Hydroxchrloroquine is shown to be safe and effective says Science direct

[dhupverg]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2052297523000914

 

Conclusion
Treatment of COVID-19 using a combination of hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin was safe and was associated with a statistically significant mortality benefit in the treatment of COVID-19 infection in hospitalized patients. Our findings do not support the current negative recommendations regarding this treatment.

[rattlesnake]

Of course, as all the properly informed people know.

 

All the "scientists" who said it didn't work should face proceedings.

 

President Trump deserves credit for telling us about it in 2020, despite the media hysteria:

“I happen to be taking it,” Trump said during a roundtable event at the White House. “A lot of good things have come out. You’d be surprised at how many people are taking it, especially the front-line workers.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/18/trump-says-he-takes-hydroxychloroquine-to-prevent-coronavirus-infection.html

Edited October 10, 2023 by rattlesnake

[lamyai3]

21 minutes ago, dhupverg said:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2052297523000914

 

Conclusion
Treatment of COVID-19 using a combination of hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin was safe and was associated with a statistically significant mortality benefit in the treatment of COVID-19 infection in hospitalized patients. Our findings do not support the current negative recommendations regarding this treatment.

This was the go to treatment for anyone under clinical care with a mild or moderate case under the Thailand MoPH guidelines back in 2020-21. 

[amexpat]

48 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Of course, as all the properly informed people know.

 

All the "scientists" who said it didn't work should face proceedings.

 

President Trump deserves credit for telling us about it in 2020, despite the media hysteria:

“I happen to be taking it,” Trump said during a roundtable event at the White House. “A lot of good things have come out. You’d be surprised at how many people are taking it, especially the front-line workers.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/18/trump-says-he-takes-hydroxychloroquine-to-prevent-coronavirus-infection.html

EX president Trump also recommended taking bleach and household cleaners like Lysol.

[rattlesnake]

4 minutes ago, amexpat said:

EX president Trump also recommended taking bleach and household cleaners like Lysol.

No he didn't. He recommended chlorine dioxide and he was right. The lying media said it was bleach and their mindless followers just went with it.

Edited October 10, 2023 by rattlesnake

[LosLobo]

16 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

No he didn't. He recommended chlorine dioxide and he was right. The lying media said it was bleach and their mindless followers just went with it.

Yes that 'lying media and mindless followers'.

 

Are you talking about the likes of Fox News and 'it's mindless followers'?

 

'Chlorine dioxide is .... commonly used as a bleach'.

 

Chlorine dioxide - Wikipedia

 

[rattlesnake]

3 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Yes that 'lying media and mindless followers'.

 

Are you talking about the likes of Fox News and 'it's mindless followers'?

 

'Chlorine dioxide is .... commonly used as a bleach'.

 

Chlorine dioxide - Wikipedia

 

Happy reading!

 

Inhibition of the Binding of Variants of SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus Spike Protein to a Human Receptor by Chlorine Dioxide

https://www.remedypublications.com/open-access/inhibition-of-the-binding-of-variants-of-sars-cov-2-coronavirus-spike-7364.pdf

 

"These findings show that chlorine dioxide aqueous solution can inactivate the binding of the variant spike proteins to the human ACE2 receptor protein, indicating that this strategy may be useful in blocking the transmission of variant SARS-CoV-2 viruses."

 

Protective effect of low-concentration chlorine dioxide gas against influenza A virus infection

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18089729/

 

Evaluation of the antiviral activity of chlorine dioxide and sodium hypochlorite against feline calicivirus, human influenza virus, measles virus, canine distemper virus, human herpesvirus, human adenovirus, canine adenovirus and canine parvovirus

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20616431/

[LosLobo]

40 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Happy reading!

 

Inhibition of the Binding of Variants of SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus Spike Protein to a Human Receptor by Chlorine Dioxide

https://www.remedypublications.com/open-access/inhibition-of-the-binding-of-variants-of-sars-cov-2-coronavirus-spike-7364.pdf

 

"These findings show that chlorine dioxide aqueous solution can inactivate the binding of the variant spike proteins to the human ACE2 receptor protein, indicating that this strategy may be useful in blocking the transmission of variant SARS-CoV-2 viruses."

 

Protective effect of low-concentration chlorine dioxide gas against influenza A virus infection

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18089729/

 

Evaluation of the antiviral activity of chlorine dioxide and sodium hypochlorite against feline calicivirus, human influenza virus, measles virus, canine distemper virus, human herpesvirus, human adenovirus, canine adenovirus and canine parvovirus

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20616431/

Thank you, for your lame attempt at deflection.

 

Could you point to anywhere in the studies that you posted that chlorine dioxide blocked COVID infection 'in vivo'?

 

Edited October 11, 2023 by LosLobo

[rattlesnake]

50 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Thank you, for your lame attempt at deflection.

 

Could you point to anywhere in the studies that you posted that chlorine dioxide blocked COVID infection 'in vivo'?

