12 Thais may have been killed in Hamas attack in Israel

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Marco51 said:

Denying a 2state solution from the start or a peaceful together of palestinians and jews as a united country, stealing other peoples' land and life has given rise to hamas and similar organisations (they did not exist before Israel started the Stern Group terror and did not either until it was obvious the 2state solution was a scam), maybe shooting and arresting stone throwing children against tanks and trigger happy brooklyn jews has slightly increased the anger of people that had lived there for thousands of years before the zionists, just as the cia coup against an elected governement support for a murderous shah has given rise to equally murderous mullahs that now support eejits like hamas against eejits like N. . Maybe history is just another alternative fact, right? And maybe killling their own 2state solution politicians was not the greatest idea ........at least Netanyoohoo can now follow through easily on his fascist agenda and turn Israel from democracy to a jewliban state. My alternative fact would be : Netanthingummie knew this would happen and let it, so he could cling on to power and not go to jail for corruption. As good as any explanation, ey?!

I call B.S.!

The original founding of the State of Israel was based on a partition of TWO STATES.

Israel agreed. The Arab world attacked.

[Lemsta69]

23 minutes ago, Docno said:

The problem is that Islam is too easy to hijack for nefarious ends

No, Islam was created specifically for nefarious ends namely a worldwide caliphate. It doesn't need to be "hijacked" because it is a template for war and the subjugation or death of the kufr. It must be resisted at all costs, If you believe otherwise you are surely deluded.

[steven100]

quick,  get those Thai's back here safely so they can spend their salary at the market and lottery vendors.

[Homburg]

47 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

I didn't realize there was that many Thai's in Israel need a few planes to get that lot home,  

Sounds like that new tourist tax will need to be hiked to pay for that.

[paul1804]

48 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Pig with green headband points AK at tied up Thais and people are whining and protesting about poor misunderstood peaceable Palestinians ????

Hamas is also the enemy of the Palestinians, just most of them are either too scared, to stupid or maybe brainwashed to acknowledge this fact. Hamas know Israel will retaliate plus some and that wont be good for all, especially the Palestinians of which many just want to get on with life! Probably instigated & assisted by Tehran with other eastern Europe influence! Putin would love to give the West another headache to take the heat off Russia so he can win the war! 

What a sad sorry disgusting bunch we have become as homosapien's.

Edited October 9, 2023 by paul1804

[Lemsta69]

5 minutes ago, steven100 said:

quick,  get those Thai's back here safely so they can spend their salary at the market and lottery vendors.

From what the article says they weren't getting paid very much. 50K bath per month for driving trucks around Israel seems like a really rotten deal given all the money that lot have.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Lemsta69 said:

From what the article says they weren't getting paid very much. 50K bath per month for driving trucks around Israel seems like a really rotten deal given all the money that lot have.

How much would they get paid for the same work in Isaan?

I picked up your antisemitic trope BTW.

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

From what the article says they weren't getting paid very much. 50K bath per month for driving trucks around Israel seems like a really rotten deal given all the money that lot have.

How much money do "that lot have " ?

[animalmagic]

7 minutes ago, paul1804 said:

Hamas is also the enemy of the Palestinians, just most of them are either too scared, to stupid or maybe brainwashed to acknowledge this fact. Hamas know Israel will retaliate plus some and that wont be good for all, especially the Palestinians of which many just want to get on with life! Probably instigated & assisted by Tehran with other eastern Europe influence! Putin would love to give the allies another headache to take the heat off Russia so he can win the war! 

What a sad sorry disgusting bunch we have become as homosapien's.

Hamas is A Sunni fundamentalist Islamic organisation and it would be unlikely that they operate at the direction of Iran as that country is Shia and supports Hezbollah, a Shia fundamentalist Islamic organisation.

Islam's Sunni-Shia Divide, Explained | HISTORY

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, Enzian said:

How can this official say Thailand remains neutral and then advocate a two state solution, the ultimate view of total outsiders? Hamas doesn't want a two state solution, they've shown that over and over. They want one state, with every Jew dead; it's part of their charter. But they may get what they want ironically because Israel now has little choice but to incorporate Gaza as the only path to any sort of security; they can't keep letting this happen over and over. But if Hamas is allowed to survive this, will Thailand want any of its citizens to stay in that area? Is removing them neutral?

If Israel does that, it would be tantamount to declaring war on the entire Arab world, and could be the beginning of the end of Israel as a nation. The extremists Netanyahu has allied himself with are destroying the country. 

[bbko]

50 minutes ago, Screaming said:

There are many Moslem countries visiting Thailand

I kind of like Molam music 

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand unequivocally condemns the violations that have occurred in this crisis, though it refrains from naming specific groups responsible.

