Popular Post Morch Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, rabas said: Well, gosh, my exact analysis. A rocket motor with lots of propellant fell at the hospital. Seems like it. There's no crater. Buildings around the parking lot not damaged much. Cars burnt, but not mangled, or torn apart. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post owl sees all Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 After reading a couple dozen posts on this thread. One common phrase occurs regularly. ''Anti semetic.'' For me, this is not just a nonsense, but an umbrella term covering virtually anything that is not the main western or a certain historical line. ''Anti semetic.'' This term is so broad in meaning now, that just general political speech regarding Israel, can be deemed so. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 The media is so one sided, the media should now show the real story, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, owl sees all said: After reading a couple dozen posts on this thread. One common phrase occurs regularly. ''Anti semetic.'' For me, this is not just a nonsense, but an umbrella term covering virtually anything that is not the main western or a certain historical line. ''Anti semetic.'' This term is so broad in meaning now, that just general political speech regarding Israel, can be deemed so. Owl should have gone to Specsavers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Morch said: Seems like it. There's no crater. Buildings around the parking lot not damaged much. Cars burnt, but not mangled, or torn apart. What's more, if a rocket breaks up into warhead and long rocket motor, the motor will likely tumble, fall slower, and land last as shown in the video. So where are the 800 dead? No single missile kills 800 at once. The two World Trade Center buildings was 2753+ fatalities. Two hundred floors. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, rabas said: What's more, if a rocket breaks up into warhead and long rocket motor, the motor will likely tumble, fall slower, and land last as shown in the video. So where are the 800 dead? No single missile kills 800 at once. The two World Trade Center buildings was 2753+ fatalities. Two hundred floors. The initial casualty figure is bogus anyway. Hamas announced 500 casualties, about and hour, hour half after the explosion. No way they could have known that so quickly. But it's catchy number, and why waste a PR opportunity. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Owl should have gone to Specsavers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Really!!?? I'll tell you something EP. I can see a squirrel at 200 metres and identify fish one metre below the surface in a muddy pool. Nose is OK also. Can smell BS a mile off. Edited October 18, 2023 by owl sees all changed last line. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Morch said: No similarities. There's no talk or intention of long term deployment in Israel. No need to, as well. The situation is quite different. Until it is different, and it gets similar each and every day through continued escalation by all. Have you had the need to have a gas mask next to you when Iraqi scud missiles were landing in the neighborhood when a conflict strikes up and extends beyond control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, owl sees all said: Really!!?? I'll tell you something EP. I can see a squirrel at 200 metres and identify fish one metre below the surface in a muddy pool. Can also see through BS. But you can’t see any antisemitic comments on the 95 pages of this thread …. maybe you need varifocals instead of distance lenses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 39 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: Sleepy Joe has now arrived in Israel, after not viewing decapitated babies yet claiming he had, perhaps, he could have the ability to diffuse the situation, as he will have his own feet on the ground. But head in the clouds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: But head in the clouds Joe has landed and is giving his first press update, let us hope he can provide a diffusion to the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: Likewise, similar to the US advisors initially sent to Vietnam. Don't tell me, you'll be reminiscing of your days in Iraq next 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: Until it is different, and it gets similar each and every day through continued escalation by all. Have you had the need to have a gas mask next to you when Iraqi scud missiles were landing in the neighborhood when a conflict strikes up and extends beyond control? What are you on about now? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Don't tell me, you'll be reminiscing of your days in Iraq next Brian, I was not in Iraq, Iraqi scud missiles did not internally fall from launch site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Paul Catton said: Brian, I was not in Iraq, Iraqi scud missiles did not internally fall from launch site. Oh ok, it sounded like you were seeing as you brought them up on a topic about Israel and Hamas 16 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: Have you had the need to have a gas mask next to you when Iraqi scud missiles were landing in the neighborhood when a conflict strikes up and extends beyond control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Morch said: What are you on about now? You professed there are no similarities between conflicts of past, similarities are now starting to rear their ugly head. