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23 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

do you think Poland should have negotiated with Hitler before Germany invaded?

 

Just like when Chamberlain negotiated with Hitler in Munich, only to see Hitler quickly attack another country, appeasement by Ukraine would have led to further attacks by Putin.

 

Appeasement doesn't work again madmen. You could ask Prigozhen, except Putin killed him.

 

A lot of opinions in there dressed up as facts, without any links for proof.

Negotiations are always preferable to death and destruction.

 

BTW, I don't think Poland had an opportunity to negotiate anything.

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31 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A lot of opinions in there dressed up as facts, without any links for proof.

Negotiations are always preferable to death and destruction.

 

BTW, I don't think Poland had an opportunity to negotiate anything.

Why didn't Putin negotiate with Ukraine when Zelensky said Ukraine would not join Nato if this led to a peace deal? This being 6 weeks into the illegal invasion.

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15 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I do think that the Western money being given to Ukraine could be better spent at home, rather than giving the money to Ukraine and its a squabble between Russia and Ukraine and I don't think that Putin is going to move on to other Countries after Ukraine 

Ah well you don't think putin if no pushback from the West will move on to other countries that will be a great comfort to neighbouring countries you should have said earlier 

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16 hours ago, Dave0206 said:

I dare say all the Republicans who want to stop all aid to everywhere outside of America will have no problem stopping aid to isreal? After all what does it matter what happens outside of the USA?

IMO that can't happen fast enough. Sadly, that day will not happen any time soon.

The world of politics is indeed a bizarre one. Which IMO is probably why sane people don't go into it, or if they are sane when they go into it they change quite fast if they want to stay in it.

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16 hours ago, Dave0206 said:

Ah well you don't think putin if no pushback from the West will move on to other countries that will be a great comfort to neighbouring countries you should have said earlier 

The chances of him invading a NATO country would be infinitesimal IMO, and as for the rest, I don't lose any sleep worrying about them.

I grew up while the Soviet Union existed and the west survived and prospered.

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20 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A lot of opinions in there dressed up as facts, without any links for proof.

Negotiations are always preferable to death and destruction.

 

BTW, I don't think Poland had an opportunity to negotiate anything.

It's pointless to negotiate with a Hitler or a Putin.

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The chances of him invading a NATO country would be infinitesimal IMO, and as for the rest, I don't lose any sleep worrying about them.

I grew up while the Soviet Union existed and the west survived and prospered.

The USSR, in its later years, craved stability. Except for that Afghanistan mistake. 

 

Everyone gets an Afghanistan mistake.

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8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The chances of him invading a NATO country would be infinitesimal IMO, and as for the rest, I don't lose any sleep worrying about them.

I grew up while the Soviet Union existed and the west survived and prospered.

As far as your age re soviet Union era I doubt we have many youngsters on this platform so it applies to virtually all of us .regards neighbouring countries bordering Russia Finland comes to mind who were not in nato there may be others I for 1 do not agree we should not care who Russia wants to invade perhaps if you was born in different part of the world you would think differently. After conflict started most of realised how much Europe depended on Russia for energy then how much we needed Ukraine for food grains and cooking oil give all this power to Putin I'm sure he would not abuse all this power he had now got?

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12 hours ago, Dave0206 said:

As far as your age re soviet Union era I doubt we have many youngsters on this platform so it applies to virtually all of us .regards neighbouring countries bordering Russia Finland comes to mind who were not in nato there may be others I for 1 do not agree we should not care who Russia wants to invade perhaps if you was born in different part of the world you would think differently. After conflict started most of realised how much Europe depended on Russia for energy then how much we needed Ukraine for food grains and cooking oil give all this power to Putin I'm sure he would not abuse all this power he had now got?

Is Europe the only place in the world that I should care about? How about Burma, how about Tibet, how about certain areas in China, North Korea etc etc etc. The list of countries in peril is endless, yet I'm supposed to be concerned about European countries further away than Burma?

I can't care about every country in strife, so I care about the ones that affect me, and eastern European countries are for those living in that part of the world, not me.

 

Europe has been fighting since humans lived there, so this is just another in an endless battle.

What I am concerned about is that NATO pushes too hard and it turns into WW3 which certainly would affect me.

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7 hours ago, Dave0206 said:

Yes you must applaud his consistency with voting against aid for any state requiring help after any disaster saying they should have put money aside for such things ah well that was until his state needed help you got to love this hawk. Remind us all again how he voted with donny tax cuts for the rich ? I'm sure it was supposed to bring in extra not balloon the deficit. How did it work out ? 

Sounds reasonable that states should plan for their own disasters.

I'm pretty sure that he wasn't the only one that voted like that on the tax thing, so why pick on him specifically. Is he a socialist? If not then so what?

Next.

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9 hours ago, impulse said:

2014 would have been a good time to start negotiating security assurances for ethnic Russians living in the 4 Oblasts.


But since you can't turn the clock back, tomorrow at dawn would be the best time to start negotiating an end to the current conflict.

 

It's just a matter of time before they have to negotiate, so sooner would be better than later. All the fatherless children and widows of the future would support an end to it.

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