Staying on the fence as usual

[Dukeleto]

1 hour ago, animalmagic said:

"Jakkapong further disclosed that about 30,000 Thai nationals are employed in Israel, primarily in the agricultural sector. "

 

It's not difficult!

Doing what? Massaging cucumbers?

[placnx]

1 hour ago, malibukid said:

Israel's karma

From this link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas

With its takeover of Gaza after the 1967 war with Egypt, Israel hunted down secular Palestinian Liberation Organization factions, but dropped the previous Egyptian rulers' harsh restrictions against Islamic activists.[16] In fact, Israel for many years tolerated and at times encouraged Islamic activists and groups as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the PLO and its dominant faction, Fatah.[16][17]

 

The sources [16][17] are a 2009 article in the Wall Street Journal and a 2006 book by Matthew Levitt, forward by Dennis Ross, so should be reliable information.

 

[placnx]

16 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

Hamas is A Sunni fundamentalist Islamic organisation and it would be unlikely that they operate at the direction of Iran as that country is Shia and supports Hezbollah, a Shia fundamentalist Islamic organisation.

Islam's Sunni-Shia Divide, Explained | HISTORY

One thing that unites conservative Muslims, Shia or Sunni, is the increasing settler & extreme Orthodox encroachment on the Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif in Jerusalem. This link explains the formation of the relationship between Hezbollah and Hamas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas

[ujayujay]

3 hours ago, Enzian said:

How can this official say Thailand remains neutral and then advocate a two state solution, the ultimate view of total outsiders? Hamas doesn't want a two state solution, they've shown that over and over. They want one state, with every Jew dead; it's part of their charter. But they may get what they want ironically because Israel now has little choice but to incorporate Gaza as the only path to any sort of security; they can't keep letting this happen over and over. But if Hamas is allowed to survive this, will Thailand want any of its citizens to stay in that area? Is removing them neutral?

You are completely wrong! Hamas extremists want this! The majority of Palestinians, especially in the West Bank, like much of Israeli society, want a two-state solution! Israel's extremist government does not want a two-state solution. So we have a situation that shows what happens when extremists subjugate a country!

Edited October 9, 2023 by ujayujay

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, Iamloki said:

I am by no stretch of the imagination an authority here... but I think only one book says to kill any who will not convert. I kind of doubt Gaza will get nuked... those on shore breezes would be deadly for Israel - not to mention Israel could not then occupy Gaza...

On the plus side, they wouldn't have to worry about repairing the street lighting...

[sqwakvfr]

RIP.  I am not pro Israel or Palestine but Al Jazeera is calling this attack “The Gaza Israel War”.  Some on the Palestinian side are calling this a “Military Operation”.  Other media outlets are calling it the :”Hamas Israel War. Innocent civilians from many parts of the world have been killed and some have been taken hostage so this might be a new definition of a military operation.  The video of the civilian women being dragged into and out the SUV was hard to watch.  Her hands were bound behind her back and the “soldier” was dragging her by the hair.  

 

This might last a while and it will get bloodier. If the airspace into Tel Aviv is closed then it will be difficult to get so many out in a timely manner.  At best 200 to 300 at a time can be evacuated per aircraft.  How many large transport aircraft does the RTAF have?  The Thai Government might have to commander a few Thai Airways B777 into service.  I doubt any of the Thai Airways A380’s are in airworthy condition? 

[herfiehandbag]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

As many as 12 Thais may have been killed in the Hamas attack on Israel, according to Deputy Foreign Minister Jakkaphong Sangmanee in his post on X Sunday night.

Parading around in a captured Israeli vehicle like that is remarkably silly.

 

One aircraft.

 

One laser target marker.

 

One bomb.

Edited October 9, 2023 by herfiehandbag

[Lemsta69]

29 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

How much would they get paid for the same work in Isaan?

I picked up your antisemitic trope BTW.

Isaan is not Israel. Pretty sad state of affairs if the rich you-know-who's can't pay a proper wage for what turns out to be a very hazardous job. 

 

As for being "antisemitic", no I'm not anti I just don't believe the propoganda anymore. Both sides in this conflict are hard-headed, full of themselves, unlikeable people and neither side has the moral high ground.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

RIP.  I am not pro Israel or Palestine but Al Jazeera is calling this attack “The Gaza Israel War”.  Some on the Palestinian side are calling this a “Military Operation”.  Other media outlets are calling it the :”Hamas Israel War. Innocent civilians from many parts of the world have been killed and some have been taken hostage so this might be a new definition of a military operation.  The video of the civilian women being dragged into and out the SUV was hard to watch.  Her hands were bound behind her back and the “soldier” was dragging her by the hair.  