 

The issue at hand here is the claim that Trump recommended household bleach to treat Covid. He didn't, he recommended chlorine dioxide.

[LosLobo]

3 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

The issue at hand here is the claim that Trump recommended household bleach to treat Covid. He didn't, he recommended chlorine dioxide.

With respect, I think that the issue at hand here is that you failed to substantiate your disingenuous claims.

 

Firstly, that chlorine dioxide was not (a) bleach.

 

Secondly, that chlorine dioxide protected against COVID in the human body.

 

Shall we go for the trifecta here?

 

Please point to the claim that Trump recommended 'household bleach' to treat Covid.

 

[rattlesnake]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

With respect, I think that the issue at hand here is that you failed to substantiate your disingenuous claims.

 

Firstly, that chlorine dioxide was not (a) bleach.

 

Secondly, that chlorine dioxide protected against COVID in the human body.

 

Shall we go for the trifecta here?

 

Please point to the claim that Trump recommended 'household bleach' to treat Covid.

 

Chlorine dioxide is not "bleach" in the way 99% of people understand it, but you already know that, you're just playing with words.

[bendejo]

On 10/10/2023 at 7:25 AM, rattlesnake said:

“A lot of good things have come out. You’d be surprised at how many people are taking it, especially the front-line workers.”

Classic DT empty statement.

A lot of good things:  like what comes out of a piñata?

You'd be surprised:  yes, tell me more about myself

many people are taking it:  who, exactly?

front-line workers:  been to the front lines, have you?

 

[LosLobo]

9 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Chlorine dioxide is not "bleach" in the way 99% of people understand it, but you already know that, you're just playing with words.

Bleach is the generic name for any chemical product that is used industrially or domestically to remove colour (whitening) from fabric or fiber or to clean or to remove stains in a process called bleaching. 

 

Bleach - Wikipedia

Edited October 11, 2023 by LosLobo

[impulse]

On 10/10/2023 at 11:15 PM, amexpat said:

EX president Trump also recommended taking bleach and household cleaners like Lysol.

The fact that you even believe he recommended taking Lysol is testament to the effectiveness of the MSM to spin that narrative. 

 

Also, the oft repeated "Ivermectin is horse medicine" in spite of it being used in treating humans, for years and in billions of doses.

But Trumpers are the gullible ones being fooled?

 

Edited October 12, 2023 by impulse

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

Also, the oft repeated "Ivermectin is horse medicine" in spite of it being used in treating humans, for years and in billions of doses.

But Trumpers are the gullible ones being fooled?

 

Yep they certainly are, especially those that took the animal version of Ivermectin and not the human formulation.....lol. 

 

In addition as the OP states in the study, it was only a little effective when combined with antibiotic treatment (azithromycin). The treatment of covid 19 with antibiotics was discovered well before.

[impulse]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yep they certainly are, especially those that took the animal version of Ivermectin and not the human formulation.....lol. 

You mean the ones whose doctors were not allowed to prescribe the human version for fear of losing their licenses to practice?

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

You mean the ones whose doctors were not allowed to prescribe the human version for fear of losing their licenses to practice?

 

No 

[mohlite]

Hydroxychloroquine was known as a safe and effective drug for Covid-19 and was used in China from the beginning. 

However, having a safe and effective medicine would preclude expedited approval, EUA, (emergency use authorization) for the Covid-19 vaccine. Therefore, for the vaccine promoters, dismissing all safe and effective treatments was essential.

 President Trump touted HCQ as an effective treatment. The Pfizer-sponsored media, additionally suffering from the Trump derangement syndrome, was quick to denounce anything recommended by Trump. Truth did not matter to them; neither did the lives of people who could die following wrong recommendations.

[impulse]

17 minutes ago, mohlite said:

However, having a safe and effective medicine would preclude expedited approval, EUA, (emergency use authorization) for the Covid-19 vaccine.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

 

Reminds me of the old saying (and I'm paraphrasing here) It's easier to cheat people than it is to convince them they've been cheated.

 

[Bkk Brian]

40 minutes ago, mohlite said:

Hydroxychloroquine was known as a safe and effective drug for Covid-19 and was used in China from the beginning. 

However, having a safe and effective medicine would preclude expedited approval, EUA, (emergency use authorization) for the Covid-19 vaccine. Therefore, for the vaccine promoters, dismissing all safe and effective treatments was essential.

 President Trump touted HCQ as an effective treatment. The Pfizer-sponsored media, additionally suffering from the Trump derangement syndrome, was quick to denounce anything recommended by Trump. Truth did not matter to them; neither did the lives of people who could die following wrong recommendations.

Coronavirus: ‘conflicting treatment message’ as China rejects Trump-touted drug hydroxychloroquine

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3098021/coronavirus-conflicting-treatment-message-china-rejects-trump

 

43 minutes ago, mohlite said:

However, having a safe and effective medicine would preclude expedited approval, EUA, (emergency use authorization) for the Covid-19 vaccine. Therefore, for the vaccine promoters, dismissing all safe and effective treatments was essential.

