US English teacher arrested for sexual relation with 16 y/o student

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BANGKOK - Law enforcement officials raided a popular language teacher's residence in the Phra Khanong district of Bangkok after discovering he had been engaging in a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old student. 

 

The teacher, known for his TikTok videos that have amassed over 1.3 million followers, was caught in the act and the incident was recorded on video, reported Siam Rath. 

 

On September 3rd, Lieutenant General Thitsit Sangsawan, commander of the Crime Suppression Division (CSD), ordered the arrest operation led by Deputy Commissioner Lieutenant General Piyarat Wesakanok, along with the assistance of the police investigative team from the Khlong Tan Police Station. 

 

The suspect, identified as Mr. Luke, an American national, had been wanted by the Southern Bangkok Criminal Court on charges of "taking a minor who is over 15 years old but not exceeding 18 years old away from their parents, guardian, or caretaker without reasonable cause, willingly and intentionally." 

 

His arrest has caused a significant stir on social media and he is expected to face legal action for his alleged crimes.

 

Picture: Siam Rath

 

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[ikke1959]

The question is how old is the teacher.. On the picture he doesn't seems so old, so it could be a normal situation, although it is not good to have a relation with a student. But look at president Macron of France .. he married his teacher

Edited September 3, 2023 by ikke1959

[retarius]

Well I suppose money and fame are not enough for some people. The desire to act out paedophilic fantasy is strong in some folk. I wish him all the best in Thai prison, maybe he can get a GoFundMe page?

[Skipalongcassidy]

For those of you who cannot get a handle on Google...

 

What is the Thailand Age of Consent?

The Age of Consent in Thailand is 15 years old. The age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity. Individuals aged 14 or younger in Thailand are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape or the equivalent local law.

Thailand statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual intercourse with a person under age 15. However, sex with a minor under age 18 is a compoundable offense, regardless of consent.

Thailand does not have a close-in-age exemption. Close in age exemptions, commonly known as "Romeo and Juliet laws" in the United States, are put in place to prevent the prosecution of individuals who engage in consensual sexual activity when both participants are significantly close in age to each other, and one or both partners are below the age of consent.

Because there is no close-in-age exemption in Thailand, it is possible for two individuals both under the age of 15 who willingly engage in intercourse to both be prosecuted for statutory rape, although this is rare. Similarly, no protections are reserved for sexual relations in which one participant is a 14 year old and the second is a 15 or 16 year old.

[ezzra]

You really had to made out of stone to resist some young attractive things throwing themselves at you, i know i too, would have problems with it, against the law or not, pity though that his life now are ruined.

Edited September 3, 2023 by ezzra

[SuperSaiyan]

47 minutes ago, retarius said:

Well I suppose money and fame are not enough for some people. The desire to act out paedophilic fantasy is strong in some folk. I wish him all the best in Thai prison, maybe he can get a GoFundMe page?

 

You should research again what pedophile means. Just a hint: It doesn't mean what you think it means.

[retarius]

1 hour ago, SuperSaiyan said:

 

You should research again what pedophile means. Just a hint: It doesn't mean what you think it means.

I am well aware of what paedophila is. It is a psychiatric term that came in to popular usage. It is defined differently by psychiatrists and in the law and popular usage.

 

Psychiatry defines it as a mental illness where there is sole sexual interest in pre-pubertal children. It is not a crime, unless the fantasies are acted upon.

 

Common popular usage in the MSM and elsewhere, defines it as sex with minors below the age of majority. Age of majority varies from country to country. In the UK it is 16, in the US it is 18 and in Thailand I believe it is 20.

 

The guy is American, it is a crime in the US for a US citizen to have sex with a minor. The crime is statutory rape and carries a seven years sentence. They are aka sex pests and have to report to the police where they are living or sign the sex offenders register. The crime is often popularly referred to as pedophilia and the convicts are referred to as pedos or pedophiles, and this includes anyone having sex with minors irrespective of whether the minor was pre-pubertal.

 

 

[SuperSaiyan]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

I am well aware of what paedophila is. It is a psychiatric term that came in to popular usage. It is defined differently by psychiatrists and in the law and popular usage.

 

Psychiatry defines it as a mental illness where there is sole sexual interest in pre-pubertal children. It is not a crime, unless the fantasies are acted upon.

 

Common popular usage in the MSM and elsewhere, defines it as sex with minors below the age of majority. Age of majority varies from country to country. In the UK it is 16, in the US it is 18 and in Thailand I believe it is 20.

 

The guy is American, it is a crime in the US for a US citizen to have sex with a minor. The crime is statutory rape and carries a seven years sentence. They are aka sex pests and have to report to the police where they are living or sign the sex offenders register. The crime is often popularly referred to as pedophilia and the convicts are referred to as pedos or pedophiles, and this includes anyone having sex with minors irrespective of whether the minor was pre-pubertal.

 

 

 

You're mixing age of consent with the definition of pedophile. Just because you make something up doesn't make it correct. Your Americanized understanding doesn't mean anything to 2/3 of the world population. 

