Vietnam pilot who disregarded direct order gets Medal of Honor

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Not me, I recognized the actual hero. Perhaps Biden did too, and that is why he scurried away so

fast. Embarrassed to share the stage with a man who DIDN'T shirk his duty. 

You just can’t help yourself.

[BenStark]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You mean Joe of course.

Who else?

[gargamon]

On 9/7/2023 at 12:05 PM, Hanaguma said:

Remember, this is a war Biden (like so many men in his generation) fought very hard NOT to be a part of. 

I think you're a little confused here. The only draft dodger currently running for president is Trump. That is the standard response these days though. Accuse the left of everything they do that they should be embarrassed about. Lucky for them that their supporters aren't smart enough to see through it. Thankfully the rest of the population is. 

[BenStark]

8 minutes ago, gargamon said:

The only draft dodger currently running for president is Trump.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/16/fact-check-biden-received-multiple-draft-deferments-vietnam/5809482002/

 

"Lifeguard/Football player Joe Biden got five draft deferments for asthma during Vietnam," a post claims, alongside a photo of high-school-aged Biden.

Edited September 8, 2023 by BenStark

[ozimoron]

41 minutes ago, BenStark said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/16/fact-check-biden-received-multiple-draft-deferments-vietnam/5809482002/

 

"Lifeguard/Football player Joe Biden got five draft deferments for asthma during Vietnam," a post claims, alongside a photo of high-school-aged Biden.

Make that refused by the navy for asthma.

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Not me, I recognized the actual hero. Perhaps Biden did too, and that is why he scurried away so

fast. Embarrassed to share the stage with a man who DIDN'T shirk his duty. 

More "perhaps" nonsense? First it was "wandered off" now it's "scurried away"? How about he walked away because of the demands of his office?

And I'm still waiting for you to point out what in that video that showed that the recipient of the Medal of Honor felt humiliated.

[Tug]

8 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

WHo is the president?  

 

Wait, maybe the "border czar" will step up and come up with some answers....  or not.  Latest policy from the administration is a "remain in Texas" idea. Good luck with that.

Oh gee wizz haggie last time I looked the United States is a democracy not a dictatorship this administration is doing its best within the laws we have on the books if there is some other remedy perhaps you can share it with us?no?then perhaps it’s time for both parties to hash out a legislative fix.otherwise I will just put this down as another cheep slur at the democrats at the expense/distraction of a metal of honor recipient……sad 

[impulse]

18 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Make that refused by the navy for asthma.

You did read the part about the 5 college deferments before he went in for the medical exam that classified him "1-Y".

 

Trump only had 4 before his medical exam that classified him as "1-Y".

 

[ozimoron]

Just now, impulse said:

You did read the part about the 5 college deferments before he went in for the medical exam that classified him "1-Y".

 

Trump only had 4 before his medical exam that classified him as "1-Y".

 

Yes, only one was a refusal for asthma. Biden did nothing out of the ordinary by getting college deferments, all the rich kids did. I was responding to the misleading claim that Biden "got" a deferral due to asthma. Undoubtedly the great unwashed will try to play word games again but he did not in any way, shape or form, request a deferral due to asthma. The navy refused to accept him. Again, pretty normal for asthmatics.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Yes, only one was a refusal for asthma. Biden did nothing out of the ordinary by getting college deferments, all the rich kids did. I was responding to the misleading claim that Biden "got" a deferral due to asthma. Undoubtedly the great unwashed will try to play word games again but he did not in any way, shape or form, request a deferral due to asthma. The navy refused to accept him. Again, pretty normal for asthmatics.

Do you agree that American youth in the 1960's-70's should have joined the U.S military and  gone to Vietnam to fight and kill Vietnamese people ?

   I seemed to recall that the Left wingers opposed the war at the time 

[FruitPudding]

On 9/7/2023 at 10:08 AM, BenStark said:

Translation, the blind leading the blind.

He follows his nose 

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35 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Do you agree that American youth in the 1960's-70's should have joined the U.S military and  gone to Vietnam to fight and kill Vietnamese people ?

   I seemed to recall that the Left wingers opposed the war at the time 

Going rather far astray, aren't we?

