Is Thailand’s education system safe in the hands of Bhumjaithai Party?

[webfact]

With a retired policeman at the helm of the Education Ministry, teachers and educators can only hope that Thailand’s education sector does not decline further under the new government.

 

“I don’t have any expectations,” Tanawat Suwannapan of Kru Kor Sorn (Teachers Ask to Teach) said about the appointment of Pol General Permpoon Chidchob as the new education minister.

“I just hope he won’t add burdens to Thailand’s education.”

 

Permpoon’s background

 

Brother to Bhumjaithai Party patriarch Newin Chidchob and also former transport minister Saksayam Chidchob, Permpoon graduated from Ramkhamhaeng University’s Faculty of Law.

 

He joined the police force in 1984 and spent 37 years in the ranks before retiring at the age of 60 in 2021. In other words, the new education minister’s career experience is limited to police work.

 

By Thai PBS World’s General Desk

Top picture: Pol Gen Permpool Chidchob

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/is-thailands-education-system-safe-in-the-hands-of-bhumjaithai-party/

 

-- Thai PBS 2023-09-09

 

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[2baht]

 

9 minutes ago, webfact said:

“I don’t have any expectations,”

The education dept has one of the largest budgets and the end result is atrocious!

[fondue zoo]

 

The last two education ministers look to have had no previous connection to the education sector either.

[bamnutsak]

How much worse could it get?

 

 

[JoePai]

How much did that posting cost him !

[Kenny202]

Having two school aged kids and experiencing the Thai govt education system first hand, I can't imagine it could get worse. Apart from the 1950s curriculum....I would say the most corrupt fiefdom of all. Teachers generally uncaring and arrogant. Unmanned crossings outside primary schools...impossible to walk on sidewalks anywhere near schools due to people selling junk food candy and toys, who I imagine are kicking up rent to someone. Teachers themselves sometimes have their own little set ups in the classroom selling kids crap. Newly graduated teachers need to pay a huge "tuition" fee to pass the govt teachers exam and work in a govt school. And like someone said...look at the end result. It is beyond belief

Edited September 9, 2023 by Kenny202

[bamnutsak]

28 minutes ago, JoePai said:

How much did that posting cost him !

Check his name. Part of the Chidchob clan. They don't have to pay for anything.

 

24 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

look at the end result

The end result is exactly what the powers that be want. An uneducated populace who will not ask questions.

[2baht]

8 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Check his name. Part of the Chidchob clan. They don't have to pay for anything.

 

The end result is exactly what the powers that be want. An uneducated populace who will not ask questions.

That's why a population in excess of 60 million are controlled by a handful of rich despots!

[Olav Seglem]

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

How much worse could it get?

 

 

You stole my words :-)

Maybe be a turn to the better.

Demand results frim the teachers and administration of each school, not just sitting make plans. And also, if no results it has a economic consequence.

[bamnutsak]

It should also be noted that the new Education Minister was just this week implicated, with fourteen others, in the Boss/Red Bull heir hit and run cover up.

 

 

 

 

[Jumbo1968]

50 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

It should also be noted that the new Education Minister was just this week implicated, with fourteen others, in the Boss/Red Bull heir hit and run cover up.

 

 

Therefore he shouldn’t be in the job for long then ?

 

 

[Maejo Man]

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

It should also be noted that the new Education Minister was just this week implicated, with fourteen others, in the Boss/Red Bull heir hit and run cover up.

 

 

 

 

The Chidchob family strike again. To amplify.....Newly appointed education minister and former assistant national police chief Permpoon Chidchob, who officially sanctioned Nate’s decision in June 2020, was also named in the NACC’s Red Bull heir report. Niwatchai described Permpoon’s endorsement as a disciplinary violation, albeit not a grave one.

[spidermike007]

No. The only party that had any willingness to offer meaningful education reform was the one the election was stolen from. The current group stands for anti-reform and little progress. They have declared as much. 

[Jumbo1968]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

No. The only party that had any willingness to offer meaningful education reform was the one the election was stolen from. The current group stands for anti-reform and little progress. They have declared as much. 

I am very surprised supporters of The Move Forward Party do not appear to be bothered about the goings on in Parliament ?

[herfiehandbag]

He can (and will) sit there fat and happy, smugly relishing the power and status his massive budget gives him. But essentially the mediocre (at best) and old fashioned education system is becoming increasingly irrelevant.

 

The brighter of the young generation have educated themselves in political and social terms using their social media channels, which ignore (apart from poking fun at) their "elders and betters".

 

That is what is behind the expansion of the progressive movement (Future Forward/Move Forward). It is a "self education" which is at times naive, but it is one which is here to stay. The dinosaurs, however smug, fat and happy, and well funded cannot control it, and have left it far too late (through a combination of complacency and ignorance) to gain control of it. 

 

Smug, fat and happy, and an expensive irrelevance.