 

Don't believe everything what MSM is telling you, being attracted to a clearly post puberty 16 year old girl is not pedophilia. In fact, it is used to disguised the homosexual pedophiles by the media as using the term incorrectly is watering down the meaning. I'll give you a graphic example in hope you understand the issue: In case of a newspaper title of "homosexual couple rapes child" nobody thinks of a 0-10 year old child anymore.

 

 

[malone99]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

I am well aware of what paedophila is. It is a psychiatric term that came in to popular usage. It is defined differently by psychiatrists and in the law and popular usage.

 

Psychiatry defines it as a mental illness where there is sole sexual interest in pre-pubertal children. It is not a crime, unless the fantasies are acted upon.

 

Common popular usage in the MSM and elsewhere, defines it as sex with minors below the age of majority. Age of majority varies from country to country. In the UK it is 16, in the US it is 18 and in Thailand I believe it is 20.

 

The guy is American, it is a crime in the US for a US citizen to have sex with a minor. The crime is statutory rape and carries a seven years sentence. They are aka sex pests and have to report to the police where they are living or sign the sex offenders register. The crime is often popularly referred to as pedophilia and the convicts are referred to as pedos or pedophiles, and this includes anyone having sex with minors irrespective of whether the minor was pre-pubertal.

 

 

so according to your definition, if you have sex with a 19y old thai person, you're a pedophile. what a load of bs. 

it's very simple. sex with children, pre pubertal is pedophilia. sex with a minor is not. in many cases it's not even illegal. age of consent and in some countries age difference are key factors. 

that being said i don't condone older men having sex with minors. 

[bamnutsak]

Two in one week.

 

the investigative unit, Division 4, Immigration Bureau, arrested Mr. David Long . Stage (Devid Longstregh), 46 years old. American nationality  The accused under the arrest warrant of the Southern Bangkok Criminal Court No. 766/66, dated 22 August 2023, committed an offense of Committing an indecent act to a child under 15 years of age, regardless of whether the child consents or not. The incident occurred at a school in the Sathorn area of Bangkok.

"Pol. Lt. Gen. Pakphumphit" led a press conference on the arrest of 3 cases of foreigners causing crimes in Thailand.

 

On June 30, 2023, the victim's mother reported the matter to the investigating officer. Thung Maha Mek Police Station said that while living in the house Nanny of the victim The accused was seen using both hands to sexually assault the girl. The victim informed the nanny that Mr. David, a teacher at the school where the victim was studying, often hit him with his hands and took pictures of his genitals many times. Later, the mother found out about the incident and took the victim to be examined at the hospital. as evidence and filed a complaint with the French Embassy in Thailand and various foundations To coordinate and report the matter to the investigating officer for legal action. 

 

https://www.nationtv.tv/news/crime/378928752

[JBChiangRai]

To be accurate, the teacher is not a paedophile, nor is he a heberphile, actually he is a Ephebophile.

 

Thank god for Gerontophiles.

 

 

Edited September 4, 2023 by JBChiangRai
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[HappyExpat57]

I remember when I was 16, I was madly in love with my high school Biology teacher. In retrospect, she was not at all attractive, but the inherent power a teacher has over a student is not a thing to EVER be taken advantage of. I have 4 students who are absolutely in love with teacher, and no way in HELL will I ever be caught alone in a room with them. It's cute, it's flattering, and it's utterly wrong!

 

If this guy REALLY wanted to pursue an actual relationship then he would need to transfer to another school, negotiate with the parents, and I'd also say get his head examined.

[JBChiangRai]

6 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

If this guy REALLY wanted to pursue an actual relationship then he would need to transfer to another school, negotiate with the parents, and I'd also say get his head examined.

There is no point in having a relationship with a man under 26 years old or a woman under 24 years old.  Brains are still developing until this point and any relationship is unlikely to last.  For the same reason, the same age limits should apply to using THC as it adversely affects the developing brain.

 

Brain Maturity Extends Well Beyond Teen Years : NPR

Edited September 4, 2023 by JBChiangRai

[SuperSaiyan]

2 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

I remember when I was 16, I was madly in love with my high school Biology teacher. In retrospect, she was not at all attractive, but the inherent power a teacher has over a student is not a thing to EVER be taken advantage of. I have 4 students who are absolutely in love with teacher, and no way in HELL will I ever be caught alone in a room with them. It's cute, it's flattering, and it's utterly wrong!

 

If this guy REALLY wanted to pursue an actual relationship then he would need to transfer to another school, negotiate with the parents, and I'd also say get his head examined.

 

It's not wrong if you would ask the father for the hand of his daughter and there would be no fornication, ie. no sexual relationship outside of marriage. This would be actually utterly morally the best and should be the only acceptable way.

[BKKBike09]

The original article doesn't say he was cought in the act and that it was recorded on video. It says there were videos of their bedroom antics and that the girl's mother filed the complaint after the girl had been seeing the guy for 5 months. 

 

Videos will likely add to his troubles, courtesy of Computer Crimes Act. 

