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ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

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22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The US force is a deterrent to Hezbollah and Iran.

Hopefully it works.

Likewise, similar to the US advisors initially sent to Vietnam. 

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2 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Again, nothing conclusive from this BBC report, and is also currently being refuted.

Skepticism should be applied to all reports from either side.

Sleepy Joe has now arrived in Israel, after not viewing decapitated babies yet claiming he had, perhaps, he could have the ability to diffuse the situation, as he will have his own feet on the ground.

Well, gosh, my exact analysis. A rocket motor with lots of propellant fell at the hospital. 

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Just now, Paul Catton said:

Likewise, similar to the US advisors initially sent to Vietnam. 

No similarities.

There's no talk or intention of long term deployment in Israel. No need to, as well. The situation is quite different.

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1 minute ago, rabas said:

 

Well, gosh, my exact analysis. A rocket motor with lots of propellant fell at the hospital. 

Seems like it.

There's no crater.

Buildings around the parking lot not damaged much.

Cars burnt, but not mangled, or torn apart.

 

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After reading a couple dozen posts on this thread. One common phrase occurs regularly. ''Anti semetic.''

 

For me, this is not just a nonsense, but an umbrella term covering virtually anything that is not the main western or a certain historical line.

 

''Anti semetic.'' This term is so broad in meaning now, that just general political speech regarding Israel, can be deemed so.

The media is so one sided, the media should now show the real story, 

4 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

After reading a couple dozen posts on this thread. One common phrase occurs regularly. ''Anti semetic.''

 

For me, this is not just a nonsense, but an umbrella term covering virtually anything that is not the main western or a certain historical line.

 

''Anti semetic.'' This term is so broad in meaning now, that just general political speech regarding Israel, can be deemed so.

Owl should have gone to Specsavers ¯\_()_/¯

1 minute ago, Morch said:

Seems like it.

There's no crater.

Buildings around the parking lot not damaged much.

Cars burnt, but not mangled, or torn apart.

 

What's more, if a rocket breaks up into warhead and long rocket motor, the motor will likely tumble, fall slower, and land last as shown in the video.

 

So where are the 800 dead? No single missile kills 800 at once. The two World Trade Center buildings was 2753+ fatalities. Two hundred floors.

1 minute ago, rabas said:

What's more, if a rocket breaks up into warhead and long rocket motor, the motor will likely tumble, fall slower, and land last as shown in the video.

 

So where are the 800 dead? No single missile kills 800 at once. The two World Trade Center buildings was 2753+ fatalities. Two hundred floors.

 

The initial casualty figure is bogus anyway. Hamas announced 500 casualties, about and hour, hour half after the explosion. No way they could have known that so quickly. But it's catchy number, and why waste a PR opportunity. 

22 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Owl should have gone to Specsavers ¯\_()_/¯

Really!!??

 

I'll tell you something EP. I can see a squirrel at 200 metres and identify fish one metre below the surface in a muddy pool.

 

Nose is OK also. Can smell BS a mile off.

 

 

21 minutes ago, Morch said:

No similarities.

There's no talk or intention of long term deployment in Israel. No need to, as well. The situation is quite different.

Until it is different, and it gets similar each and every day through continued escalation by all.

Have you had the need to have a gas mask next to you when Iraqi scud missiles were landing in the neighborhood when a conflict strikes up and extends beyond control? 

7 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Really!!??

 

I'll tell you something EP. I can see a squirrel at 200 metres and identify fish one metre below the surface in a muddy pool.

 

Can also see through BS.

 

 

But you can’t see any antisemitic comments on the 95 pages of this thread …. maybe you need varifocals instead of distance lenses.

39 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Sleepy Joe has now arrived in Israel, after not viewing decapitated babies yet claiming he had, perhaps, he could have the ability to diffuse the situation, as he will have his own feet on the ground.

But head in the clouds 

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

But head in the clouds 

Joe has landed and is giving his first press update, let us hope he can provide a diffusion to the situation.

 

41 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Likewise, similar to the US advisors initially sent to Vietnam. 

