadership of al Qaeda, the mullahs of Iran, etc., can enjoy reading them. Ms Lindsey? Can we see copies? I'm sure we'd all just love to know what penetrations the agency has of putin's inner circle, which would be in HCS documents trump stole (HCS=Human Clandestine Sources). It really makes one wonder why a country club owner and wedding planner needs such documents. As for intelligence and literacy, support for trump automatically leads to suspicions that the person sits well left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve. I fully agree that we do not share the same level of intelligence and literacy. 3 2 1
xylophone Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, Walker88 said: As for intelligence and literacy, support for trump automatically leads to suspicions that the person sits well left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve. Absolutely spot on Walker88........the only problem is that the trumpies can't figure that out!!! And as for the statement, "Don't insult my intelligence ..............." Well that from a trump supporter is an oxymoron; intelligence and trump? No way. 2
Popular Post poyai111 Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, Walker88 said: Speaking of hammers, 91 felony indictments....some of which at the State level carry a mandatory jail sentence of 5 years...are heading trump's way like a comet. The documents case is a slam dunk, as it is illegal to willfully and knowingly steal and hold classified documents in a non-SCIF. Also, having held TS/SCI for years and having had classification authority, I know full well the procedure for declassification. trump did not follow it, cannot 'declassify in his mind', and obviously lied about declassifying. As an ex-POTUS, he holds no security clearance and has as much right to keep and see US classified documents as putin, xi or the mullahs of Iran. One wonders why those backing trump's spurious claim of declassification don't demand a full publication of each and every supposedly declassified document, so that putin, xi, the leadership of al Qaeda, the mullahs of Iran, etc., can enjoy reading them. Ms Lindsey? Can we see copies? I'm sure we'd all just love to know what penetrations the agency has of putin's inner circle, which would be in HCS documents trump stole (HCS=Human Clandestine Sources). It really makes one wonder why a country club owner and wedding planner needs such documents. As for intelligence and literacy, support for trump automatically leads to suspicions that the person sits well left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve. I fully agree that we do not share the same level of intelligence and literacy. It's gratifying to know that we agree on at least one thing. However, your assessment of where each of us exists in the arena of awareness is entirely subjective and has therefore no legitimacy 3
Hummin Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, xylophone said: Absolutely spot on Walker88........the only problem is that the trumpies can't figure that out!!! And as for the statement, "Don't insult my intelligence ..............." Well that from a trump supporter is an oxymoron; intelligence and trump? No way. Well, not being a Trump fan either, but when the only two in lead for next election is a crook and a senile, you have to start thinking of the whole Usa, and where did it go wrong? Is it news, social media and those who contribute to each and one candidate who there is domething wrong with. Why is it so hard to produce two good normal candidates to give the trust back to the state? Obama seemed like a good candidate, but 35% hated him as well! 1 1 1
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Bkk Brian Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 20 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Remember a certain president with his WMD untruths? Caused the deaths of many, unlike Trump, who never started any wars. So if one wants to talk about causing disgrace, look elsewhere. When you have nothing to add, go off topic. Or would you also like to talk about the rapist Trump's mugshot? 2
Popular Post Walker88 Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2023 2 hours ago, poyai111 said: It's gratifying to know that we agree on at least one thing. However, your assessment of where each of us exists in the arena of awareness is entirely subjective and has therefore no legitimacy In other words, you have nothing to back up your claims that a hammer is coming for Biden, and absolutely no excuse for why trump stole classified docs, lied about returning them, was intimately involved in the plot to overthrow US democracy, and at the State level tried to pressure the Georgia SecState to overturn the results there. My personal opinion is that trump wanted to monetize the classified docs he stole. (It's pretty clear the supposed billionaire has a cash flow problem now.) There is never any reason for any POTUS to see, much less steal and retain, HCS docs. When a POTUS is briefed on highly sensitive intel, the human clandestine source is merely described, not noted by name. The description is generally something like "a highly placed source who previous reporting has been regularly verified as factual". That trump had HCS docs suggests he got them from one of his two lackey DNIs, either grenell or ratcliffe. No way DCI Gina Haspel nor trump's first DNI Coates would allow trump to become aware of the identities of clandestine assets. BTW, trump also had RD classified docs. Not even a POTUS---one who follows the proper procedure for declassification---has authority to declassify RD docs. That rests solely with the Dept of Energy, because since the Manhattan Project, it has been assumed that a POTUS is not up to speed on the details and intimacies of nuclear weapons and technology. President Carter might have come close, but remember trump didn't even know the most basic things about nukes, such as the "nuclear triad". 1 3
thaibeachlovers Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 On 8/26/2023 at 8:23 PM, JCauto said: Why you're absolutely right! Who was the lying leftie libtard who did that!?!? Oh, that would be the noted Liberal George Dubya Bush! Which political party was he a member of? Try referring to the post I quoted and stop deflecting. I wasn't talking about the GOP. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Walker88 said: In other words, you have nothing to back up your claims that a hammer is coming for Biden, and absolutely no excuse for why trump stole classified docs, lied about returning them, was intimately involved in the plot to overthrow US democracy, and at the State level tried to pressure the Georgia SecState to overturn the results there. It hasn't been proven that the documents were classified or even important. Only have leaks to say so. He hasn't been convicted of anything re "the plot to overthrow US democracy" so your assertion is just an opinion. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, xylophone said: Trust a bin-dipper to get confused! Ah, attacking posters you disagree with- is that all you have?
Popular Post candide Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: It hasn't been proven that the documents were classified or even important. Only have leaks to say so. He hasn't been convicted of anything re "the plot to overthrow US democracy" so your assertion is just an opinion. You should be more cautious and check information before posting.... https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-are-the-classified-documents-in-the-trump-indictment 5 1
Walker88 Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: It hasn't been proven that the documents were classified or even important. Only have leaks to say so. He hasn't been convicted of anything re "the plot to overthrow US democracy" so your assertion is just an opinion. Yes, it has been proven by the FBI and classification authorities that the documents found in his willful possession, for which he had no right, were classified as TS/SCi, SAP, Codeword, HCS and RD. As for his plot to overthrow US democracy, in the indictment re 6 June, witnesses to the grand jury, all of whom were trump appointees, testified that 1) he knew he lost the election, and 2) he was in meetings where the fake elector scheme was hatched and approved. All it will take for conviction is the first is FBI testimony stating what they found in his country club (the headings alone signify the classification level, and possible no material other than the visible headings need be made public, as that could threaten national security), and for the 6 January witnesses to testify and convince the jury that what they told the grand jury under oath is true. 2
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