[ozimoron]

42 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Do you agree that American youth in the 1960's-70's should have joined the U.S military and  gone to Vietnam to fight and kill Vietnamese people ?

   I seemed to recall that the Left wingers opposed the war at the time 

I did oppose the war but I registered for the draft as required by the law. They cancelled the draft before my draw.

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

More "perhaps" nonsense? First it was "wandered off" now it's "scurried away"? How about he walked away because of the demands of his office?

And I'm still waiting for you to point out what in that video that showed that the recipient of the Medal of Honor felt humiliated.

How about he walked away because he forgot the ceremonial protocol?

[placeholder]

27 minutes ago, nauseus said:

How about he walked away because he forgot the ceremonial protocol?

Anybody can read whatever they like into it. In other words, any interpretation is about as definitive as the result of a Rorschach test.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

I did oppose the war but I registered for the draft as required by the law. They cancelled the draft before my draw.

Any reason why you didn't take a moral stance refuse to go, like Mohamed  Ali did ?

   Why didn't you become a conscientious  rejecter and refuse to join the war in Vietnam ?

[Chelseafan]

On 9/7/2023 at 3:26 AM, BenStark said:

... it more looks like a senile old man who doesn't know which planet he's on...

Leave Biden alone...

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Any reason why you didn't take a moral stance refuse to go, like Mohamed  Ali did ?

   Why didn't you become a conscientious  rejecter and refuse to join the war in Vietnam ?

No. Had I been drafted I would have gone despite my opposition to the war. It was called national service for a reason.

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

No. Had I been drafted I would have gone despite my opposition to the war. It was called national service for a reason.

You would have had to pass your bone spur test first , failing that would have made you ineligible to go 

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

Anybody can read whatever they like into it. In other words, any interpretation is about as definitive as the result of a Rorschach test.

Compared to similar ceremonies then protocol was breached. No interpretation required.

 

Your defenses of Biden are just like the big guy himself - weak and wobbly.

[Tug]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Compared to similar ceremonies then protocol was breached. No interpretation required.

 

Your defenses of Biden are just like the big guy himself - weak and wobbly.

Ya might ask putin if he agrees with that little slander or ask nato or president zelensky hummm?

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, gargamon said:

I think you're a little confused here. The only draft dodger currently running for president is Trump.

Google tells me

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/16/fact-check-biden-received-multiple-draft-deferments-vietnam/5809482002/

Fact check: Biden, like Trump, received multiple draft deferments from Vietnam

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

Leave Biden alone...

If Trump is fair game on here then Joe is too.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Any reason why you didn't take a moral stance refuse to go, like Mohamed  Ali did ?

   Why didn't you become a conscientious  rejecter and refuse to join the war in Vietnam ?

Did you miss the part where he wasn't required to go?

Anyway, his survival chances would have been way higher with the Aussies than with the US forces there.

[BenStark]

7 hours ago, placeholder said:

Anybody can read whatever they like into it. In other words, any interpretation is about as definitive as the result of a Rorschach test.

I think, you hopelessly try to defend him because, you got nothing

[gargamon]

27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Google tells me

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/16/fact-check-biden-received-multiple-draft-deferments-vietnam/5809482002/

Fact check: Biden, like Trump, received multiple draft deferments from Vietnam

Asthma verified in Biden's case. Fake bone spurs for Trump. You think these are equal? 

[Hanaguma]

47 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Asthma verified in Biden's case. Fake bone spurs for Trump. You think these are equal? 

Ah yes. Joe the asthmatic lifeguard and star athlete.  Asthma only detected years later at a very convenient moment. After running out of student deferments. 

 

Like I said originally,  lots of young men did the same, to their everlasting shame. Trump, Clinton, Cheney among them . It in no way excuses or justifies Biden from doing the same thing. 

 

I was never a fan of John Kerry, but at least he served when called. 

[nauseus]

7 hours ago, Tug said:

Ya might ask putin if he agrees with that little slander or ask nato or president zelensky hummm?

I tried but I just can't decrypt this. Help me out.

[Nick Carter icp]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Did you miss the part where he wasn't required to go?

 

I didn't miss that part , no 

[Chelseafan]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If Trump is fair game on here then Joe is too.

I think you missed the point. The OP was talking about the war veteran but it could of equally applied to Biden ????