[ricklev]

You may wonder, if the age of consent is 15 and she is 16 and consented how could he have committed a crime?  The answer, as I understand it, is that there was literally no crime, UNTIL, the parents of the girl filed a complaint with the police.  

Edited September 4, 2023 by ricklev

[Preacher]

He is not charged with a sex crime. He is charged with leading a minor away from her parents, which leaves the qustion of sex and consent outside the legal proceeding. A strategy that is not uncommen in Thailand.

[JeffersLos]

Samantha Fox posed topless in English newspapers after turning 16.

 

 

The guy looks young, he did wrong and should have known better. 

 

It is also not stated that they had full sex, just sexual relations. Wrong, but consenting.

 

Being American, hopefully there won't be insane American criminal charges laid against him.

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

I am well aware of what paedophila is. It is a psychiatric term that came in to popular usage. It is defined differently by psychiatrists and in the law and popular usage.

 

Psychiatry defines it as a mental illness where there is sole sexual interest in pre-pubertal children. It is not a crime, unless the fantasies are acted upon.

 

Common popular usage in the MSM and elsewhere, defines it as sex with minors below the age of majority. Age of majority varies from country to country. In the UK it is 16, in the US it is 18 and in Thailand I believe it is 20.

 

The guy is American, it is a crime in the US for a US citizen to have sex with a minor. The crime is statutory rape and carries a seven years sentence. They are aka sex pests and have to report to the police where they are living or sign the sex offenders register. The crime is often popularly referred to as pedophilia and the convicts are referred to as pedos or pedophiles, and this includes anyone having sex with minors irrespective of whether the minor was pre-pubertal.

 

 

What he did is Ephebophilia. Not Paedophilia.

 

Not defending it, but let's use correct terminology when labeling people.

 

[KannikaP]

2 hours ago, SuperSaiyan said:

 

You should research again what pedophile means. Just a hint: It doesn't mean what you think it means.

Why don't you tell us please

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, ezzra said:

You really had to made out of stone to resist some young attractive things throwing themselves at you, i know i too, would have problems with it, against the law or not, pity though that his life now are ruined.

Very few 16 years old thai girl (or under 23 for that sake just to put a random number) is attractive to  most normal well behaved men above 35. Even it seems most here think that is normal, my best guess it is not. Considering thai girls who is 16 looks like 12 years old. 

 

Anyway, I guess his crime is because of his position and she is his student, not for being with a 16 year old, unless he was stupid enough to tape it, and also post it on the www.

 

Wait and see what this case will turn in to. 

[BritManToo]

33 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Very few 16 years old thai girl (or under 23 for that sake just to put a random number) is attractive to  most normal well behaved men above 35. Even it seems most here think that is normal, my best guess it is not. Considering thai girls who is 16 looks like 12 years old. 

Former Brit wife worked in a 6th form college back in the UK.

She said nearly all the single male teachers were dating students.

Edited September 4, 2023 by BritManToo

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Former Brit wife worked in a 6th form college back in the UK.

She said nearly all the single male teachers were dating students.

Conclusion, it is not the money or the desire to teach subjects to the students for Male teachers, it is the sex.

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, retarius said:

Common popular usage in the MSM and elsewhere, defines it as sex with minors below the age of majority. Age of majority varies from country to country. In the UK it is 16, in the US it is 18 and in Thailand I believe it is 20.

You believe wrong, age of consent in Thailand is 15.

Guy was charged with taking her from her parents without their permission, not for having sex with her.

 

At 16 he could have legally banged her as much as he wanted, as long as she didn't 'sleep over'.

Edited September 4, 2023 by BritManToo

[Celsius]

This "teacher luke" is well known and he is attention seeking nasty piece of work. Thing is if he was doing things low key no one would probably care. He looooves attention and in Thailand that is a big no when you are a foreigner doing certain things.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Celsius said:

This "teacher luke" is well known and he is attention seeking nasty piece of work. Thing is if he was doing things low key no one would probably care. He looooves attention and in Thailand that is a big no when you are a foreigner doing certain things.

Well his bird doesn't think so...............

[XJPSX]

3 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

The question is how old is the teacher.. On the picture he doesn't seems so old, so it could be a normal situation, although it is not good to have a relation with a student. But look at president Macron of France .. he married his teacher

Law is the law just to refresh your mind. She is still considered a minor and he should have known better.

[XJPSX]

21 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Former Brit wife worked in a 6th form college back in the UK.

She said nearly all the single male teachers were dating students.

No wonder the country has gone to the <deleted>e!

[Celsius]

13 minutes ago, transam said:

Well his bird doesn't think so...............

His bird?

 

She is 16 years old.

 

The funny part no one is mentioning here us that this attention seeking clown is American. He may actually get off lightly in Thailand, but when he is back in US he will receive Epstein treatment.

 

[ikke1959]

13 minutes ago, XJPSX said:

Law is the law just to refresh your mind. She is still considered a minor and he should have known better.

depends how old he is... Is he 23?? or 54???