[ikke1959]

My advice is throw everything away and start from scratch.. First every students is obliged to go to the nearest school, temple school or government school is the same.. Not more than 25/30 students in a classroom. No more mixed classes. Print new modern lesson books, teachers who work in no so well known schools, must be spread around in the province so every school has enough teachers for each class. Working hours for teacher should be normalized it means from 7.30 to 17.00 in school and no special classes anymore. If a student needs help it must be done between 15.30 and 17.00. Students have a half day off every week and no classes or activities in the weekends. Kids must play and not in school 7 days a week. Stop with all activities as Mothers Day, Wai Kru, scouting, etc etc... Scouting can be done on voluntarily base on Saturday. School start at 1 May and the semester ends on 15 October and semester 2 starts on 1 November and ends on 15 March. 6 weeks holidays for the kids is enough in summer and 2 weeks as term break. and 1 week for the Christmas/New Years holiday. Just a few things to start with....As I would do after 20 years teaching in several Thai schools 

[ThaiFelix]

So long as they can salute, bow and polish shoes they will get along just fine.

[matta]

There are people who don't know what they are doing but completely believe in it

[spidermike007]

39 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I am very surprised supporters of The Move Forward Party do not appear to be bothered about the goings on in Parliament ?

I am shocked too. Under the circumstances, and after the covid fiasco, and 9 long years of failed army leadership, I would have expected millions to be out in the streets. 

 

Maybe they have simply become apathetic, utterly complacent and compliant? Regardless, it is not a good sign. 

[klauskunkel]

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Is Thailand’s education system safe in the hands of Bhumjaithai Party?

Oh yes, they won't do anything to it that hasn't been done before...

[fondue zoo]

4 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

near schools due to people selling junk food candy and toys, who I imagine are kicking up rent to someone.

I can confirm this for our school, but not really surprising. Helping kids get fat with a dash of diabetes since 2000.

[RichardColeman]

Unless he gets to grips with the sheer amount of days off the kids have due to 'national holidays' , 'monk days' , 'teacher training' etc, the kids will continue to grow up with half the brains of other kids in the world. 

[fondue zoo]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

I am shocked too. Under the circumstances, and after the covid fiasco, and 9 long years of failed army leadership, I would have expected millions to be out in the streets. 

 

Maybe they have simply become apathetic, utterly complacent and compliant? Regardless, it is not a good sign. 

We have to keep in mind that mothers are averse to their kids being shot.

My younger relatives are ready for action, mums of those relatives are telling them all to calm down.

 

 

[Jumbo1968]

1 hour ago, fondue zoo said:

I can confirm this for our school, but not really surprising. Helping kids get fat with a dash of diabetes since 2000.

I asked my son what he eats for school dinner, rice and chicken etc usually, I asked no fruit no, sweets from the in school shop he said.

Obviously the school are not concerned about the kids diet,

[Jumbo1968]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Unless he gets to grips with the sheer amount of days off the kids have due to 'national holidays' , 'monk days' , 'teacher training' etc, the kids will continue to grow up with half the brains of other kids in the world. 

Because the government is made up of old f**** who were brought up in old fashioned system where only the well off could get a decent education for their kids they have no idea about how the kids should be educated in the modern society.

To start with kids education should be free if they really mean business, how many of the girls working in the bar industry had an education, I think next to none of them.

[djayz]

How much worse could it get under the new guys? 

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, fondue zoo said:

We have to keep in mind that mothers are averse to their kids being shot.

My younger relatives are ready for action, mums of those relatives are telling them all to calm down.

 

 

With the loss of repute or anything positive related to the army, they wouldn't dare shoot a protestor. That might be enough to ignite some real fury. 

 

It would end up being the other way around. Mothers would be telling their sons, you shoot one single Thai, on behalf of the army, and you are never welcome back home again. 

 

This is not Burma, and the soldiers here do not face the desperation they do next door. The generals know the public's tolerance of their madness is limited. 

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, fondue zoo said:

We have to keep in mind that mothers are averse to their kids being shot.

My younger relatives are ready for action, mums of those relatives are telling them all to calm down.

 

 

With the loss of repute or anything positive related to the army, they wouldn't dare shoot a protestor. That might be enough to ignite some real fury. 

 

It would end up being the other way around. Mothers would be telling their sons, you shoot one single Thai, on behalf of the army, and you are never welcome back home again. 

 

This is not Burma, and the soldiers here do not face the desperation they do next door. The generals know the public's tolerance of their madness is limited. 

 

Having said that, I do think people, and especially the youth, are scared of arrest and bring prosecuted on bogus, immoral, trumped up charges. Such as we have seen recently.

Edited September 9, 2023 by spidermike007

[Jelli]

It can't get much worse. Well, actually it can...

[Jelli]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

they wouldn't dare shoot a protestor.

Who's gonna tell him?