14 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

I was saying "you" (plural) referring to the LBGT group because you were happy the last time when I said "you people" 

 

Was I? I doubt that.

3 minutes ago, bignok said:

They are gay, just a different kind of gay. Like jazz and blues. Still music. I watched a doco on it. The guys who hire ladyboys often enjoy being a bottom. If J thinks thats straight well he is kidding. Its gay. Just a different gay. Gays are never the same. Straights are never the same. J doesnt speak for all gay guys.

Exactly, and even the guys who aren't bottom, I am sure one of the attractions is the schlong they have......like, they aren't in it for the vagina.

 

Of course, they are gay.

6 minutes ago, bignok said:

They are gay, just a different kind of gay. Like jazz and blues. Still music. I watched a doco on it. The guys who hire ladyboys often enjoy being a bottom. If J thinks thats straight well he is kidding. Its gay. Just a different gay. Gays are never the same. Straights are never the same. J doesnt speak for all gay guys.

So a straight guy that enjoys a naughty finger is gay then, is he?

2 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

Exactly, and even the guys who aren't bottom, I am sure one of the attractions is the schlong they have......like, they aren't in it for the vagina.

 

Of course, they are gay.

Yes the ladyboys in the doco were pre op. They said the guys wanted schlong not a fake vagina. They just preferred a female type face with a schlong as opposed to a male face.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So a straight guy that enjoys a naughty finger is gay then, is he?

Penis isnt finger.

4 minutes ago, bignok said:

Yes the ladyboys in the doco were pre op. They said the guys wanted schlong not a fake vagina. They just preferred a female type face with a schlong as opposed to a male face.

Because they're straight.

4 minutes ago, bignok said:

Penis isnt finger.

Who knew?

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Because they're straight.

They are gay, they like penis.

15 minutes ago, bignok said:

They are gay, just a different kind of gay. Like jazz and blues. Still music. I watched a doco on it. The guys who hire ladyboys often enjoy being a bottom. If J thinks thats straight well he is kidding. Its gay. Just a different gay. Gays are never the same. Straights are never the same. J doesnt speak for all gay guys.

Yeah and you don’t speak for all the mostly straight guys who are attracted to trans women/LBs.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah and you don’t speak for all the mostly straight guys who are attracted to trans women/LBs.

They are gay not straight. Man who likes vaginas is straight. They don't. 

Just now, Jingthing said:

I'm not attracted to trans women / ladyboys, etc. in the slightest, dude.

Because I'm 100 percent gay.

I do give a second look to cute butch lesbians though.

I realize these concepts are too sophisticated for many people though.

Another case of willful ignorance.

 

Well good on ya. So I can't understand why you are sticking up for men who are in denial of their own sexuality.  

2 minutes ago, paulikens said:

Well good on ya. So I can't understand why you are sticking up for men who are in denial of their own sexuality.  

Not about sticking up.

Because it's the truth.

A straight guy attracted to trans women is still straight. Fact.

7 minutes ago, bignok said:

They are gay not straight. Man who likes vaginas is straight. They don't. 

Sexual orientation is about more than genitals. 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Sexual orientation is about more than genitals. 

If I have sex with a goat dressed as a woman is it still not a goat?

 

 

Just now, Jingthing said:

Not about sticking up.

Because it's the truth.

A straight guy attracted to trans women is still straight. Fact.

Oh! now i see what it is... you want to be part of some sort of  an exclusive group.  you're gay but some kind of homosexual snob.   because the bottom line is men who like men are gay.  Otherwise you can't say you're gay because if men who like men isn't gay then neither are you.  There is no such thing according to your definition.  

47 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Was I? I doubt that.

Yeah, you exclaimed, "You people?"

 

Then you called me a bigot and vaguely mentioned rhetoric.

30 minutes ago, paulikens said:

Oh! now i see what it is... you want to be part of some sort of  an exclusive group.  you're gay but some kind of homosexual snob.   because the bottom line is men who like men are gay.  Otherwise you can't say you're gay because if men who like men isn't gay then neither are you.  There is no such thing according to your definition.  

Word salad.

11 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

Yeah, you exclaimed, "You people?"

 

Then you called me a bigot and vaguely mentioned rhetoric.

Stop playing stupid lying games.

 

37 minutes ago, bignok said:

If I have sex with a goat dressed as a woman is it still not a goat?

 

 

Please use a condom.

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Please use a condom.

Have you tried one already?

34 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Stop playing stupid lying games.

 

Just look back at our comments in this thread. It literally happened today. ????

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Not man. Transgender woman. 

The problem seems to be that there is no conclusive definition for transgender woman or transwoman. The term appears to be variously applied to

 

1. a man who just dresses in women's clothes, and

 

2. a man who  emotionally identifies as a woman und undergoes hormonal treatment and some surgery to resemble a woman, and

 

3. a man who in addition to hormone treatment has fully completed gender-reassignment surgery, including the genitals. 

 

Sometimes, I wonder if there are separate definitions for the various types or stages of transgendering, but this would probably be stuff for a separate topic.

54 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

Just look back at our comments in this thread. It literally happened today. ????

No you twisted it.

48 minutes ago, Puccini said:

The problem seems to be that there is no conclusive definition for transgender woman or transwoman. The term appears to be variously applied to

 

1. a man who just dresses in women's clothes, and

 

2. a man who  emotionally identifies as a woman und undergoes hormonal treatment and some surgery to resemble a woman, and

 

3. a man who in addition to hormone treatment has fully completed gender-reassignment surgery, including the genitals. 

 

Sometimes, I wonder if there are separate definitions for the various types or stages of transgendering, but this would probably be stuff for a separate topic.

No! Just putting on a dress fits no definition of transgender. Stop lying. 

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No! Just putting on a dress fits no definition of transgender. Stop lying. 

but it fits a definition of trans-  ... transvestite.

1 minute ago, tgw said:

but it fits a definition of trans-  ... transvestite.

Yes. Not the same at all.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Yes. Not the same at all.

but included in LGBTQ+

 

Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT

 

Quote

Transgender inclusion

The term trans* has been adopted by some groups as a more inclusive alternative to "transgender", where trans (without the asterisk) has been used to describe trans men and trans women, while trans* covers all non-cisgender (genderqueer) identities, including transgender, transsexual, transvestite, genderqueer, genderfluid, non-binary, gender<deleted>, genderless, agender, non-gendered, third gender, two-spirit, bigender, and trans man and trans woman.^[67][68] Likewise, the term transsexual commonly falls under the umbrella term transgender, but some transsexual people object to this.^[3]

there is no escaping the logic.

 

21 minutes ago, tgw said:

but included in LGBTQ+

 

Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT

 

there is no escaping the logic.

 

Transvestite does not indicate gender identity. Sorry if this is too complicated for some of you.

14 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Where does this prim suggestion of someone "mounting" someone else come from? Sounds like bible-speak to me.

Barnyard speak.

On 9/12/2023 at 9:28 PM, SoilSpoil said:

Who cares what is natural or unnatural? It's his life, so who are you to judge?  

 

And no I am not 'one of these woke folks' , neither confused, and certainly not more special than you are. I try to respect people for who they are, not for who they love. Wake up man, it's 2023 not the Middle Ages. 

It's ok, it's just a boomer, their kind will be dead soon ????????