ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 11/24/2023 at 5:50 AM, Morch said:

 

How so? The Palestinians have legitimate grievances vs. Israel.

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   I was referring to the people who sympathise with the Palestinians because of the current war in Gaza .

   Allies bombed Germany in retaliation for their attacks on the Allies , in the same way that Israel is bombing Gaza because of their attack on Israel 

[Morch]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:34 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I was referring to the people who sympathise with the Palestinians because of the current war in Gaza .

   Allies bombed Germany in retaliation for their attacks on the Allies , in the same way that Israel is bombing Gaza because of their attack on Israel 

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I got what you posted, and your current reply doesn't answer my question - how is it same-same?

[Wobblybob]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:36 AM, Thorgal said:

 

Why always bringing in nazi, SS or any WW2 related topics into Israeli topics?

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You don't see the similarities between the 1930s and now, strange?

[Neeranam]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:19 AM, MrMojoRisin said:

The dead kid tally is already over 6,000, how high would you like to see it go in order to “smash Hamas?”

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People all around the world are shouting Genocide, why on Earth are the power to be allowing it? Oh wait a minute, the US support this annihilation.  Shame on you USA. 

[Neeranam]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:36 AM, Thorgal said:

 

Why always bringing in nazi, SS or any WW2 related topics into Israeli topics?

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Suspect.

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:21 AM, MrMojoRisin said:

Count the people in the streets my friend, count the people in the streets.

 

The tired old tactic of dismissing any information source that doesn’t kowtow to Israel is puerile.

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   1 Million people marched against Israel in the U.K

66 Million people in the UK DIDNT march against Israel .

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:39 AM, Morch said:

 

I got what you posted, and your current reply doesn't answer my question - how is it same-same?

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   Because they both sympathise with a Country (no need to point it out) getting bombed without taking into account the reasons why they are getting bombed 

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:43 AM, Neeranam said:

Suspect.

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  I am laughing at your attempts to be clever . literally sitting here laughing 

 

[Wobblybob]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:41 AM, Neeranam said:

People all around the world are shouting Genocide, why on Earth are the power to be allowing it? Oh wait a minute, the US support this annihilation.  Shame on you USA. 

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There's only one side admitted it and that would be Hamas right, so take your fairy stories elsewhere.

[Paul Catton]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:43 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   1 Million people marched against Israel in the U.K

66 Million people in the UK DIDNT march against Israel .

 

 

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66 million have never get off there arses to support anything in unity, except for lining the streets of London for the passing of Her Majesty, Elizabeth the Second. 1/66 is an astounding participation.

 

[Morch]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:47 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Because they both sympathise with a Country (no need to point it out) getting bombed without taking into account the reasons why they are getting bombed 

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So no real answer, then. Thanks.

[Morch]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:53 AM, Paul Catton said:

66 million have never get off there arses to support anything in unity, except for lining the streets of London for the passing of Her Majesty, Elizabeth the Second. 1/66 is an astounding participation.

 

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No, that's an indication of how many people are politically invested in something. It does not necessarily indicate general trends.

Nice try, Paul.

[Thorgal]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:40 AM, Wobblybob said:

You don't see the similarities between the 1930s and now, strange?

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It's not allowed to explain in this topic the Palestinian cause from 1897 till 6th of October 2023.

 

But it's allowed to make any comparisons from  any historical date to justify war crimes, crimes against humanity, etc committed by Israel against Palestinians.

[Bkk Brian]

Speaking at the UN:

 

The son of Hamas founder: “If Israel fails in Gaza, all of us in the West will be next”

 

This crime cannot be forgiven, gambling with children's blood for political gain, it doesn't get worse than that, this is what Hamas wanted from day 1. They wanted to sacrifice 1000's of children so Israel can take the blame.

 

 

Full speech on youtube here:

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:41 AM, Neeranam said:

People all around the world are shouting Genocide

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So there are obviously people all around the world, that, like yourself, haven’t  any idea whatsoever what the word ‘genocide’ means ….. you have used it enough times in your student slogan methodology of posting, I thought you might have at least googled it by now  …… clueless

 

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 11/24/2023 at 10:01 AM, Thorgal said:

 

It's not allowed to explain in this topic the Palestinian cause from 1897 till 6th of October 2023.

 

But it's allowed to make any comparisons from  any historical date to justify war crimes, crimes against humanity, etc committed by Israel against Palestinians.

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  For the tenth time of asking, what war crimes have been committed by Israel ?

You keep making that claim whilst never giving examples of your claims

What are the war crimes committed by Israel  ?

Is this part of the Zen code to waging war or whatever the book was called 

Commit war crimes yourself, never admit to them and then accuse your enemy of committing war crimes ?

[Bkk Brian]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:19 AM, MrMojoRisin said:

Back to business smashing Hamas, or back to business blowing up kids?

 

The dead kid tally is already over 6,000, how high would you like to see it go in order to “smash Hamas?”