Don't tell me, you'll be reminiscing of your days in Iraq next

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9 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Until it is different, and it gets similar each and every day through continued escalation by all.

Have you had the need to have a gas mask next to you when Iraqi scud missiles were landing in the neighborhood when a conflict strikes up and extends beyond control? 

What are you on about now?

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Don't tell me, you'll be reminiscing of your days in Iraq next

Brian, I was not in Iraq, Iraqi scud missiles did not internally fall from launch site.

 

Just now, Paul Catton said:

Brian, I was not in Iraq, Iraqi scud missiles did not internally fall from launch site.

 

Oh ok, it sounded like you were seeing as you brought them up on a topic about Israel and Hamas

 

16 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Have you had the need to have a gas mask next to you when Iraqi scud missiles were landing in the neighborhood when a conflict strikes up and extends beyond control? 

 

4 minutes ago, Morch said:

What are you on about now?

You professed there are no similarities between conflicts of past, similarities are now starting to rear their ugly head.

 

Just now, Paul Catton said:

You professed there are no similarities between conflicts of past, similarities are now starting to rear their ugly head.

 

I think people have the tendency to claim this whenever a crisis emerges. Like there's a one-size-fit-all template for these things. Seems more like a way to address chaos and uncertainty, rather than representing and actual 'thing'.

21 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

But you can’t see any antisemitic comments on the 95 pages of this thread …. maybe you need varifocals instead of distance lenses.

This post just illustrates my point.

 

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Oh ok, it sounded like you were seeing as you brought them up on a topic about Israel and Hamas

 

 

When a person responds to previous post, you need to see to see what was being responded to and why it had response. I realize this is a very emotive subject and much propaganda is thrown into the mix. The world is currently on a knife edge, Joe has now said he believes "the other team" bombed the hospital.  

44 minutes ago, Morch said:

No similarities.

There's no talk or intention of long term deployment in Israel. No need to, as well. The situation is quite different.

The US has a sad habit of inviting itself into and escalating conflicts.

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1 minute ago, Paul Catton said:

When a person responds to previous post, you need to see to see what was being responded to and why it had response. I realize this is a very emotive subject and much propaganda is thrown into the mix. The world is currently on a knife edge, Joe has now said he believes "the other team" bombed the hospital.  

Sounds like deflection to me but good to hear Biden has been briefed on the latest evidence collected rather than the immediate propganda accusations from Hamas minutes after the incident.

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10 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

The US has a sad habit of inviting itself into and escalating conflicts.

Really, I thought the USA were usually asked.............:coffee1:

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The IDF have just released an intercepted recording of two Palestinian operatives discussing how the rocket that was fired by militants from Palestinian Islamic Jihad from a cemetery adjacent to the hospital, misfired and caused the explosion.

 

I have just listened to it, and they are obviously not talking in English, but it has translation subtitles. Chilling how they dismiss it as a bit of bad luck.

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Sounds like deflection to me but good to hear Biden has been briefed on the latest evidence collected rather than the immediate propganda accusations from Hamas minutes after the incident.

Joe has had no firm intelligence confirming his statement that he believed it was "the other team", he also then concluded in so many words investigations are still underway. Thankfully I now do not live adjacent to a Synagogue, Mosque, Church or Temple.

 

Billy Joel

The Worlds on Fire

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https://metro.co.uk/video/idf-releases-alleged-intercepted-recording-phone-call-hamas-operatives-discussing-hospital-strike-3040153/?ito=video.desktop.share.top.email

 

The two Palestinian operatives discussing how an Islamic Jihad rocket fired from a cemetery adjacent to the hospital caused the explosion and destruction  

12 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Joe has had no firm intelligence confirming his statement that he believed it was "the other team", he also then concluded in so many words investigations are still underway. Thankfully I now do not live adjacent to a Synagogue, Mosque, Church or Temple.

 

Billy Joel

The Worlds on Fire

The German chancellor condemns a firebomb attack on a Berlin synagogue and vows protection for Jews

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/berlin-synagogue-attacked-firebombs-antisemitic-incidents-rise-germany-104064043

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