 

This might last a while and it will get bloodier. If the airspace into Tel Aviv is closed then it will be difficult to get so many out in a timely manner.  At best 200 to 300 at a time can be evacuated per aircraft.  How many large transport aircraft does the RTAF have?  The Thai Government might have to commander a few Thai Airways B777 into service.  I doubt any of the Thai Airways A380’s are in airworthy condition? 

Netanyahu explicitly said this is WAR not a military operation.

It sounded like a snide dig at Putin to me, though likely uintended.

It's definitely the Israel - Hamas war.

Israel wants to eliminate Hamas, not Gaza.

It will definitely be very bloody and it will definitely take quite a long time.

Why?

The hostages.

[pacovl46]

3 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Minus the first year's salary that is taken for the agent fees?

How was that relevant to the story?! 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

Isaan is not Israel. Pretty sad state of affairs if the rich you-know-who's can't pay a proper wage for what turns out to be a very hazardous job. 

 

As for being "antisemitic", no I'm not anti I just don't believe the propoganda anymore. Both sides in this conflict are hard-headed, full of themselves, unlikeable people and neither side has the moral high ground.

I am not accusing you of anything.

Your post was classic antisemitic garbage.

Jews are all rich. Jews are all cheap. You're not fooling anyone!

Back to the real world. 

Business people of any ethnicity, whether they are rich or not, tend to pay wages that are high enough to attract workers (but not much more) and that level might be high or low depending on the market.

Edited October 9, 2023 by Jingthing

[Docno]

1 hour ago, Lemsta69 said:

No, Islam was created specifically for nefarious ends namely a worldwide caliphate. It doesn't need to be "hijacked" because it is a template for war and the subjugation or death of the kufr. It must be resisted at all costs, If you believe otherwise you are surely deluded.

No delusion here. I'm an atheist reading the Qur'an for a third time at the moment (with commentary by Robert Spencer, if you know him), so I know very well what it contains. Do you?  It's certainly not a 'religion of peace', but I know many Muslims (most of whom have never read the Quran in a language they understand, much less the hadiths), and they don't have values different from you or I. You have to understand that what people believe is often different from what can be found in their holy books. Want a template for war and war crimes -- read the Old Testament some time (which is the template for Quran, btw). But you won't find many Jews today advocating the enslavement of war captives, the destruction of whole peoples, etc (all of which is in the OT) 

Edited October 9, 2023 by Docno
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[pacovl46]

52 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

No, Islam was created specifically for nefarious ends namely a worldwide caliphate. It doesn't need to be "hijacked" because it is a template for war and the subjugation or death of the kufr. It must be resisted at all costs, If you believe otherwise you are surely deluded.

The only delusional one here is you! Most Muslims I've ever spoken to about this subject matter want peace and for all the Islamic related violence to stop! 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, pacovl46 said:

The only delusional one here is you! Most Muslims I've ever spoken to about this subject matter want peace and for all the Islamic related violence to stop! 

That may be true but most Palestinian Arabs want Israel to stop existing. Naturally Israel has a problem with that.

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

Isaan is not Israel. Pretty sad state of affairs if the rich you-know-who's can't pay a proper wage for what turns out to be a very hazardous job. 

 

As for being "antisemitic", no I'm not anti I just don't believe the propoganda anymore. Both sides in this conflict are hard-headed, full of themselves, unlikeable people and neither side has the moral high ground.

Not all Israelis/Jews are rich and he was being paid the going rate for his job .

  Do you imagine that there's a rich Jewish boss keeping all the money for himself ?

  

[ujayujay]

57 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I call B.S.!

The original founding of the State of Israel was based on a partition of TWO STATES.

Israel agreed. The Arab world attacked.

....yes, especially the Seddlers, Joker????????????

[pacovl46]

4 minutes ago, Docno said:

No delusion here. I'm an atheist reading the Qur'an for a third time at the moment (with commentary by Robert Spencer, if you know him), so I know very well what it contains. Do you?  It's certainly not a 'religion of peace', but I know many Muslims (most of whom have never read the Quran in a language they understand, much less the hadiths), and they don't have values different from you or I. You have to understand that what believe is different from what can be found in their holy books. Want a template for war and war crimes -- read the Old Testament some time (which is the template for Quran, btw). But you won't find many Jews today advocating the enslavement of war captives, the destruction of whole peoples, etc (all of which is in the OT) 

You're wasting your time on that guy! Trust me! I wouldn't be surprised, if he is Israeli because of his rethoric! Sounds totally brainwashed to me! 

[1happykamper]

Far too many comments here are using the "laughter" button. So very wrong and sad to see. 

 

RIP to all those killed