Popular Post bamnutsak Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2023 This whole episode, and this series runs all the way back to 2001 when Thaksin was acquitted in an 8-7 decision. The powers that be caved to his election mandate, and immediately started making plans to oust him. Now they make a mockery of the 2006 Coup, and original charges/convictions (in absence), by simply erasing them. Barely a decade ago amnesty for Thaksin caused the right-wing ultra nationalists to collectively lose their minds. Now it's like "what's the big deal". 4 hours ago, webfact said: Piyabutr Saengkanokkul and now Progressive Movement leader this week called on the newly sworn-in government to look at a wider amnesty for all political prisoners as part of an extended national reconciliation process. There are a lot of political prisoners, and asking that they be treated like Thaksin has got to be embarrassing for those in power. This is exactly why people want reforms. The entire Thai social contract is rotten to the core with corruption. 4 4 4
Thailand Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Bim Smith said: I didn't see this coming at all. Just kidding. As for amnesty I see another coup. I see pigeons everywhere. Coup coup they shout. No chance of a coup this deal with Thaksin was done at the highest level to keep MFP out of the picture which it has done. Everyone knew he would serve a very short time if any at all. The average Thai could not care less and Thaksin still has a huge fanbase. 1 2
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, daejung said: Why don't you complain about coup maker Prayut who is free ? Because Prayut did a good job to get rid of Thaksin/Yingluck at that time. People in Bangkok were happy when the coups happened to get rid of the Shinawatras. I was here, I gave soft drinks to the soldiers on the streets. But go ahead, you can complain about him. 2 6
Cadan Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 There is a law and there is a law. Money speaks 2
stoner Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 as usual the avengers are no where to be found in this thread. 1
OneMoreFarang Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, thaipo7 said: The next big thing to come will be with "BOSS" the heir grandson of Red Bull founder. It will soon be 10 years since he killed the policeman at a red light in Bangkok. Haven't been able to find this guy for the past 9 years or so. I don't know much about the guy. I know he and his family are rich and he likes the luxury life. I am sure he can live that luxury life in many places on this planet. Thaksin loves when the crowd kisses his feet. He loves it when the masses behave like he is the messiah. And that is something he only gets in Thailand. I am sure Thaksin missed Thailand every day. With the boss guy, I don't know if he cares at all. 1
Popular Post nobodysfriend Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2023 I see the story of Thaksin's return being followed and commented by some of the big news channels like CNN & BBC an Aljazeera ... Well , their headlines to his liberation should be like : Thailand gave proof to the world that corruption is omnipresent and normal for the wealthy ... Convicted Thaksin manages to escape prison by corruption ... Thailand , the country where the rich and famous stand above Justice ... Ukraine is in the process of eliminating corruption in their country , as that is required for a candidate of membership to the EU ... The political system in Thailand is still of 3rd world standard , even if the politicians here try to paint a different picture , all these projects planned by the gov may look shiny and good , but inside it is rotten to the core . It will not be easy to change a system that , traditionally , includes the acceptance of corruption by the general population since centuries . But they call this a democracy , and , in a democracy , the results of the election are to be respected . Let's hope for the next election , and that the Thai electorate does not forget who betrayed them ... the people who are members of the new government . Here , in Thailand , all this is just a farce , they just pretend that they have a democracy here , in reality is it just a corrupt autocracy that they try to disguise as a democracy . As it is shown to the world by now . 1 1 3 1
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, daveAustin said: Yes indeed, the usual moaning suspects usually overlook the real issue. Which part is not real about a criminal going to jail for his crimes? There is no doubt that Thaksin did all those crimes. Why should he be out of jail? Because he is a politician and that makes his crimes political crimes? BS! 1 2 2 2
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said: The political system in Thailand is still of 3rd world standard And then there is this so called first world country. They think they are the leader of the world. And about half of their population wants more of the orange maniac. So much about "3rd world"... 1 3
Popular Post Wiggy Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, thaipo7 said: The next big thing to come will be with "BOSS" the heir grandson of Red Bull founder. It will soon be 10 years since he killed the policeman at a red light in Bangkok. Haven't been able to find this guy for the past 9 years or so. They know where he is, but he’s another one of the untouchables due to his wealth. It wasn’t at a red light; he hit the policeman from behind whilst allegedly high on drugs and speeding. 3 1
Reigntax Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: It's not really a surprise that the criminal won't spend too much time in jail. If he wouldn't have a deal, he wouldn't have returned to Thailand. I think the big question for the future is if Thaksin will be quiet and play with his grandchildren or if he will be even more active in politics than he was already when he was officially not involved. And will PT include him on stage as the all-knowing leader? Thaksin's downfall was his big mouth together with his criminal behavior. Will he do more of the same? Will he continue to behave like he is above the law? If yes, then another crisis for Thailand won't be far. I hope the best, but I would be very surprised if he would just shut up. Yes there are a few people who just can’t shut up with the same old rhetoric. 1 1
herfiehandbag Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Bim Smith said: I didn't see this coming at all. Just kidding. As for amnesty I see another coup. I see pigeons everywhere. Coup coup they shout. If he is given a Royal pardon as part of a Royally sponsored amnesty process, then a coup is an unlikely response! 1
Popular Post animatic Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2023 4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: It's not really a surprise that the criminal won't spend too much time in jail. If he wouldn't have a deal, he wouldn't have returned to Thailand. I think the big question for the future is if Thaksin will be quiet and play with his grandchildren or if he will be even more active in politics than he was already when he was officially not involved. And will PT include him on stage as the all-knowing leader? Thaksin's downfall was his big mouth together with his criminal behavior. Will he do more of the same? Will he continue to behave like he is above the law? If yes, then another crisis for Thailand won't be far. I hope the best, but I would be very surprised if he would just shut up. He’s a “grand-mal narcissist” like trump, he can’t help himself to play the big man on campus and leader of all lesser beings. Playing with the grad children will be for photo ops. 4 2 1
