RanongCat Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 UN Security Council meeting imminent. Outcome will be of interest. Perhaps the US will lobby for support to Israel in addition to the several billion$ they so generously annually send to prop up Netanyahoo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 UN Security Council meeting imminent. Outcome will be of interest. Perhaps the US will lobby for support to Israel in addition to the several billion$ they so generously annually send to prop up Netanyahoo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Morch said: Token so far. Hopefully it will remain thus. Lebanon is already in tatters, economically and politically - so jumping in might not be the best decision. Then again, it's a great way to take people minds off domestic issues. Can Hizbolla and the Lebonese Govt. not be separated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 A policeman in Egypt killed 2 Israelis and 1 Egyptian at a tourist site in Alexandria https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-egypt-attack-tourism-af8a02136c390721a0fdef647394154c Should have had better sense than to vacation in Egypt at this time. RIP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, RanongCat said: Can Hizbolla and the Lebonese Govt. not be separated? Hezbollah is both a military organization and a political party. They are part of the government, usually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Morch said: Hezbollah is both a military organization and a political party. They are part of the government, usually. Oh , Righhht! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 7 hours ago, stevenl said: So you're saying Israel knew about the rocket pile, 7000+ according to Hamas, and did nothing about it. I find that hard to believe. Massive failure of Israeli intelligence here. And, if so, not one that they will repeat. How will they prevent such a stockpile? By finding the manufacturing and storage sights and destroying them - a practice which I am sure they will prosecute enthusiastically in months and years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said: What we need is a big Asteroid to land on this planet then all these problems will go away, I for one would welcome that with open arms. When the dust and debris clears the first thing we will see is a Hamas "militant" waving a black flag as he launched a rocket at Tel Aviv! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Some posts contravening our Community Standards have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: said And, if so, not one that they will repeat. How will they prevent such a stockpile? By finding the manufacturing and storage sights and destroying them - a practice which I am sure they will prosecute enthusiastically in months and years to come. The saddest part of your post is the projection of said enthusiastic prosecution to be in the possible realm of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stocky Posted October 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said: Argumenting like this, Poland had it coming in 1939, as did Ukraine in 2022, just to name two examples? Hardly, Poland didn't occupy Germany, stealing the fertile land and condemn the Germans to the South African equivalent of Bantustans. Ditto Ukraine was occupied by Russia not the other way round. . Edited October 8, 2023 by Stocky 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Have searched but not yet found any indication of the situation for the illegal settler enclaves on the wrong side of the fence. ???? 50 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Concern is limited by number? Not Gaza. Agricultural workers on the Israeli side more likely. Since you posted this I'm interested in the number of settlements in Gaza. Edited October 8, 2023 by stevenl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Morch said: Token so far. Hopefully it will remain thus. Lebanon is already in tatters, economically and politically - so jumping in might not be the best decision. Then again, it's a great way to take people minds off domestic issues. I don't think they'll do more, they just can't afford another disaster like in 2006. Edited October 8, 2023 by stevenl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, RanongCat said: So said with a vicious swing of handbag forgetting "IMO" and forum rules on accusational personal attack? FI, factual information (not sure about the handbag). This is Hamas's second and most successful attempt to overwhelm Iron Dome. The first was May 10 2021 when Hamas fired 4,350 rockets but over a longer time. Iron Dome can launch up to 800 interceptors at a time, subject to location and target constraints, and can reload subject to onsite ammo. Firing 5000 rockets rapidly followed by more would likely cause problems and was surely planned. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-iron-dome Edited October 8, 2023 by rabas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, stevenl said: Since you posted this I'm interested in your knowledge on the number of settlements in Gaza. I concede that since 2005 there h.as been a withdrawal of settlers from Gaza but a compensatory increase in the West bank. The security issue of those on the wrong side of a border remains in serious question given the overall situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, rabas said: FI, factual information (not sure about the handbag). This is Hamas's second and most successful attempt to overwhelm Iron Dome. The first was May 10 2021 when Hamas fired 4,350 rockets but over a longer time. Iron Dome can launch up to 800 interceptors at a time, subject to location and target constraints, and can reload subject to onsite ammo. Firing 5000 rapidly followed by more would likely cause problems and was surely planned. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-iron-dome All credit to the "Iron Dome " then in intended purpose despite limitations. The handbag reference was in reference to the nasty swipe and accusation of stupidity. Is individual opinion outside of populist consensus automatically Stupidity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 5 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Nothing ever happens in a vacuum. Cause and effect. Oppression and being treated as second class citizens leads to unrest. This has happened throughout history. It is happening in that area now. Some political science professors would refer to it as blowback. Israel has become an obnoxious bully. There again, perhaps political science professors should opine upon the "blowback" of shooting in cold blood (and filming the act and uploading it) of adolescents sheltering in a bomb shelter, the sight of elderly people being dragged off to an uncertain ( probably certain) fate, or the sight of the naked body of a young German woman seized and murdered from a peace festival. Political scientists don't have to clean up the bodies of slaughtered youth, run an increasingly fruitless attempt to locate the hostages, or explain to the parents of the murdered girl why the last image of their daughter is of some black clad bastard using her torso as a seat in the back of a pick up truck. "Blowback" - utter <deleted>! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 IMO the outcome of this exacerbation of a very sad conflict will only result in unnecessary deaths of many hundreds of people in a conflict that has already been drawn out for decades. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 hours ago, BarraMarra said: Considering Mossad is supposed to be one of the world's top information gatherers they didn't see this coming, did they?. Is it not a war crime to cause suffering inflicted on civilians to interrupt infrastructure such as cutting off Electrical supplies to another country? Umh, the electrical supplies to Gaza have been cut, because Hamas rocketed the power station in Israel which supplied them. Without electricity the water pumps don't work. If Israel deliberately shut down power supplies and water with the intention of causing the death of civilians that might be construed as a "war crime". They didn't! As it is, quite probably the greatest regret of Hamas is that the lack of power makes it difficult to make replacement rockets. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Walker88 said: Israel will be asking the US for more aid and assistance. I wonder if in some 'perfect' phone call, if Biden will link the release of aid to Israel first providing dirt on Biden's potential opponent? Would that be an impeachable offense? Republicans have said it would not, at least that's what they used to say. Oh for crying out loud! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) I don't ordinarily have much use for Thomas Friedman but I think his belief that the Iranians played a strong role in instigating the Hamas attack is sound. The last thing the Iranians want is a Saudi et alii rapprochement with Israel. https://archive.ph/JnKnt Edited October 8, 2023 by placeholder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Walker88 said: Israel will be asking the US for more aid and assistance. I wonder if in some 'perfect' phone call, if Biden will link the release of aid to Israel first providing dirt on Biden's potential opponent? Would that be an impeachable offense? Republicans have said it would not, at least that's what they used to say. Good one thanks for the chuckle here’s a lighter thought amongst this tragic horror guess who’s getting jealous he’s not getting all the attention?anyway a major miscalculation on the part of hammas they will be absolutely slaughtered even if it takes years the mossad will rub out each and every one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furioso Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Shove Hamas into the Sanai peninsula turn the Gaza strip into glass beads Hezbollah you're next sorry about the hostages LET'S GOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Edited October 8, 2023 by Furioso War! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppius Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 World War 3 starting right in front of our eyes 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Seppius said: World War 3 starting right in front of our eyes Where has that been reported ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 This is possibly ominous: Hezbollah, Israel exchange fire following attack from Palestinian militants Lebanon’s armed group Hezbollah and Israel exchanged fire on Sunday — one day after Palestinian militants launched a deadly surprise attack in Israel, leaving hundreds dead and thousands injured. Hezbollah said Sunday that it fired off guided rockets and artillery in the Shebaa Farms to show they stand “in solidarity” with the Palestinian people, Reuters reported. Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Sunday that IDF “struck targets in the area” after Hezbollah, an Iran-backed group, fired rockets into Israel. https://thehill.com/policy/international/4244228-hezbollah-israel-exchange-fire-following-attack-from-palestinian-militants/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, placeholder said: This is possibly ominous: Hezbollah, Israel exchange fire following attack from Palestinian militants Lebanon’s armed group Hezbollah and Israel exchanged fire on Sunday — one day after Palestinian militants launched a deadly surprise attack in Israel, leaving hundreds dead and thousands injured. Hezbollah said Sunday that it fired off guided rockets and artillery in the Shebaa Farms to show they stand “in solidarity” with the Palestinian people, Reuters reported. Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Sunday that IDF “struck targets in the area” after Hezbollah, an Iran-backed group, fired rockets into Israel. https://thehill.com/policy/international/4244228-hezbollah-israel-exchange-fire-following-attack-from-palestinian-militants/ Happened earlier, seems to be only a token sign of support. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said: Umh, the electrical supplies to Gaza have been cut, because Hamas rocketed the power station in Israel which supplied them. Without electricity the water pumps don't work. If Israel deliberately shut down power supplies and water with the intention of causing the death of civilians that might be construed as a "war crime". They didn't! As it is, quite probably the greatest regret of Hamas is that the lack of power makes it difficult to make replacement rockets. The Hamas rockets did hit the power station, and operations were disturbed for a while. By the time they got the power back on, the Minister in charge already signed a decree to disconnect the Gaza Strip supply. I don't think it was done with intention of killing people, but certainly to prevent aid and succor from an enemy. This sort of thing happens almost on every round of fighting, by the way. There's a power station in Gaza, but obviously it cannot supply the demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Furioso said: Shove Hamas into the Sanai peninsula turn the Gaza strip into glass beads Hezbollah you're next sorry about the hostages LET'S GOOOOO!!!!!!!!! You go right ahead, we'll catch up, hero. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 At the end of the day. Might is Right. Leave it to the IDF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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