False other treatments aside from vaccines have been trialed alongside the vaccines.

 

Clinical platform trials for coronavirus (COVID-19) treatments
Past and current clinical trials into therapeutic and antiviral treatments for COVID-19, how to take part, and which treatments have proven to be effective.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/clinical-platform-trials-for-coronavirus-covid-19-treatments

[mohlite]

24 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

False other treatments aside from vaccines have been trialed alongside the vaccines.

 

Clinical platform trials for coronavirus (COVID-19) treatments
Past and current clinical trials into therapeutic and antiviral treatments for COVID-19, how to take part, and which treatments have proven to be effective.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/clinical-platform-trials-for-coronavirus-covid-19-treatments

Have any of these trial's identified suitable treatments for covid and approved by the FDA? I suspect not.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, mohlite said:

Have any of these trial's identified suitable treatments for covid and approved by the FDA? I suspect not.

The US is not the center of the world, these are UK based trials however the FDA has indeed approved treatments for covid 19 other than vaccines

[mohlite]

According to the WHO statistics, approx 1.13M people have died of covid in the United States. If 37% of those lives could be saved by using HCQ, then about 436,000 people would not have to die needlessly.

Instead, Pfizer made billions, the pandemic was never stopped, and the Pfizer-sponsored press has moved the object of their hysterical attention elsewhere.

[mohlite]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The US is not the center of the world, these are UK based trials however the FDA has indeed approved treatments for covid 19 other than vaccines

I doubt there were any approved when HCQ was blocked.

[mohlite]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The US is not the center of the world, these are UK based trials however the FDA has indeed approved treatments for covid 19 other than vaccines

I doubt there were any approved when HCQ was blocked. If there were, EUA's for vaccines would not have been granted and pfizer, moderna, etc would have lost bilions in revenue. See how it works, at least in the US.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, mohlite said:

I doubt there were any approved when HCQ was blocked.

Lets wind this back a little. You made a direct claim...........

 

1 hour ago, mohlite said:

However, having a safe and effective medicine would preclude expedited approval, EUA, (emergency use authorization) for the Covid-19 vaccine. Therefore, for the vaccine promoters, dismissing all safe and effective treatments was essential.

Provide evidence to that false information 

[mohlite]

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Lets wind this back a little. You made a direct claim...........

 

Provide evidence to that false information 

"Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives."

An EUA can only be granted when no adequate, approved, available alternatives exist, and when the known and potential benefits outweigh the potential risks. An EUA also only lasts as long as the public health emergency for which it was declared.  

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained

 

This is information as per FDA in USA, not UK.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, mohlite said:

"Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives."

An EUA can only be granted when no adequate, approved, available alternatives exist, and when the known and potential benefits outweigh the potential risks. An EUA also only lasts as long as the public health emergency for which it was declared.  

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained

 

This is information as per FDA in USA, not UK.

 

 

Treatments and vaccines are two separate entities. 

[xylophone]

On 10/10/2023 at 10:18 PM, rattlesnake said:

No he didn't. He recommended chlorine dioxide and he was right. The lying media said it was bleach and their mindless followers just went with it.

So trump is a doctor?? He is a grifter and has duped his followers............you included, as you recommended this on a post/thread a short while ago

 

A Florida man and his three sons were sentenced to several years in prison for selling more than $1 million worth of a fake COVID-19 "miracle" cure which they called "Miracle Mineral Solution" and claimed it cured a range of diseases, including COVID-19, HIV/AIDS, Alzheimer's disease, and leukaemia, among other diseases.

 

The solution that they were selling contained sodium chlorite and water, which becomes chlorine dioxide after being ingested, the Times reported.

 

All four men were found guilty by a jury in July after choosing to represent themselves in court. The sentencing came after a 3-year-long case that began in 2020 at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic. The solution that they were selling contained sodium chlorite and water, which becomes chlorine dioxide after being ingested, the Times reported.

[rattlesnake]

8 hours ago, LosLobo said:

Bleach is the generic name for any chemical product that is used industrially or domestically to remove colour (whitening) from fabric or fiber or to clean or to remove stains in a process called bleaching. 

 

Bleach - Wikipedia

Yes, and the issue here is how so many people just went with the claim that "Trump recommended injecting bleach" when he in fact didn't. Biden and the media made it up and an inordinate number of people (interestingly, those who claim to be smart and fact-oriented) just mindlessly repeated it.

 

What Trump said:

"Then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.”

 

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/us-election-town-halls-10-15-20/h_81d38f559abc209eba0269346ab2e01a

 

How that became "Trump recommended injecting bleach and Lysol" is a symptom of the times (and also indicates that lots of the self-labelled "smart" people may be oversetimating themselves somewhat).