koolkarl Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 How much did he pay and to whom? And again the Thai people are sleeping. If you steal a candy bar from 7-11, you will likely get 5 years hard time. 1 1
fondue zoo Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 3 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said: Bravo! Whoever planned and directed this political farce should get an Oscar! More like the Razzie, the dialog is stilted, too much camera flare, reaction shots are way too long, plot holes abound and in the end they go with a Deus Ex Machina to fix everything. Rotten Durian score: 50 1
Popular Post Zack61 Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2023 4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Will he continue to behave like he is above the law? The rich and well connected are not subject to the laws of the land so your question is moot. 3
Zack61 Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, koolkarl said: If you steal a candy bar from 7-11, you will likely get 5 years hard time. And then some but only if you’re a commoner. 1
fondue zoo Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, koolkarl said: And again the Thai people are sleeping. It may not be fair to say they are sleeping, they are aware of what is/has happened. But they also know what will happen if they step up and attempt to do what really needs to be done. They've been given some very visual examples of how that pans out in past encounters. 1
bignok Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: It's not really a surprise that the criminal won't spend too much time in jail. If he wouldn't have a deal, he wouldn't have returned to Thailand. I think the big question for the future is if Thaksin will be quiet and play with his grandchildren or if he will be even more active in politics than he was already when he was officially not involved. And will PT include him on stage as the all-knowing leader? Thaksin's downfall was his big mouth together with his criminal behavior. Will he do more of the same? Will he continue to behave like he is above the law? If yes, then another crisis for Thailand won't be far. I hope the best, but I would be very surprised if he would just shut up. None of it affects your life. 1 1 1
bignok Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zack61 said: And then some but only if you’re a commoner. In which country do you get 5 years jail for chocolate? England gave 10 years jail for bread and milk in the past.
Popular Post kennw Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, kiwikeith said: It's in the pipeline, after Yingluck gets her pardon. I think Thaksin will stay out of the limelight, but will be director incognito 5555 How many times has he said he has washed his hands completely. The man cant lie straight in bed. 3 1
bignok Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, kevin612 said: The world is for the rich, no doubt. Like farangs on holiday. Average farang has a better life than Taksin. 1 2 1
Tom H Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: It's not really a surprise that the criminal won't spend too much time in jail. If he wouldn't have a deal, he wouldn't have returned to Thailand. I think the big question for the future is if Thaksin will be quiet and play with his grandchildren or if he will be even more active in politics than he was already when he was officially not involved. And will PT include him on stage as the all-knowing leader? Thaksin's downfall was his big mouth together with his criminal behavior. Will he do more of the same? Will he continue to behave like he is above the law? If yes, then another crisis for Thailand won't be far. I hope the best, but I would be very surprised if he would just shut up. Listen to Onemorefarang, he has a high reputation with over 53,000 points by over 20,000 postings. But: We finally have no turmoil on streets anymore between yellow and red. This seems to be over. The new PM wears red socks and a yellow tie. Peace. ???????? 3 2
Popular Post Marco51 Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2023 5 hours ago, webfact said: Former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra may be released from prison by either October 13th or December 5th as his incarceration becomes a lightning rod for political attacks on the new government of Srettha Thavisin. Even before this, the former premier, pardoned by the Thai King on August 31st, may be eligible to be sent home. Last week, Deputy Director of the Corrections Department Narong Juisei refused to answer pointed questioning by reporters on Mr Thaksin’s case. Former Future Forward Party Secretary-General Piyabutr Saengkanokkul and now Progressive Movement leader this week called on the newly sworn-in government to look at a wider amnesty for all political prisoners as part of an extended national reconciliation process. There is mounting speculation that former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra may be released from prison in the coming weeks possibly as early as October 13th. It comes as his seemingly preferential treatment as a prison inmate threatens to draw further political attention with a key leader of the Progressive Movement, this week, calling for an amnesty in the kingdom for all prisoners serving sentences linked with political activities. There is heightened speculation that former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who was granted a pardon and commutation of his sentence by His Majesty King Maha Vajiralongkorn on Thursday, August 31st, reducing his prison term from eight years to one year, may be released from prison as soon as October 13th or December 5th. by Joseph O' Connor Full story: https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/09/08/thaksin-may-be-released-on-october-13th/ -- Thai Examiner 2023-09-09 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe As expected. This is not uniquely Thai ......steal 100 $ and get a long jailterm, steal 100 million and get a post in government finance . Money is just printed paper and even that is out of date, it is now just a button push on a computer and only keeps value as long as we all believe in it. 2 1
mikebell Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 6 hours ago, webfact said: his incarceration becomes a lightning rod for political attacks on the new government of Srettha Thavisin. Won't releasing Thaksin exacerbate the frequency of these attacks? 1
Frankie baby Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 It comes as his seemingly preferential treatment as a prison inmate I think a few hours at the detention centre doesn't qualify him as an inmate. He reminds me of the outlaw Frank James (James-Younger gang ) who never served a day behind bars for the conviction of a life of crime, although he did time awaiting trial.
TigerandDog Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 Did anyone notice that both dates ( Oct 13 and Dec 5 ) are public holidays (The Great Memorial Day & Father's Day)?
bignok Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, Frankie baby said: It comes as his seemingly preferential treatment as a prison inmate I think a few hours at the detention centre doesn't qualify him as an inmate. He reminds me of the outlaw Frank James (James-Younger gang ) who never served a day behind bars for the conviction of a life of crime, although he did time awaiting trial. What do they have in common? 1
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