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The question is how high does Hamas want to see the tally go. Like ISIS they need to be wiped out.

[Paul Catton]

  On 11/24/2023 at 10:07 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  For the tenth time of asking, what war crimes have been committed by Israel ?

You keep making that claim whilst never giving examples of your claims

What are the war crimes committed by Israel  ?

Is this part of the Zen code to waging war or whatever the book was called 

Commit war crimes yourself, never admit to them and then accuse your enemy of committing war crimes ?

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Since when?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

Links all cited throughout the decades.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 11/24/2023 at 10:15 AM, Paul Catton said:

Since when?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

Links all cited throughout the decades.

 

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   I don't have the time to go thorough all those claims .

If you cannot be bothered to write them, then I am not going to be bothered to read them

Could you just state what war crimes Israel have committed in since October 7 th ?

Can you write it yourself ?

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:01 AM, Morch said:

 

That's what you say, the linked interview actually took a very different approach.

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Listen again - he says exactly what Hamas did and what they expected to happen in return and why they did it.

Yes he did not say that Hamas were terrorists and war criminals - I did. 

[MrMojoRisin]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:43 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   1 Million people marched against Israel in the U.K

66 Million people in the UK DIDNT march against Israel .

 

 

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Wrong comparison.

1 million marched for Palestine, how many marched for Israel?

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 11/24/2023 at 9:19 AM, MrMojoRisin said:

Back to business smashing Hamas, or back to business blowing up kids?

 

The dead kid tally is already over 6,000, how high would you like to see it go in order to “smash Hamas?”

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   I would prefer it if there were no Child casualties on either side .

I would like it to be that there are no Children at all killed in this war .

*Zen guide to waging war part 2 .

Murder their Children and then accuse them of murdering Children *

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The latest polling I could find on UK public opinion. It's about 3 weeks old. Given the recent news, it's more likely there has been a shift towards the Palestinians. But that's just a surmise.

 

 

https://archive.ph/hWIt7

https://www.ft.com/content/6bf4f6ed-b705-4e66-ac6f-59b5ef6c0c77

 

 

 

 

[MrMojoRisin]

  On 11/24/2023 at 10:07 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  For the tenth time of asking, what war crimes have been committed by Israel ?

You keep making that claim whilst never giving examples of your claims

What are the war crimes committed by Israel  ?

Is this part of the Zen code to waging war or whatever the book was called 

Commit war crimes yourself, never admit to them and then accuse your enemy of committing war crimes ?

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What war crimes????

 

The ones that the Biden administration is afraid journalists will see during the ceasefire.

[placeholder]

  On 11/24/2023 at 10:22 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I don't have the time to go thorough all those claims .

If you cannot be bothered to write them, then I am not going to be bothered to read them

Could you just state what war crimes Israel have committed in since October 7 th ?

Can you write it yourself ?

 

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Please. The effort of writing takes considerably longer than any effort to read unless the reader has a serious case of dyslexia. In any event, what does the validity of the information have to to with whether someone paraphrases it or not? Seems like an excuse to maintain willful ignorance.

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 11/24/2023 at 10:29 AM, MrMojoRisin said:

What war crimes????

 

 

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  I don't know , I was asking you that question . 

We are both asking each other the same question .

I was hoping that you were going to answer .

We had both better ask someone else 

[Paul Catton]

  On 11/24/2023 at 10:22 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I don't have the time to go thorough all those claims .

If you cannot be bothered to write them, then I am not going to be bothered to read them

Could you just state what war crimes Israel have committed in since October 7 th ?

Can you write it yourself ?

 

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Therefore you will not go to the Source, and educate yourself from a contrary opinion, but wish me to reproduce the same posting on a "open forum" wasting  this servers capacity for storage or a data entry crash  etc... 

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 11/24/2023 at 10:29 AM, placeholder said:

Please. The effort of writing takes considerably longer than any effort to read unless the reader has a serious case of dyslexia. In any event, what does the validity of the information have to to with whether someone paraphrases it or not? Seems like an excuse to maintain willful ignorance.

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   Do you know of any war crimes committed by Israel during the war which began on October 7 th ?

If you do indeed know of any, please could you write what they are ?

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 11/24/2023 at 10:34 AM, Paul Catton said:

Therefore you will not go to the Source, and educate yourself from a contrary opinion, but wish me to reproduce the same posting on a "open forum" wasting  this servers capacity for storage or a data entry crash  etc... 

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  No war crimes have been committed by Israel in this war .

You are just deflecting and making excuses as to why you cannot state what they are 

[MrMojoRisin]

  On 11/24/2023 at 10:29 AM, placeholder said:

Please. The effort of writing takes considerably longer than any effort to read unless the reader has a serious case of dyslexia. In any event, what does the validity of the information have to to with whether someone paraphrases it or not? Seems like an excuse to maintain willful ignorance.

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Wilful ignorance, incredibly apt term being correctly applied in this instance.