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Paul Catton said: You professed there are no similarities between conflicts of past, similarities are now starting to rear their ugly head. I think people have the tendency to claim this whenever a crisis emerges. Like there's a one-size-fit-all template for these things. Seems more like a way to address chaos and uncertainty, rather than representing and actual 'thing'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: But you can’t see any antisemitic comments on the 95 pages of this thread …. maybe you need varifocals instead of distance lenses. This post just illustrates my point. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Oh ok, it sounded like you were seeing as you brought them up on a topic about Israel and Hamas When a person responds to previous post, you need to see to see what was being responded to and why it had response. I realize this is a very emotive subject and much propaganda is thrown into the mix. The world is currently on a knife edge, Joe has now said he believes "the other team" bombed the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, Morch said: No similarities. There's no talk or intention of long term deployment in Israel. No need to, as well. The situation is quite different. The US has a sad habit of inviting itself into and escalating conflicts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 Hamas Hijacked Victims’ Social Media Accounts to Spread Terror https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-hijacked-victims-social-media-181636480.html 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Paul Catton said: When a person responds to previous post, you need to see to see what was being responded to and why it had response. I realize this is a very emotive subject and much propaganda is thrown into the mix. The world is currently on a knife edge, Joe has now said he believes "the other team" bombed the hospital. Sounds like deflection to me but good to hear Biden has been briefed on the latest evidence collected rather than the immediate propganda accusations from Hamas minutes after the incident. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, RanongCat said: The US has a sad habit of inviting itself into and escalating conflicts. Really, I thought the USA were usually asked............. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 The IDF have just released an intercepted recording of two Palestinian operatives discussing how the rocket that was fired by militants from Palestinian Islamic Jihad from a cemetery adjacent to the hospital, misfired and caused the explosion. I have just listened to it, and they are obviously not talking in English, but it has translation subtitles. Chilling how they dismiss it as a bit of bad luck. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Sounds like deflection to me but good to hear Biden has been briefed on the latest evidence collected rather than the immediate propganda accusations from Hamas minutes after the incident. Joe has had no firm intelligence confirming his statement that he believed it was "the other team", he also then concluded in so many words investigations are still underway. Thankfully I now do not live adjacent to a Synagogue, Mosque, Church or Temple. Billy Joel The Worlds on Fire 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 https://metro.co.uk/video/idf-releases-alleged-intercepted-recording-phone-call-hamas-operatives-discussing-hospital-strike-3040153/?ito=video.desktop.share.top.email The two Palestinian operatives discussing how an Islamic Jihad rocket fired from a cemetery adjacent to the hospital caused the explosion and destruction 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: Joe has had no firm intelligence confirming his statement that he believed it was "the other team", he also then concluded in so many words investigations are still underway. Thankfully I now do not live adjacent to a Synagogue, Mosque, Church or Temple. Billy Joel The Worlds on Fire The German chancellor condemns a firebomb attack on a Berlin synagogue and vows protection for Jews https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/berlin-synagogue-attacked-firebombs-antisemitic-incidents-rise-germany-104064043 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: Joe has had no firm intelligence confirming his statement that he believed it was "the other team", he also then concluded in so many words investigations are still underway. Thankfully I now do not live adjacent to a Synagogue, Mosque, Church or Temple. Billy Joel The Worlds on Fire You seem to know more than Joe. Perhaps you should hop on a plane and present your case. Although that may mean being near a mosque or or syngogue Edited October 18, 2023 by Bkk Brian 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Morch said: The initial casualty figure is bogus anyway. Hamas announced 500 casualties, about and hour, hour half after the explosion. No way they could have known that so quickly. But it's catchy number, and why waste a PR opportunity. I'm sure there weren't 500 killed but after Hamas went into the hospital, there probably is now. 😞 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paul Catton Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Morch said: The German chancellor condemns a firebomb attack on a Berlin synagogue and vows protection for Jews https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/berlin-synagogue-attacked-firebombs-antisemitic-incidents-rise-germany-104064043 There are now going to be thousands of atrocities committed across the world by all religious zealots and vengeance seekers. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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